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Old 10-08-2012, 04:39 PM   #69901
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Another question:
The new bearings will be double-seal versions. Is it still necesary to use the extra seals?

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Can't hurt, unless you want to cutback on some friction.

I always use double sealed bearings, and then pack grease betwen them and the outer separate seal. Means that anything that gets past the seal, still has more work to do to get to the bearing.
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:41 PM   #69902
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Thanks a lot for the info regarding the rear wheel bearings.

Here's what my original bearings looked like after 28.000 km (12.700 mi)


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I think that is 17,400 miles
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Old 10-08-2012, 04:43 PM   #69903
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Hi guys,

Is a 2001 dr650SE with 7000 miles for $2000 Fair? Seller wouldn't go down in price. It's a clean bone stock example. I think nada value is about $1600 for that year. Been looking for one for a while. But no luck. Not many people selling. And ppl want $4500 + for newer years in North east.

updated info, it does have extra gas tank and skid plate. I think that's about it.

Thanks in advance
I haven't seen any under $2000 in good condition. I'm sure they pop up from time to time, but IMO $2000 is fair.
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Old 10-08-2012, 05:25 PM   #69904
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I haven't seen any under $2000 in good condition. I'm sure they pop up from time to time, but IMO $2000 is fair.

+1 Its a fair deal, take it!
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Old 10-08-2012, 06:41 PM   #69905
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Looking at trading my 2004 Yamaha FZ6 for a 1996 DR650 with low miles and looks to be in great condition, am I crazy?
The guy is asking 2700 for the bike and mine is worth a little more maybe 3000 - 3200.
The DR has a FMF pipe and has supposedly been jetted for it and everything else is stock. What should I look for, I commute 100 miles a day is this thing reliable and able enough to make it? about 20 of that is interstate travel the rest is back roads. What about tank range, the FZ will take me about 250 miles on a tank of gas what about the DR? I also get 50 mpgs is this about the same?
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Ask for the stock exhaust if you're getting this DR. The FMF is MUCH louder than stock on the slab, especially if you don't re-pack it religiously. Pipes that need re-packing just don't make sense for a bike that racks up mileage. They're better left to dirtbikes, that measure their wear in HOURS.
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:40 PM   #69906
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anyone ever noticed the grease seal on the inside of the speedo hub mount? suzuki doesnt list it as a separate part so i was wondering if anyone has found where you can buy one aftermarket. after 111 000km i think it only right by my girl that i replace for her.
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Old 10-08-2012, 08:45 PM   #69907
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+1 Its a fair deal, take it!
I pulled the trigger :)
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:05 PM   #69908
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Looking at trading my 2004 Yamaha FZ6 for a 1996 DR650 with low miles and looks to be in great condition, am I crazy?
The guy is asking 2700 for the bike and mine is worth a little more maybe 3000 - 3200.
The DR has a FMF pipe and has supposedly been jetted for it and everything else is stock. What should I look for, I commute 100 miles a day is this thing reliable and able enough to make it? about 20 of that is interstate travel the rest is back roads. What about tank range, the FZ will take me about 250 miles on a tank of gas what about the DR? I also get 50 mpgs is this about the same?
Ken

I wouldn't do that trade. Honestly, DR650s aren't hard bikes to find, and they're definitely not hard to find on the cheap. At any given time there's two or three of them in good condition in my area just on Craigslist. If it were me and I had to do it all over again, I would have kept my street bike, gotten a night job at McDonalds or something, and just worked the couple months it'd take to save up for the second bike. If having two bikes is, for whatever reason, completely impossible/impractical for your situation, then sell your bike first to get every penny of what it's worth. If you're dead set on doing a straight trade...come on down to Albuquerque and we'll swap.
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:13 PM   #69909
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Thanks a lot for the info regarding the rear wheel bearings.
Thanks for the follow-up, I wondered where you ended up on this.

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Here's what my original bearings looked like after 28.000 km. The new bearings will be double-seal versions.

