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Old 09-19-2012, 10:38 PM   #69271
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Is there some special knack to getting the bike up on a stand? I've got a stand like the one below but in the low position it is still too tall to slide under the sump. It's a good inch or two too high, bike is standard, not lowered or anything. The stand has a rubber top to it which makes sliding the bike on from the side very difficult. Is there a knack to this or do I just need to man up and wrestle beast onto it or am I missing something?
The only thing you are missing is more ground clearance. Those stands are made for motocross bikes which have several inches more clearance between the frame and the ground. About the only way to make that stand work for the DR would be to shorten it enough to easily slide under the bike.
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Old 09-19-2012, 10:58 PM   #69272
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The only thing you are missing is more ground clearance. Those stands are made for motocross bikes which have several inches more clearance between the frame and the ground. About the only way to make that stand work for the DR would be to shorten it enough to easily slide under the bike.
OK, thanks. Yes, I think I'm going to have to make some sort of ramp to back up and then remove after it's on the stand. Thinking about this now I'm wondering if I angle the stand at 45 degrees towards the engine I can push the bike forward onto it. Thanks.
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Old 09-19-2012, 11:34 PM   #69273
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Is there some special knack to getting the bike up on a stand? I've got a stand like the one below but in the low position it is still too tall to slide under the sump. It's a good inch or two too high, bike is standard, not lowered or anything. The stand has a rubber top to it which makes sliding the bike on from the side very difficult. Is there a knack to this or do I just need to man up and wrestle beast onto it or am I missing something?
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Push the bike up onto two pieces of wood - one under the front tire and one under the rear tire. Use whatever size you need to get the bike high enough to slide that stand under!
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:54 AM   #69274
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Shock Oil?

I'm about to attempt to change the oil in my shock. It feels like I'm riding a pogo stick it bounces so bad. Anyone who has some advise on this please chime in.
I'm 240lbs without gear, and I do have a heavier spring on it. Should I consider putting a heavier weight oil in, or would stay with the stock oil? I'm not really sure of the oil weight. I'm not going to do a re-valve job or anything, but is there anything that I should replace while I'm in there, ie, a seal or something? I am going to replace the bumper.
Bike is a little over 2.5 yrs old, 35K miles.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:02 AM   #69275
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I'm about to attempt to change the oil in my shock. It feels like I'm riding a pogo stick it bounces so bad. Anyone who has some advise on this please chime in.
I'm 240lbs without gear, and I do have a heavier spring on it. Should I consider putting a heavier weight oil in, or would stay with the stock oil? I'm not really sure of the oil weight. I'm not going to do a re-valve job or anything, but is there anything that I should replace while I'm in there, ie, a seal or something? I am going to replace the bumper.
Bike is a little over 2.5 yrs old, 35K miles.
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I put Silkolene RSF 7.5wt shock fluid in mine when I put an 8kg/mm spring on, very happy with the results.
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Old 09-20-2012, 03:17 AM   #69276
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I'm about to attempt to change the oil in my shock. It feels like I'm riding a pogo stick it bounces so bad. Anyone who has some advise on this please chime in.
I'm 240lbs without gear, and I do have a heavier spring on it. Should I consider putting a heavier weight oil in, or would stay with the stock oil? I'm not really sure of the oil weight. I'm not going to do a re-valve job or anything, but is there anything that I should replace while I'm in there, ie, a seal or something? I am going to replace the bumper.
Bike is a little over 2.5 yrs old, 35K miles.
Thanks!
There's lots of good information here that might help you on the shock rebuild.


http://drriders.com/topic2041.html
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:06 AM   #69277
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Thanks

Thanks all,
I'm not the most mechanical person, so any information that I can get to pull from is appreciated.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:59 AM   #69278
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Full revalve write up but it may help. I didn't replace my seal head (7000 miles on bike) and haven't had any leaks at all.


http://www.procycle.us/info/guides/d...ock-build.html

PC has a nice write up with a little more sanitary pics. They were a great deal of help on the phone when I was deciding the direction I wanted to go.
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:44 AM   #69279
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Pig won't idle

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I've put my carb back together after giving a thorough clean, changed all the o-rings and replaced the idle jet with a stocker (42.5). Stock needle not worn and on 3rd clip (stock setting I believe). Fuel screw turned 2 1/4 turns. No airbox mods. As far as I can tell it's as Suzuki wanted it. Managed to get her fired up with some coaxing but it won't idle. Revs just drop and putt-putt-ptuh . If I hold the throttle the tiniest bit it'll keep going. It won't start with the choke on at all and if I put it on after starting it makes no difference to revs.

