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Old 09-25-2012, 12:40 PM   #69481
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Bob808: I have a completely unmolested BST40 I took off my 09 when it had 42 miles on it. It's been sitting on a box on my bench for 2 years. If interested PM me - I'll make you a sweet deal on it. (USA only)

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FB- If Bob808 is not intererested, I am. PM me.

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Old 09-25-2012, 12:46 PM   #69482
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Jeff, to replace the stator, I need to get these 6 allen bolts out, right? Anything else? Those bolts are going to be really tough, right? How do you suggest I remove them without air tools?
For the record, that's the rotor (it rotates) not the the stator (it's static).
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:08 PM   #69483
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FB- If Bob808 is not intererested, I am. PM me. ,,,Thanks............sh ps: Your PM box does not seem to be accepting messages.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:15 PM   #69484
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It does sound like a stator problem albeit an unusual one. The proof will be in the actual fixing of it.

If you ride with your lights unplugged your battery will not be depleted. The source coil produces power for the spark energy. The battery is not required to keep it running except for a very small amount of DC current that is routed through the key switch to the CDI as a theft deterrent. You would want to do a minimum amount of stops and starts as running the starter motor will deplete the battery.

Those 6 allen bolts hold the starter clutch to the back of the flywheel. Don't remove them! The stator is the round thing in the case cover with all the copper wire windings.
You can't easily tell by looking at it but there are 3 charging coils wound onto the iron core and the source coil is wound on top of them. The pickup coil is a small separate coil off the the side of the stator.
Thanks for explaining what the source coil does. Yeah, to make it back to Nairobi on the bike would mean a lot of stop/starts, so best to leave the bike here. I'm taking the stator with the case cover and will get the replacement properly installed and bring it back.

Ok, haha, yeah, now I remember that that's the rotor, not the stator. Was getting confused :/ Good I dont have to remove that. Replacing stator should be relatively easy then.
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For the record, that's the rotor (it rotates) not the the stator (it's static).
Now I know
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:23 PM   #69485
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My pics are taken from both sides of the bike, the hose goes straight back along the right frame rail. This is stock, there is no filter.

This:


Goes here:
Thank you!

Doh..sometimes it's hard to deal with such minor things, the 650SE is so rare here in Europe that it's hard to find out such things by looking at other one's bike. The manual doesn't say where the hose should go, either.

Thank you again! I really appreciate your help
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:23 PM   #69486
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I would like to be an engineer on the DR650 team.
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Jan. 1st. - Going to design the 2013 DR650
Jan. 2nd – not changing anything- send last years engineering plans to the manufacturing plant
Jan. 3rd through Dec 31- Hang out, ride bike, collect pay check…..
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:04 PM   #69487
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About to blow?

Would appreciate some quick input on the following.
I'm on a week long trip to Norway and the bike has been doing great up until this afternoon. I will try to explain it as best as I can, however English isn't my native tounge so it will be kinda hard. So bear withI me please.

This afternoon after stopping for gas the bike felt awkward when I pulled off. On low revs in first and second it made some real clonking sounds, not the usual tiny protests but much louder. Also I could feel it very clearly in the foot pegs. However when I rev it the sounds good away. In neutral the engine sounds as normal. Sorry for the crappy explanation I hope I made myself understood.
Anyone have a clue what it is I'm talking about? It feels so bad I'm concerned its the gearbox going kaboom.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:22 PM   #69488
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Thank you!

Doh..sometimes it's hard to deal with such minor things, the 650SE is so rare here in Europe that it's hard to find out such things by looking at other one's bike. The manual doesn't say where the hose should go, either.

Thank you again! I really appreciate your help
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:35 PM   #69489
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I would like to be an engineer on the DR650 team.
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Jan. 1st. - Going to design the 2013 DR650
Jan. 2nd – not changing anything- send last years engineering plans to the manufacturing plant
Jan. 3rd through Dec 31- Hang out, ride bike, collect pay check…..
Why would you mess with perfection???
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:46 PM   #69490
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Correspondences on CV carbs:

Low rpm all throttle positions: float height, needle base diameter, emulsion tube outlet size
WOT operation overall: main jet
WOT operation between HP peak and red line: main air corrector
WOT operation below red line: jet needle shape
1/4 throttle opening: jet needle clip position
1/8 throttle opening: pilot jet size
1/16 throttle opening: pilot jet size
idle: mixture screw adjustment

Note that tuning should always be done from the top down, although the idle mixture screw should be adjusted at each change.
When I go WOT, then roll back, I get a pretty big hesitation or miss for about a second. Is that main jet? Need to go smaller or larger? Bike has top of airbox opened, FMF pipe, carb must have been tuned by PO. It runs pretty well except for this.
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:25 PM   #69491
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I would like to be an engineer on the DR650 team.
Engineer log:
Jan. 1st. - Going to design the 2013 DR650
Jan. 2ndwalk around DR factory - give the guy who installs NSU screws a tube of Loctite, tell guy who installs top chain roller to go help the guy who installs NSU screws instead
Jan. 3rd through Dec 31-.Get out engineering books from Uni and try to work out what is going wrong with 3rd gear
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:57 PM   #69492
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Would appreciate some quick input on the following.
I'm on a week long trip to Norway and the bike has been doing great up until this afternoon. I will try to explain it as best as I can, however English isn't my native tounge so it will be kinda hard. So bear withI me please.

This afternoon after stopping for gas the bike felt awkward when I pulled off. On low revs in first and second it made some real clonking sounds, not the usual tiny protests but much louder. Also I could feel it very clearly in the foot pegs. However when I rev it the sounds good away. In neutral the engine sounds as normal. Sorry for the crappy explanation I hope I made myself understood.
Anyone have a clue what it is I'm talking about? It feels so bad I'm concerned its the gearbox going kaboom.
Just to make sure I get what you're saying, if you're lugging along at low RPMs, you'll hear the noise. If you then downshift so the RPMs go up, the noise goes away? I noticed that when I first got the bike, and I believe it's normal. When I'm lugging the bike badly - like fifth gear at 35 mph - I'll hear the noise. I think I heard once that it's actually the chain slapping the chain roller. Everyone I've talked to just said "that's just how this bike is."
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:00 PM   #69493
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Fixed
Nah. They just realize that the kind of people that buy the DR650 are willing to get inside their engines and do all that crap themselves. We make it easy for em. I'm waiting for the day when Suzuki says "hmm. If we spent an extra $200 per bike at factory prices, we could probably put the TM40 carb on these bikes as stock."
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:15 PM   #69494
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I didn't think anyone was saying it worked better than the expensive stuff that's actually designed specifically for cleaning carbs. I thought the general consensus was that it's good enough if you let it work long enough, and it's significantly cheaper.

... and a lot less toxic to your lungs, liver, kidneys, brain. Those halogenated solvents work, but they are wicked. Take care when working with them.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:58 PM   #69495
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Would appreciate some quick input on the following.
I'm on a week long trip to Norway and the bike has been doing great up until this afternoon. I will try to explain it as best as I can, however English isn't my native tounge so it will be kinda hard. So bear withI me please.

This afternoon after stopping for gas the bike felt awkward when I pulled off. On low revs in first and second it made some real clonking sounds, not the usual tiny protests but much louder. Also I could feel it very clearly in the foot pegs. However when I rev it the sounds good away. In neutral the engine sounds as normal. Sorry for the crappy explanation I hope I made myself understood.
Anyone have a clue what it is I'm talking about? It feels so bad I'm concerned its the gearbox going kaboom.
This is not likely but it sounds like the choke is stuck on...
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