Is it still necesary to use the extra seals?
Take a look at your photo. I'm thinking: Yes, use all the seals you can fit in there.
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I guess i was lucky......................
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anyone ever noticed the grease seal on the inside of the speedo hub mount? suzuki doesnt list it as a separate part so i was wondering if anyone has found where you can buy one aftermarket. after 111 000km i think it only right by my girl that i replace for her.
72k miles This came up some time ago, I never saw an answer. I'd like to replace mine too.
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:59 PM   #69910
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I pulled the trigger :)

Congrats! I agree with others here. $2K for a solid bike is a place a lot of folks would like to be.
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:25 PM   #69911
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This takes me back many years. Short story: I had a 65 pound black standard poodle, he was my best bud (got me thru my divorce). One day I had to do an oil change and I used an 18" diameter open top drain pan with 4" sides. So I got the oil drained and wondered "Where do I put this where I won't trip over it?" Aha, I'll just slide it under the boat trailer tongue (in the garage). Bear was allowed to wander the house and yard thru his dog door. I went in to watch football. During half time, I went to check on him and wandered into the garage. There must have been 1000 dog prints on the concrete floor. How my best buddy managed to get both his front feet into that oil pan is beyond me. Spent an hour with toxic chemicals cleaning the garage floor. At least he didn't come in the house.
No, he did not get yelled at, nor blamed.
Haha, this is too funny!!!
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Old 10-08-2012, 11:26 PM   #69912
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So yesterday I got around to making the modification described above. After draining some oil and pulling the spring out, I had to compress the fork while it was upside down in a oil pan, and slowly compress the fork to get the Intiminators out. Well not once but TWICE did I end up spraying oil all over the floor as it shot down with force into the oil pan. I should have built a little cardboard wall/fort around the pan so I did not have to spent half a hour wiping off of everything.



I removed about 1mm from each oil ring, and as I put everything back together it was MUCH easier to slide the Intiminators back in the forks. Now I had hopes. After finishing off the re-assembly with Maxima 5wt oil, I bolted everything back together. Time for the moment of truth...

..and no dice. It feels and sounds exactly the same as before.

Not sure what to do at this point. Might be a good time to upgrade to Gold Valves for slightly better off road performance!
OK, another update here.

I was trying to avoid just straight up removing them, but I figured it was worth a shot. So today I had a free hour and decided to pull out the Intiminators to see how the fork action is. I did not bother to add more oil (as the oil height dropped), add preload (to keep the same preload I should add around 3/4" extra in PVC pipe, or bump the oil viscosity up (with the Intiminators removed I should go back up to around 10 wt, as Ricor recommended a lower 5 wt). I will do these things later.

The fork action has pretty much returned to normal, in regards to no more excessive binding, easier to compress, and it rebounds back to normal ride height without me having to "pull" it up. There is still a slight amount of stiction, more then my F800GS or WR250R, but hey, it's a low tech DS bike without nice USD forks, so it feels pretty damn good now for what it is.

It looks like the bottom edge could have been scrapping the inside of the fork tubes a bit too much.


For now I will just return to a higher viscosity oil and leave the Intiminators out, more or less a stock fork setup.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:03 AM   #69913
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Thanks, new to dual sport. a lot to learn. first to get proper boots. I don't think my racing boots work for this application.

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Congrats! I agree with others here. $2K for a solid bike is a place a lot of folks would like to be.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:08 AM   #69914
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Thanks, new to dual sport. a lot to learn. first to get proper boots. I don't think my racing boots work for this application.
Which boots are those? They'll probably do just fine for the time being. You may need to raise the shift lever a little so you can get your toe under it.

I started out with a pair of Alpinestars Tech 2's. I still wear them strictly for dirt riding on my KLX250S, until I can get something taller. I just wasn't comfortable in full-height boots at the time. But just recently, I got a killer deal on some Sidi Adventure Rain boots. I don't think they're armored quite enough for true offroading, but for adventure riding, they ROCK. VERY comfortable. I swapped out the stock insoles with some SuperFeet insoles (the green ones). At first, I had to raise the shifter a notch, but now that they've broken in, I was able to put it back down. The only downside is these boots squeak like mad. I've read you can oil them, but I haven't tried yet.

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Old 10-09-2012, 08:17 AM   #69915
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Rob,

I have A* smx plus racing boots. The sole is quite thin on those boots. Been reading reviews on merchants sites. sidi sure makes nice boots. but also $$$.

I currently have REVIT! textile jacket and Pants.

Thanks for the tip

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Which boots are those? They'll probably do just fine for the time being. You may need to raise the shift lever a little so you can get your toe under it.

I started out with a pair of Alpinestars Tech 2's. I still wear them strictly for dirt riding on my KLX250S, until I can get something taller. I just wasn't comfortable in full-height boots at the time. But just recently, I got a killer deal on some Sidi Adventure Rain boots. I don't think they're armored quite enough for true offroading, but for adventure riding, they ROCK. VERY comfortable. I swapped out the stock insoles with some SuperFeet insoles (the green ones). At first, I had to raise the shifter a notch, but now that they've broken in, I was able to put it back down. The only downside is these boots squeak like mad. I've read you can oil them, but I haven't tried yet.

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