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Old 09-22-2012, 09:01 PM   #69391
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+1 Extremely great advice. I just returned from two years in Central America, Have made several moto trips there. Finally I desided on soft side and hard top box. I use Neson Riggs CL850 sides and a Bestem top box. Home fabricated side bag mounts. Worked great for the last two year travels in Central America. Headed back to Mexico in January and will be using same soft side bags and hard lockable top box. Carrying tank bag is also a great idea. I do that also.

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Oh no you didn't!! ... This, like oil, is one of the most debated threads on ADVRider. There is absolutely no definite answer. You have to make a personal choice about how much you trust your fellow man vs how ready are your to suffer a broken leg off road. Factor in the additional weight of hard luggage off road vs the ability of soft luggage to absorb low speed damage. Then consider how easy it is to break into either form of luggage: soft luggage takes 5+ seconds, while hard luggage takes 10+ seconds. I feel better about dealing with aduanas at a border with locked hard luggage, but that's about 1% of the total trip. For the rest of the trip you want soft luggage for weight and traffic splitting considerations. Yet soft luggage will always have you looking over your back....

Perhaps the best solution is both. A lockable hard topbox that contains your valuables and soft luggage that contains your dirty laundry. The really irreplaceable stuff goes in a removable tank bag that goes with you though the border crossings....

I'm leaving for SA in about a month. I have a full set of both. I'm still in limbo. I'll likely flip a coin and go with it the week before I leave. Ymmv.

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Old 09-22-2012, 09:05 PM   #69392
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Glad to see you still posting on the DR thread, after your epic 'walk'. Hopin' I never have to do something similar.

So you remember that, so do I. I spent 9 days at a motel, but, had to cancel my plans to ride the Divide Trail. I just rode pavement back to Seattle. The ankle was broken and took about 3 months to heal. I think the 17 mile walk had something to do with the long recovery. I did it on Augest 3rd, 2011, returned to the Philippines in September 2011. The DR 650 is at my son's house in Seattle.

I would like to ship the DR 650 to the Philippines, which is not too easy to do. I have a Honda XR 200 here, but, miss the DR. I am 72 years old and know it is just a matter of time until the my riding days are over. But, playing in Manila traffic on a motorcycle gets the juices flowing.
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Old 09-22-2012, 09:23 PM   #69393
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Ditto Paul. Enjoyed our lunch before you left. I still wince when I think about that hike out.
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Old 09-22-2012, 09:52 PM   #69394
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The armored mesh you refer to-- as a backpacker, I'd occasionally run into some Japanese fellows who had a sort of expanding mesh netting that would fit around their rucksacks. Is this the armored mesh you are speaking of? If I remember correctly, one guy was robbed in Ethiopia because the wire was compromised with some simple small metal snips. I suppose every bit is a deterrent, but as somebody who loves his Wolfman luggage, security (or the lack thereof) has always been on my mind for a long haul(or when parked anywhere for that matter). Ah, and if you have a link I'd appreciate it! Cheers!
www.pacsafe.com

Even hard luggage won't stop a determined thief though. If they really want it, they'll just take the whole bike somewhere that they can work on it for HOURS.

Use an alarm and a disc-lock with cable to something solid. Still...Don't leave anything valuable when parked. I don't even leave valuables in a car.
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Old 09-22-2012, 09:59 PM   #69395
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Glad to see you still posting on the DR thread, after your epic 'walk'. Hopin' I never have to do something similar.

So you remember that,
Oh heck yes I remember that!!
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........so do I.
I'm sure you do. Those are the ones we remember.

Me riding alone in the Canyonlands, with your experience haunting me. I won't go back until I have a lighter bike.



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I spent 9 days at a motel, but, had to cancel my plans to ride the Divide Trail. I just rode pavement back to Seattle. The ankle was broken and took about 3 months to heal. I think the 17 mile walk had something to do with the long recovery. I did it on Augest 3rd, 2011, returned to the Philippines in September 2011. The DR 650 is at my son's house in Seattle.

