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Old 10-22-2012, 10:16 AM   #70321
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For those of you who've tinkered with dr650 suspension mods I've got a question:

If you could have ANYTHING done on yours what would it be; forks from a donor bike, different swingarm and/or shock or would the ultimate fix be too cost prohibitive wherein a prudent person would save the cash and apply towards a different bike altogether?
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:05 AM   #70322
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I have already decided on the rims sealing procedure that I will and have supplies on hand. Just interested in the results that other DR riders have had.
I sealed my rims and they have been working fine for more than 6 months and 5000 miles. They lose air at the rate of about 3psi per week, but compared to the advantages, airing up once a week is a very small price to pay.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:19 AM   #70323
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I sealed my rims and they have been working fine for more than 6 months and 5000 miles. They lose air at the rate of about 3psi per week, but compared to the advantages, airing up once a week is a very small price to pay.
What'd you use to seal them up? Pinching tubes is a serious pain in the ass, so if there's something that can be done...
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:33 AM   #70324
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What'd you use to seal them up? Pinching tubes is a serious pain in the ass, so if there's something that can be done...
search around, there are threads all over re tuBliss

http://tubliss.com/


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Old 10-22-2012, 11:48 AM   #70325
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search around, there are threads all over re tuBliss

http://tubliss.com/

They dont have a 17" size available for the rear.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:50 AM   #70326
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For those of you who've tinkered with dr650 suspension mods I've got a question:

If you could have ANYTHING done on yours what would it be; forks from a donor bike, different swingarm and/or shock or would the ultimate fix be too cost prohibitive wherein a prudent person would save the cash and apply towards a different bike altogether?
Depends the sort of riding you plan. The Aussies on here tend to swap out the forks for DRZ, RM or other forks that fit. Sometimes involves machining stems and finding upper/lower triples to fit. Most dirt bike forks are too TALL and can mess up geometry/handling. But if done right, works great.

IMO, the stock 43mm KYB forks aren't bad if you revalve and set them up properly. Race-Tech emulators work well on my bike, combined with lots of
messing round with preload, oil weight and oil height. Heavier springs as well. I've ridden bikes with Ohlins forks, well set up WP and Marzocchi forks back to back with my DR and the DR compares quite well both on and off road. Any fork you put on will have to dialed in for your use, riding style and weight.

I'm running an Ohlins rear shock and have zero complaints. It's excellent, but not sure if Ohlins still make a shock for the DR650. Mine is over 10 years old. It rocks.

I don't ride much serious technical off road on my bike. Mostly an ADV tourer set up for Mexico, California Sierra and Desert. Very happy, even in deep sand and nasty rock.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:24 PM   #70327
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I like the paint job on the bike there. Where was that photo taken?
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:26 PM   #70328
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What'd you use to seal them up? Pinching tubes is a serious pain in the ass, so if there's something that can be done...
I used Cyborg's method, but there are long threads in SuperMotoJunkie about various methods for sealing spoked wheels.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:28 PM   #70329
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Have you been running street, dualsport or off road tires?

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I sealed my rims and they have been working fine for more than 6 months and 5000 miles. They lose air at the rate of about 3psi per week, but compared to the advantages, airing up once a week is a very small price to pay.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:49 PM   #70330
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I used a 3M Marine sealer for the spoke nipples and enlarged the valve stem hole for a tubeless valve stem.
You don't need to enlarge the valve stem hole; NAPA P/N 90-426 fits in the existing hole.

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Lets say you get a flat on the road. You plug the hole ... but lets say the bead has broken (this typically won't happen on a real tubeless rim, but the stock DR rim is NOT a tubeless rim) So if the bead is broken ... how do you re-inflate on the side of the road with CO-2 or hand pump?
Not a concern -- at home I use a bicycle pump to seat the bead and inflate the tyre. On the road I carry an electric pump, so if I get a flat it's going to be easier than the procedure I use at home.

BTW, the whole point of going tubeless is that in case of a flat your tyres will deflate very slowly, therefore the prospect of a tubeless tyre rim getting off the safety bead is very remote.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:51 PM   #70331
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search around, there are threads all over re tuBliss

http://tubliss.com/
Tubliss is not recommended for street use -- apparently the temperatures developed on the road are too high for the internal bladder.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:32 PM   #70332
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Have you been running street, dualsport or off road tires?
I have been running dualsport tyres, specifically, Shinkos 705.

I selected tyres that are designated as "tubeless", but I have read multiple comments that tube-type tyres hold air equally well.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:46 PM   #70333
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They dont have a 17" size available for the rear.
Not that big a deal, I've never pinch flatted a rear tire, but I've done it a bunch on the front. I went Tubliss on my 450 EXC over 3 years ago and have never had a pinch flat since.
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Old 10-22-2012, 01:48 PM   #70334
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Tubliss is not recommended for street use -- apparently the temperatures developed on the road are too high for the internal bladder.
CYA stuff. I've run 75+ for long periods of time with no ill effects. Heck, I ran a front tire that was flat for 80 miles at 60 MPH and the bladder was fine.
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:21 PM   #70335
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Took my rear wheel off today and dismantled it. Im sending my hub to warp 9 to be fitted with a 17x4.25 rim.

I realized that inside the hub there are the 2 bearings, 1 on each side, and a hollow cylinder between them. That hollow cylinder is able to move freely around in the hub. Is this okay? It doesn't have too much play, and the bearings and dust covers are fine.
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