But!!! If I cover 3/4 of the snorkel with my hand it will idle.

I'm not a mechanic but to me this sounds like it's running too lean? (too much air?). I can raise the needle and keep turning the mixture screw but to me from what i've read this setup 'should' run and i'm wondering whether there's something else wrong.

There's no fuel coming out the overflow (as it has in the past) and if I turn the drain screw fuel comes out so the float bowl appears to be filling and shutting off correctly. The rubber tipped float needle looked fine and was thoroughly cleaned. If the float wasn't set correctly not allowing enough fuel in i'd guess that the problem would be more stop-start than affecting idle.

Am I looking at the problem wrong?
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Old 09-20-2012, 05:53 AM   #69280
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Is there some special knack to getting the bike up on a stand? I've got a stand like the one below but in the low position it is still too tall to slide under the sump. It's a good inch or two too high, bike is standard, not lowered or anything. The stand has a rubber top to it which makes sliding the bike on from the side very difficult. Is there a knack to this or do I just need to man up and wrestle beast onto it or am I missing something?



Would rolling the front wheel onto a piece of 2xXX lumber get you high enough? Might need a piece for each end and the side stand. Being intended for a MX bike, is that thing rated to lift a DR? Wouldn't be much fun to get it up there and end up wearing it for a hat.


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Old 09-20-2012, 06:46 AM   #69281
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Is there some special knack to getting the bike up on a stand? I've got a stand like the one below but in the low position it is still too tall to slide under the sump. It's a good inch or two too high, bike is standard, not lowered or anything. The stand has a rubber top to it which makes sliding the bike on from the side very difficult. Is there a knack to this or do I just need to man up and wrestle beast onto it or am I missing something?

I have one like that and it's not going to last very long if used to pick up the DR650. It's just barely adequate for the G450X we have.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:48 AM   #69282
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I have one like that and it's not going to last very long if used to pick up the DR650. It's just barely adequate for the G450X we have.
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Also, those type of stands have the leverage ratios designed for lifting a 230 pound bike. You will probably find that even if you can get the stand under the bike it will take 2 people standing on the pedal to get it in the air.
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Old 09-20-2012, 07:55 AM   #69283
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Thanks for those numbers! That definitely helps.

Rather than spend that at a dealer, if you're really right down in Corvalis (I'm in Salem), come up one weekend soon and we can just do it at my place. I have all the tools, including a welder to shorten the side stand.

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Old 09-20-2012, 08:11 AM   #69284
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Push the bike up onto two pieces of wood - one under the front tire and one under the rear tire. Use whatever size you need to get the bike high enough to slide that stand under!
Reminds me of the farmer who got a new donkey and when he tried to get him thru the stable door the donkey's ears hit the sill causing him to recoil. When he told the neighbor, that guy said to dig a few inches into the door's stoop to create some clearance. The farmer laughed at him, " you stupid shit, his legs aint to long, his ears are too tall ".
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:33 AM   #69285
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Hi guys.

I've put my carb back together after giving a thorough clean, changed all the o-rings and replaced the idle jet with a stocker (42.5). Stock needle not worn and on 3rd clip (stock setting I believe). Fuel screw turned 2 1/4 turns. No airbox mods. As far as I can tell it's as Suzuki wanted it. Managed to get her fired up with some coaxing but it won't idle. Revs just drop and putt-putt-ptuh . If I hold the throttle the tiniest bit it'll keep going. It won't start with the choke on at all and if I put it on after starting it makes no difference to revs.

But!!! If I cover 3/4 of the snorkel with my hand it will idle.

I'm not a mechanic but to me this sounds like it's running too lean? (too much air?). I can raise the needle and keep turning the mixture screw but to me from what i've read this setup 'should' run and i'm wondering whether there's something else wrong.

There's no fuel coming out the overflow (as it has in the past) and if I turn the drain screw fuel comes out so the float bowl appears to be filling and shutting off correctly. The rubber tipped float needle looked fine and was thoroughly cleaned. If the float wasn't set correctly not allowing enough fuel in i'd guess that the problem would be more stop-start than affecting idle.

Am I looking at the problem wrong?
Have you checked for vacuum leaks? If you just had the carb off its a possibility. It's hard to do the WD-40 spray test since the bike is not holding idle. So, I'd start by making sure you have a good seal on the boots and that they are tightened down. Also, check to see that the choke cable is set properly and that the black, plastic housing is screwed on correctly.

Perhaps one of the carb guru inmates can give you better direction than I, but just some food for thought.
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