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Old 09-21-2012, 08:43 AM   #69331
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If need be, you can always pick up one of those Stearns ATV seat pads at the first Walmart you come to.
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:55 AM   #69332
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I've read that about the stock seat in countless places. Luckily the one I bought has a custom seat already installed. According to the previous owner it's remarkably comfortable. Lets just hope his ass isn't made of steal because the stock seat on my GSF400 makes my ass numb after a good 3 hours of riding. It wouldn't be a pretty site to be doing the "trade-off" ass cheek maneuver for 20+ hours.
I wish my stocker made my ass numb. Nah, it's more along the lines of a pain that continues on for a few days after putting the bike away.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:41 AM   #69333
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i SHOULD know this but I am not confident: I'm thinking of buying a late model, sell the older one [sshhhhhh... don't tell 'er]. I recall that at some point, like maybe 2009, the third gear part was changed, and then we've had several discussions about the subtle change to the NSU fasteners, but in the States what year wuz that ??? Bottom line, what model year incorporated the last useful change?
From memory - 2006 on the 3rd gear part number change. NSU's went to a hex head (Allen Head) screw but still have been found loose.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:47 AM   #69334
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From memory - 2006 on the 3rd gear part number change.
Yes, a new part number but there's no evidence of any update or improvement in the gear.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:02 PM   #69335
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Laugh

hmmm... so roll the dice, eh
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:06 PM   #69336
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Except put any weight on the XR and the subframe fails, and the 690, bad vibrations, and anyone like lots of and hard maintance? Get a DR and put a 790 kit it, it will blow the rest away.
My DR subframe failed on my last trip. I'd say that makes em comparable.

As for the 690, you have no clue what you're talking about.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:14 PM   #69337
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The big DR push-starts easily enough.
you must be joking
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:19 PM   #69338
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I'm about to attempt to change the oil in my shock. It feels like I'm riding a pogo stick it bounces so bad. Anyone who has some advise on this please chime in.
I'm 240lbs without gear, and I do have a heavier spring on it. Should I consider putting a heavier weight oil in, or would stay with the stock oil? I'm not really sure of the oil weight. I'm not going to do a re-valve job or anything, but is there anything that I should replace while I'm in there, ie, a seal or something? I am going to replace the bumper.
Bike is a little over 2.5 yrs old, 35K miles.
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as others alluded to yesterday - my opinion is not to waste your time with an oil change. Get the valve stack changed and then reassemble with clean oil. Whether you go through procycle or some local guy - just write the check and thank me later.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:21 PM   #69339
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i SHOULD know this but I am not confident: I'm thinking of buying a late model, sell the older one [sshhhhhh... don't tell 'er]. I recall that at some point, like maybe 2009, the third gear part was changed, and then we've had several discussions about the subtle change to the NSU fasteners, but in the States what year wuz that ??? Bottom line, what model year incorporated the last useful change?
Those are good questions. I believe the 3rd gear change came in 2006 ..?? not sure. The NSU bolt changes seemed to start showing up in 2010 or 2011, but don't quote me on that either.

Suzuki continue to make subtle changes without notification or documentation. This statement came from "the horses mouth" at American Suzuki in Brea, CA in 2006. Mechanics tend to discover changes once various affected assemblies have been torn into. Several have noted such events here.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:25 PM   #69340
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My DR subframe failed on my last trip. I'd say that makes em comparable.

As for the 690, you have no clue what you're talking about.
Do you have any details on the sub frame failure? Pics? How did it happen?
How much weight did you have on there? Terrain?

Funny ... seems your stock answer for anyone leveling criticism at KTM is
" ... you have no clue what you're talking about."
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:33 PM   #69341
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you must be joking
Nope. I killed my battery and gave the big blue pig a shove. It fired right up, in 1st, on wet pavement.

It'd be even easier with another bike/vehicle around. Get a pull/push.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:53 PM   #69342
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as others alluded to yesterday - my opinion is not to waste your time with an oil change. Get the valve stack changed and then reassemble with clean oil. Whether you go through procycle or some local guy - just write the check and thank me later.
In my opinion (having done it recently) an oil change isn't necessarily a waste of time. For my bike, weight, riding style and terrain, the spring/oil change is a worthwhile and cheap improvement over stock, and will do me for a while at least.

A litre of shock oil is $14. Regas will be about $20.

So at $34 for a quick and easy oil change I'd suggest give it a go and see how it works.

I guess it's up to how much the OP wants to spend. If you've got another $160 laying about then no doubt a gold valve or similar is going to be a better solution. Or a full shock rebuild with adjustable rebound even better. Or an aftermarket shock maybe better again. Or put the DR engine in a KTM chassis...
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:02 PM   #69343
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Those are good questions. I believe the 3rd gear change came in 2006 ..?? not sure. The NSU bolt changes seemed to start showing up in 2010 or 2011, but don't quote me on that either.

Suzuki continue to make subtle changes without notification or documentation. This statement came from "the horses mouth" at American Suzuki in Brea, CA in 2006. Mechanics tend to discover changes once various affected assemblies have been torn into. Several have noted such events here.
There are a few 2010/11 bikes in the 3rd gear failure list, some very low km, so the part number change for the gear is irrelevant. I'm undecided on whether I want to invest in the Procycle/Nova 3rd gear set but if that is the solution to the 3rd gear problems (yet to be proven but looks promising) that would make the DR truly as bulletproof as everyone says they are.

My 2010 had allen head bolts holding the NSU on (which is reportedly the "upgrade") but one of them was barely tight, so this fix is also irrelevant - loctite is still required.
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Old 09-21-2012, 03:54 PM   #69344
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Do you have any details on the sub frame failure? Pics? How did it happen?
How much weight did you have on there? Terrain?

Funny ... seems your stock answer for anyone leveling criticism at KTM is
" ... you have no clue what you're talking about."
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I would also like to know how the steel subframe of Albie's DR failed. I know of Jammin Jay's failures, but we all know the punishment his subframe has endured in overloading, crashes, and mileage. Even Jay admits to the extreme levels of service in his multi-year trip.

I cannot think of another bike's subframe than can do real off-road and can withstand the abuse that the DR absorbs and recover within a reasonable budget. The DR's subframe can be welded by anybody with a torch or a buzzbox if it fails. Jay proved this.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:00 PM   #69345
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My 2010 had allen head bolts holding the NSU on (which is reportedly the "upgrade") but one of them was barely tight, so this fix is also irrelevant - loctite is still required.
Mine are Loctited red AND safety-wired. This engine is going to the grave with it's NSU cemented in place, working or not. One less degree of freedom to deal with.
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