I would like to ship the DR 650 to the Philippines, which is not too easy to do. I have a Honda XR 200 here, but, miss the DR.
I'm surprised by the import regulations that other countries have, everything seems so easy here in the US.
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I am 72 years old and know it is just a matter of time until the my riding days are over.
I'm 65 today. How inna hell did that happen?!?
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But, playing in Manila traffic on a motorcycle gets the juices flowing.
I'll take your word for that; no need to press my luck.



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Ditto Paul. Enjoyed our lunch before you left. I still wince when I think about that hike out.
You got to have lunch with a real tough ole guy, sorta like Malcom Smith. Very cool.
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:41 PM   #69396
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Two-up? On a DR? With gear? I am seriously impressed. Good on ya both.

Thanks for visiting our peninsula.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:15 AM   #69397
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So, let me get this straight. Your problem is "My bike won't idle!"
Your solution is "I'm going to futz around with everything EXCEPT the IDLE adjustment screw!"
You, sir, are banned from motorcycles!!
Mate i've already futzed with the idle/throttle stop screw.
That photo show's exactly how mine is now. There's an outer shaft with a lock nut and a screw which drives a pin up through the guts for minor adjustments. That photo shows there's no more room to screw the pin up. The spring beneath it is coiled up tight as a rats sphincter. Pin sticks out maybe 5mm, just like mine. This still doesn't raise the revs high enough to prevent stalling. I'm doing this by ear but can tell the regular idle speed is not enough to keep her ticking over. It'll stumble and die.

Next would be to undo the locknut & screw the outer shaft up further. Seeing as it idled fine before & now i've screwed it as screweded as it can be, i'm moving onto the next obvious thing being it's more likely something i've done or overlooked inside the carb.

But I do appreciate the suggestion.
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Old 09-23-2012, 03:10 AM   #69398
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I'm 65 today. How inna hell did that happen?!?
A day late, but Happy Birthday!

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Old 09-23-2012, 06:21 AM   #69399
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'Soft' Bags...

[QUOTE=thumpididump;19657320]Eeek! 350 ??? Jibeezus! That's some pretty spendy soft panniers. Nearly $600 USD.

That's what I thought also, until I read what goes into the making of the bags. Go back and have another look. You couldn't put a hole in these bags with a .45. Seriously.
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Old 09-23-2012, 08:06 AM   #69400
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Took my DR on a long road trip. Skyline Drive and Blue Ridge Parkway, with the Tail of the Dragon, Cherohala Skyway and VA 16 (Back of the Dragon) thrown in for good measure. 1485 miles in 6 days. I had the Stock Trailwings on and they are pretty good street tires. Went back to the 15 tooth C/S sprocket and had a new Seat Concepts 1" taller seat to keep my butt from dying. Had a great time with several motorcycling family members.

The bike did fine, but I learned that street riding isn't for me. Back to knobbies and a 14 tooth sprocket.

Here's a pic from the BRP:

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Old 09-23-2012, 10:28 AM   #69401
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that was my luggage solution. bolted a 1520 pelican case through to the existing 4 bolts on my ebay bbq rack. i can unbolt it, remove it and put those bolts back into the rack in 5 minutes and then have just a rear rack for a soft duffel. the pelican sits inside of the width of the bbq rack and thus if i dump, the bbq rack only takes the hit on the side. a large man rack rear rack with a givi mount would also do the same.

i use small locks on my pelican and thus have security. unless i'm going for an all off-road tour, i leave the pelican attached. i then use a soft Giant Loop Coyote bag sitting on the rear of my seat. completely soft on the sides if i dump it and comes fully off the bike for day rides. no additional side rack & weight left on the bike when not in use. rock solid when mounted.

lighter and secure items in the pelicans. heavy items down low in the giant loop w/ lighter clothes, sleeping pad and pillow up top. 2 man tent strapped to the top.

i use the same modular approach w/ Madstad windshield system http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.1921/.f
i have the screen adjusted great for all day & touring wind comfort. with 4 bolts (changing over to tool-less thumb screws) i can remove the robo-brackets and shield (just the turbo city bike racks left on - weight very little and not in the way at all) and go into off-road riding mode.

in 1/2hr my DR can go from full-on street/adv touring bike to no shield, no luggage, no pelican case off-road riding mode. it's still too heavy to be a true dirtbike, but i can do 90% of off-road riding and 100% street riding/touring riding.

