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Old 08-29-2012, 02:44 PM   #68656
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That's odd, I have no turn signals on the bike, and the indicator doesn't flash at all. The funny thing is, that after giving hand signals, I still feel the need to push the cancel button after completing a turn.
I wish I could remember to push that button. I'm headed to VA & NC on a trip. Neither state requires signals, but if they are there, I think they have to work.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:22 PM   #68657
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I've got a 2006 DR650 that's pretty much bone stock, 17k on the odometer. The last couple rides, when I hit shallow water crossings (6" or less) at a high speed, the bike stumbles badly for a moment, then usually catches and goes, but for quite a while after that, like 20-30 minutes, anything up to 3/4 throttle is fine, but anything over that and it will die like you hit the kill switch until you let back off the throttle. Air box is unmodified and has snorkel. It never did this before and it's not only annoying, it's dangerous as riding buddies have about run over me at times. Ideas? Anyone? Maybe just new plug wires? Plugs are fairly new.
Start the bike up in the dark and see if there is a light show at the spark plug area .I think there are resistors in the spark plug cap.Someone may chime and say for sure.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:27 PM   #68658
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I wish I could remember to push that button. I'm headed to VA & NC on a trip. Neither state requires signals, but if they are there, I think they have to work.
Sounds like you have your easy fix then. I spent all of about 20 minutes removing mine for a track day, and never bothered putting them back on. The mounts make such good tie down points... Since then, the DR hasn't spent much time outside of TN and NC, but I have plenty of friends in VA without signals too.

Is it possible that you have an electronic flasher module, like those designed to operate LEDs at a normal flash rate?
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:28 PM   #68659
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Here's a riddle: Why don't I have any turn-sigs, but the indicator still flashes? 3 outta 4 bulbs good, but I can't seem to locate any bulbs for the little aftermarket signals I have.
Pic's of the turn signals,what's the # on the bulb?It's just the way the circuit is set up?Most indicator's flash faster went a bulb is out,don't know about MC but most auto's are like.
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Old 08-29-2012, 03:42 PM   #68660
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I'd start with plug wires as that's pretty simple and usually a culprit when water cuts out the bike. I noticed on a 98 model I recently picked up that one of the plug wires is badly cracked probably just from age, so I've got them on the list to replace. BTW, you might duplicate with a garden hose on spraying on the bike while its running and see if you can confirm its the plug wire(s) that is faulty.

I'm not sure if its the same on the DR, but I know on other Suzuki's like the SV650, there was an arrow on the wire to show what direction that plug wire was supposed to attach to keep water out.

Just looking... Are the plug wires even removable from the coils? Do they screw in like the plug caps?

The bike doesn't do this in the rain.. just when I hit a puddle pretty fast. It's forcing water into something it seems and takes a long time to dry out afterwards.
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Old 08-29-2012, 04:13 PM   #68661
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Just picked up some small LED's to mount on the front faring. Man, I got to stop...can't stop...can't stop...
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Old 08-29-2012, 04:13 PM   #68662
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Wanna drop weight...get rid of that midget on you bike. Yes, I know they are entertaining but you can't take them everywhere you go!
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:33 PM   #68663
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Pro Cycle Top End Performance Kit ?

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Pro Cycle Top End Performance Kit ?
Is anyone running the Pro Cycle high compression piston and stage 2 cam? If so, how do you like it? I'm considering it for more power at highway speeds, staying with stock carb and muffler. Thanks for info. L D

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I would think that those mods won't do a lot with the stock carb and pipe. Fuel has to get in and burnt gasses need to leave. Especially at highway speeds - there is a lot going through the engine under that load and the stock set up restricts the engine as it is.

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The stock carb can handle it just fine if the airbox is opened up and carb is jetted to suit. By retaining the stock exhaust it will still get a boost but it will not let the engine mods work to their full potential.

I have been riding and working on bikes for a full 60 years... :-)

As Procycle replied: The stock carb is fine.

I say, take a look at dyno charts and about the most to be gained over the stock exhaust is a good deal more noise and 2 hp. I don't want the noise.... Carb mods only increase response mostly, I don't need that, the CV carb is okay for my use on the highway or gravel roads.

The high compression piston and stage 2 cam will put the power increase where I want it.

My original query was if anyone was running the Top End Performance kit, thanks, but don't need opinions on needing to do something else first. The higher compresion and stage 2 cam should add more horsepower than a carb and pipe upgrade.... I would just like to hear from someone using it...

So, is anyone actually running the Top End Performance kit that can comment on how they like it?

