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Old 10-19-2012, 11:33 AM   #70246
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Race Proven DR parts? Who would race one of these tanks in Baja to prove the parts?

You gotta be a bit crazy to try that...


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Old 10-19-2012, 12:24 PM   #70247
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figured id post up before i head home and begin pulling parts off...

Last week I noticed that my speedo wasnt working at all, assumed the cable was gone, so i pulled it off, noticed a couple inches were left in my wheel speed sensor, and pulled it out as well. checked that the speedo head wasnt locked up and it spun freely. Ordered a motion pro cable from procycle on a friday afternoon and it was on my desk by the following monday (Procycle FTW!) Popped it in with no problem, and rode it down the driveway and it worked, so I parked it, rode to and from work the next two days with no problem. Yesterday morning was particularly cold, (it was actually below freezing) not sure if that had anything to do with my problem, but the speedo was nonresponsive/jumping erratically as I rode down the driveway. by the time i got to the road (maybe 1/4 to 1/2 mile) it was working fine, and continued to do so till I came to a stop, then it acted the same till I got up through 4th gear or so and it was fine. Today it did the same thing in the morning, and I just went to lunch and on my way back from lunch I noticed the speedo needle wasnt moving at all.

Obviously im posting up in hopes 10-15 of you will chime in an tell me im an idiot for not changing the speed sensor, or some other known to fail part when the cable goes, I'll call myself an idiot, and order up the parts. otherwise, im gonna start pulling off parts tomorrow morning and trying to find out why the cable has failed. thanks in advance!
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Old 10-19-2012, 12:33 PM   #70248
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It doesn't specifically say cold (unless it says so elsewhere in the referred-to post).

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you are right - perhaps a faulty assumption on my part to assume when he answered your question about cold start, he did not mean the engine was actually cold. i guess we need to wait for werification from the source.

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Old 10-19-2012, 01:31 PM   #70249
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When I R&R'd my rear shock, I forgot to plug in the NSU plug up by the upper shock bolt. My engine wouldn't start with the side stand down either. So you are looking in the right place.
I went back in there and traced that wire from the engine up to the seat area where it seems like a malfunction junction where all the connectors are and found the connector with the single blue wire was connected. I then did a switchectomy on the side stand switch and it will now start with the stand down.

Still no joy on the neutral light, I guess I'll be digging in there this weekend.

Edit: Checked continuity on the blue wire from the NSU to ground and I get an open reading....should be a short when in neutral.
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:23 PM   #70250
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Obviously im posting up in hopes 10-15 of you will chime in an tell me im an idiot for not changing the speed sensor
Hmmm, there is no speed sensor on the DR; the speedometer on the DR is purely mechanical, using a worm drive connected to the front wheel hub.

From the symptoms you're describing, it sounds like a worn worm drive to me. Just take the front wheel out and examine the gears in the worm drive. If these look good, then the only other culprit would be the speedo itself since you have already eliminated the speedo cable.
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:35 PM   #70251
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Hmmm, there is no speed sensor on the DR; the speedometer on the DR is purely mechanical, using a worm drive connected to the front wheel hub.

From the symptoms you're describing, it sounds like a worn worm drive to me. Just take the front wheel out and examine the gears in the worm drive. If these look good, then the only other culprit would be the speedo itself since you have already eliminated the speedo cable.
Yeah, I'm using the wrong nomenclature, but i was referring to the housing the bottom end of the cable plugs into. The steps you describe is the steps i planned on taking if i didn't get any answers or didn't have internet access. Thanks though.
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Old 10-19-2012, 05:00 PM   #70252
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Today it did the same thing in the morning, and I just went to lunch and on my way back from lunch I noticed the speedo needle wasnt moving at all...

... im gonna start pulling off parts tomorrow morning and trying to find out why the cable has failed. thanks in advance!
Make sure your speedo drive isn't installed in the wrong position. If it's rotated back too far it will put a bend in the housing and overstress the inner cable.
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Old 10-19-2012, 06:03 PM   #70253
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Make sure your speedo drive isn't installed in the wrong position. If it's rotated back too far it will put a bend in the housing and overstress the inner cable.
Its right between 9 and 10 o clock. It could probably rotate a bit clockwise, Doesn't look to stressed, but I'll keep that in mind during re assembly.
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:49 PM   #70254
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Its right between 9 and 10 o clock.
Sounds just right.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:03 PM   #70255
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:04 PM   #70256
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Its right between 9 and 10 o clock. It could probably rotate a bit clockwise, Doesn't look to stressed, but I'll keep that in mind during re assembly.
If you don't wind up being able to get it working and it looks like you're going to have to buy a new speedometer unit, I'd recommend saving your money and just snagging a TrailTech Vapor or something. Honestly, I'd probably go ahead and do it anyways lol. Got to start the farkling somewhere.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:31 PM   #70257
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Its right between 9 and 10 o clock. It could probably rotate a bit clockwise, Doesn't look to stressed, but I'll keep that in mind during re assembly.
Also be aware of the little cable guide loop on the fender for the speedo cable. If your cable does not pass through the guide, then on hard stops or off road riding the speedo cable will be stressed and break prematurely.
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:35 AM   #70258
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Brakes???????

I love my DR650, had it since new and done loads of mods to improve it, except the brakes. How d'you make them stop better? The brakes on mine have always left me feeling pretty underwhelmed. I've got braided hoses and decent pads, but there's a fair bit of weight to haul up especially if loaded.
Any mods/comments
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:05 AM   #70259
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I love my DR650, had it since new and done loads of mods to improve it, except the brakes. How d'you make them stop better? The brakes on mine have always left me feeling pretty underwhelmed. I've got braided hoses and decent pads, but there's a fair bit of weight to haul up especially if loaded.
Any mods/comments
Good Lord......my suggestion..get a smaller bike. If thats you on that bike you make it look like an xr650l on steroids DR's aren't normally skyscraper tall, so I'm guessing thats about a 5 footer sitting on it. A lower, lighter bike will definately stop and handle better And that 7 gallon tank isn't going to help stopping any
First time I've ever seen someone make the stock bars look like apehangers

Now show us some real pics
And if those ARE real pics forgive me.....its all in fun
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Old 10-20-2012, 03:13 AM   #70260
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From the reading I did prior to getting the work done, it seems in 06 or 07 suzuki released a new 3rd gear that replaced the old one. I'm assuming it was done in an effort to address the issues with the gear blowing up. I decided to go a head and replace my gear with the newest one instead of buying the billet unit. Hopefully I don't regret it.
The new Suzuki 3rd has also blown up...
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