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Perhaps the best solution is both. A lockable hard topbox that contains your valuables and soft luggage that contains your dirty laundry. The really irreplaceable stuff goes in a removable tank bag that goes with you though the border crossings....

I'm leaving for SA in about a month. I have a full set of both. I'm still in limbo. I'll likely flip a coin and go with it the week before I leave. Ymmv.

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Old 09-23-2012, 10:44 AM   #69402
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i was riding in Mexico for a year.
i used this http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/voltage-valet/
sitting on top of my tank bag locked to it. it flashes a redlight and barks very loud if the bike is moved at all. it's notice me yellow and screams don't touch or i'll go off. had 1 guy start messing with my bike, it went off and he ran away. i saw all this happen when i was sitting in the square and my bike was still visible and parked. went off once when it was parked at night but no visual on the situation. http://www.amazon.com/Voltage-Valet-.../dp/B004ALISBI it's not waterproof however and got wet once and died shortly after. at that price i just got another.

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+1 Extremely great advice. I just returned from two years in Central America, Have made several moto trips there. Finally I desided on soft side and hard top box. I use Neson Riggs CL850 sides and a Bestem top box. Home fabricated side bag mounts. Worked great for the last two year travels in Central America. Headed back to Mexico in January and will be using same soft side bags and hard lockable top box. Carrying tank bag is also a great idea. I do that also.

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Old 09-23-2012, 10:49 AM   #69403
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In my opinion, the DR subframe is pretty tough. We have just finished the Trans America Trail 2 up with gear. That's a lot of continuos pounding, 5000 Miles. No problems.
Congrats on the trip Phil. Awesome! Your set up shown above pretty much confirms just how tough DR sub frames are. Passenger Plus luggage Plus wash board and serious 5000 miles of hammering equals BROKE sub frame for most 600 class bikes out there.

My DR has ridden some tough Baja routes several times ... but never carrying a load like yours.

Hope your North America trip was fun you ya all!
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Old 09-23-2012, 10:56 AM   #69404
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Nice pics Rusty!

Just recently got back from a 2,600 west coast offroad trip. The DR took a pounding overall but performed flawlessly.

Accesesorized with the Wolfman bags Eakins so graciously sold me.


Mount Rainer in the backround


Mount Hood I believe


Getting an oil change at the 1,500 mile mark in Ashland Ore. Yea, Im that anal.....


Overlooking the Pacific on Californias Lost Coast and Kings Range


2 weeks and 2,600 miles later we made it to Reno where Allied picked her up and I flew back home.

The T63 did not make it all the way suprisingly. It was shot by the time I hit California and I needed to change it out, which I did.
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:02 AM   #69405
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Perhaps the best solution is both. A lockable hard topbox that contains your valuables and soft luggage that contains your dirty laundry. The really irreplaceable stuff goes in a removable tank bag that goes with you though the border crossings....

I'm leaving for SA in about a month. I have a full set of both. I'm still in limbo. I'll likely flip a coin and go with it the week before I leave. Ymmv.
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Big Congrats on making the Jump! Sounds like you've done your homework. I like your combo idea ... if not too heavy. Nice to have a riding buddy at borders. One watches, one does paperwork.

I did a Baja ride with GIVI hard bags (E-41). With racks, empty bags, hardware, they added 35 lbs. over my soft bag set up. Going soft bags forced me to really "Re-Think" what I carried. I learned to leave a lot behind. Went from roughly 100 lbs. set up down to 65 lbs. all up. (tools, parts, clothes, supplies, food, tubes, spare tire)
Like riding a different bike.

All the best on your ride! !Que le via muy bien!
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