Thanks, L D
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:48 PM   #68664
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Finalized a deal to buy Sirwrexalot's (is the name a bad sign lol) '05 DR650. Awesome bike with most of the farkles already on it (who am I kidding, I'm already buying farkles). Driving from dallas to Memphis and back Friday to make it back in time for a ride already scheduled for Saturday. This joins my '09 DL1000 in the stable and I'm stoked!! Excited to have something so dirt capable, just need to redo the suspension and I'm all set. Any other riders built like a grizzly bear? 325lbs here and looking at where to get my suspension parts from. Thanks in advance guys!
I would order Race Tech front springs, emulators and a Race Tech rear shock assy with spring. On their website, you can put in your weight and riding style for your bike and it will suggest a spring rate front and rear. It'll be around $800 - $1000 (front and rear) but will address all of your suspension needs.
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Old 08-29-2012, 05:57 PM   #68665
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thinairflyer,

I had a cousin that knew a guy that worked in a Honda shop, but he said the Suzuki isn't that different from a bike one of his customers had and the guy that rode with him had got a big gain from swapping out his doohickey or something like that, but he thought tires would have made a bigger difference. Hope that helps.
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Old 08-29-2012, 06:32 PM   #68666
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Pro Cycle Top End Performance Kit ?
Is anyone running the Pro Cycle high compression piston and stage 2 cam? If so, how do you like it? I'm considering it for more power at highway speeds, staying with stock carb and muffler. Thanks for info. L D

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I would think that those mods won't do a lot with the stock carb and pipe. Fuel has to get in and burnt gasses need to leave. Especially at highway speeds - there is a lot going through the engine under that load and the stock set up restricts the engine as it is.

Procycle replied:
The stock carb can handle it just fine if the airbox is opened up and carb is jetted to suit. By retaining the stock exhaust it will still get a boost but it will not let the engine mods work to their full potential.

I have been riding and working on bikes for a full 60 years... :-)

As Procycle replied: The stock carb is fine.

I say, take a look at dyno charts and about the most to be gained over the stock exhaust is a good deal more noise and 2 hp. I don't want the noise.... Carb mods only increase response mostly, I don't need that, the CV carb is okay for my use on the highway or gravel roads.

The high compression piston and stage 2 cam will put the power increase where I want it.

My original query was if anyone was running the Top End Performance kit, thanks, but don't need opinions on needing to do something else first. The higher compresion and stage 2 cam should add more horsepower than a carb and pipe upgrade.... I would just like to hear from someone using it...

So, is anyone actually running the Top End Performance kit that can comment on how they like it?

Thanks, L D
I would lighten up just a wee bit, If you want to get people to offer opinions or their experiences. Pick and choose the ones you want to listen to, but people are only trying to help. Personally I think dirtydeeds point was valid, and procycle more or less agreed with him . They both basically said a stock carb was not a good idea (procycle just elaborated to say you would need to open the air box and rejet --- that is not stock). I didn't see where anyone suggested swapping carbs.

Anyways hope it works out if you decide to do it and keep us posted.

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Old 08-29-2012, 06:48 PM   #68667
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Wanna drop weight...get rid of that midget on you bike. Yes, I know they are entertaining but you can't take them everywhere you go!
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:11 PM   #68668
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Pro Cycle Top End Performance Kit ?
Is anyone running the Pro Cycle high compression piston and stage 2 cam? If so, how do you like it? I'm considering it for more power at highway speeds, staying with stock carb and muffler. Thanks for info. L D

Originally Posted by dirtydeeds View Post
I would think that those mods won't do a lot with the stock carb and pipe. Fuel has to get in and burnt gasses need to leave. Especially at highway speeds - there is a lot going through the engine under that load and the stock set up restricts the engine as it is.

Procycle replied:
The stock carb can handle it just fine if the airbox is opened up and carb is jetted to suit. By retaining the stock exhaust it will still get a boost but it will not let the engine mods work to their full potential.

I have been riding and working on bikes for a full 60 years... :-)

As Procycle replied: The stock carb is fine.

I say, take a look at dyno charts and about the most to be gained over the stock exhaust is a good deal more noise and 2 hp. I don't want the noise.... Carb mods only increase response mostly, I don't need that, the CV carb is okay for my use on the highway or gravel roads.

The high compression piston and stage 2 cam will put the power increase where I want it.

My original query was if anyone was running the Top End Performance kit, thanks, but don't need opinions on needing to do something else first. The higher compresion and stage 2 cam should add more horsepower than a carb and pipe upgrade.... I would just like to hear from someone using it...

So, is anyone actually running the Top End Performance kit that can comment on how they like it?

Thanks, L D

I had the hi-comp piston only in my first DR and it made a very nice improvement with the stock re-jetted carb and stock exhaust. It pulled everything with more authority was a bit smoother due to the lighter piston.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:58 PM   #68669
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I would think that those mods won't do a lot with the stock carb and pipe. Fuel has to get in and burnt gasses need to leave. Especially at highway speeds - there is a lot going through the engine under that load and the stock set up restricts the engine as it is.
I would think so too, especially if he's riding at any kind of altitude. He's going to want to be able to flow more air. Even here at sea-level, I noticed a difference with opening the airbox and exhaust to flow better, especially at higher RPMs.

Open the airbox (cut open or door removal), find an exhaust that flows well without sounding obnoxious, and tune the carb (stock or other). The choked-off stock engine will thank you. THEN go tearing into the engine to replace a piston and/or cam.

You may get better performance than stock with just the piston and cam, but it's not going to be optimal without being able to flow more fuel and air in and out.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:03 PM   #68670
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I would recommend suspension changes before messing with the piston. Probably LED lights too.

Hope to see you out on the trail. I've done the rest of the mods and the piston is next on my list. Let us know how it goes should you proceed.
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