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Old 08-30-2012, 05:07 PM   #68716
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Hello, I'm new. Long time lurker and browser of all the awesome pictures, first time poster.
Could anyone please confirm if the Australian spec DR650 is the same as the US and Euro spec. In Australia there is what they call a LAMS scheme (Learner Approved Motorcycle Scheme) and so some bikes are LAMS approved and some aren't. Some bikes they do two versions of so these bikes must have some sort of restricter in place, usually in the throttle. The DR650 is a LAMS approved bike in Australia but my question is, is this because it's power figures are such that it falls into that bracket, or does it have some sort of restriction in place?

I have a full licence so would prefer to unrestrict it if there is some sort of restriction in place.

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Old 08-30-2012, 05:16 PM   #68717
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The DR650 is a LAMS approved bike in Australia but my question is, is this because it's power figures are such that it falls into that bracket, or does it have some sort of restriction in place?

I have a full licence so would prefer to unrestrict it if there is some sort of restriction in place.

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The DR650 is LAMS approved simply because it is rated at 34 HP stock (worldwide)
You could then open the air box,fit a pipe and pumper carburetor along with a 780 kit for over 50 HP and no one would be the wiser.
The restrictions stock are worldwide and simply things like the air box having a small inlet not things like restricted intake manifolds etc or ECU's like some Japanese market import bikes.
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Old 08-30-2012, 05:50 PM   #68718
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OK, I understand. Thank you. That's cool then.
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Old 08-30-2012, 07:04 PM   #68719
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Doh! Should have looked there first-thanks.
Um, yea. Is there any where else? :
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Old 08-31-2012, 12:37 AM   #68720
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Hello, I'm new. Long time lurker and browser of all the awesome pictures, first time poster.
Could anyone please confirm if the Australian spec DR650 is the same as the US and Euro spec. In Australia there is what they call a LAMS scheme (Learner Approved Motorcycle Scheme) and so some bikes are LAMS approved and some aren't. Some bikes they do two versions of so these bikes must have some sort of restricter in place, usually in the throttle. The DR650 is a LAMS approved bike in Australia but my question is, is this because it's power figures are such that it falls into that bracket, or does it have some sort of restriction in place?

I have a full licence so would prefer to unrestrict it if there is some sort of restriction in place.


Thanks,

Chill
The LAMS scheme allows bikes that don't exceed 150kw/tonne. At 32 KW on the DR650se, you do the maths.
The only restriction it has in reality is a weld in the header pipe,which many owners grind down, as I have, but which will hardly turn it into a mind blowing wheely machine. And from stock, the carby is on the lean side of life. There is no end of mods one can do to give the bike that involve buying new bits, not removing them from the stock bike, to give more power. Regardless (here in QLD), you get the letters LAM on your rego label to show the coppers you are riding a LAMS approved bike. Unless they carry a dyno with them, I doubt one would get sprung if on a learners.

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Old 08-31-2012, 01:10 AM   #68721
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Um, yea. Is there any where else? :
let's not forget all the DR groundwork Jesse has done http://www.kientech.com/
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Old 08-31-2012, 03:33 AM   #68722
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let's not forget all the DR groundwork Jesse has done http://www.kientech.com/
I with you on that , Jesse has done alot for the DR community!!!
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:56 AM   #68723
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Um, yea. Is there any where else? :

I tried finding a 13T front sprocket for a 520 conversion but it appears that none exists...is this true
I think ProCycle has one. I bought a Sunstar 31713. It fits fine, but you have to use the circlip that Jesse sells or one like it.

The sprocket, if I recall is one that fits a 1979-80 Kaw KLX 250 so maybe a long time Kaw dealer could have one still a OEM on the shelf that you could bargain the price down an save shipping.

you can even find 12 & 11 tooth sprockets for these bikes, Like the old KX500's on ebay

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SUNSTAR 31713 FRONT SPROCKET KDX400 79-80 / KX-KDX420 80-81 / KX500 83-86
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:20 AM   #68724
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DR's are heavy
I was out playing last night and found some rocky, gnarly singletrack and decided to ride my DR down it. It was steep and knowing momentum is key I carried some speed. Well it got a bit out of shape and I couldn't bring it back and plop we went. Me over the bars and it slamming to earth. Broke the mount off of my hand guard and bent the shifter into the cover. Gouged the cover but it didnt leak. Picked the big pig up and had to decide if I wanted to ride up, or ride down not knowing where I was going. I chose the up route and decided that exploring unknown rocky trails riding solo on a DR is not for me. I will use my two-smoke for that.
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Old 08-31-2012, 07:26 AM   #68725
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DR's are heavy
I was out playing last night and found some rocky, gnarly singletrack and decided to ride my DR down it. It was steep and knowing momentum is key I carried some speed. Well it got a bit out of shape and I couldn't bring it back and plop we went. Me over the bars and it slamming to earth. Broke the mount off of my hand guard and bent the shifter into the cover. Gouged the cover but it didnt leak. Picked the big pig up and had to decide if I wanted to ride up, or ride down not knowing where I was going. I chose the up route and decided that exploring unknown rocky trails riding solo on a DR is not for me. I will use my two-smoke for that.
I went down a hydro line trail yesterday and managed not to fall though there were some steep up and down sections.






I didn't use momentum on my downhills, though. I used the rear brake and pussyfooted down since I was also on my own.
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:06 AM   #68726
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anyone still accumulating parts for a quick change rear gear and rubber setup:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-Suzuki-...d12389&vxp=mtr

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I've finally got a complete spare rear wheel and second drive hub for my ADV and singletrack setups.
someone snatched it up - anyone here?
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Old 08-31-2012, 08:08 AM   #68727
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DR's are heavy
I was out playing last night and found some rocky, gnarly singletrack and decided to ride my DR down it. It was steep and knowing momentum is key I carried some speed. Well it got a bit out of shape and I couldn't bring it back and plop we went. Me over the bars and it slamming to earth. Broke the mount off of my hand guard and bent the shifter into the cover. Gouged the cover but it didnt leak. Picked the big pig up and had to decide if I wanted to ride up, or ride down not knowing where I was going. I chose the up route and decided that exploring unknown rocky trails riding solo on a DR is not for me. I will use my two-smoke for that.

This sort of thing is how I ended up with a KLX250S for that kind of riding. My DR rarely ventures off anything more "extreme" than a gentle two-track trail now. :)

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Old 08-31-2012, 09:00 AM   #68728
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someone snatched it up - anyone here?
at the price, it was worth it for the sprocket or cushions alone. to get both with a hub was a no brainer. I have all that already,so I passed. the same guy is parting out a DR650 so there's a lot of other stuff available for those looking.
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Old 08-31-2012, 09:44 AM   #68729
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DR's are heavy
..... and bent the shifter into the cover. Gouged the cover but it didnt leak.
Rich - as I'm sure you're aware, there's case protection available for those inevitable drops. I'm not on the home computer so I don't have the links to post but PC has a set and the maker of the AMP oil filter cover has some. They've saved me from an oil leak more than once.
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Old 08-31-2012, 11:00 AM   #68730
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Anyone use these racks yet? Just checking to see if anyone has anything bad to say about them. I am looking start adding parts to my 2012 and these look decent.



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