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Old 10-25-2012, 12:49 PM   #70456
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8,500 miles is broken
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Not if it's 8500 miles I've put on the bike.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:53 PM   #70457
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I noticed in the service manual that the Swiss/Austria versions of the DR have an ON/OFF switch for the headlights (on the right handlebar).

Anyone know where I can pick up one of these Euro-version switches? (I'm in the states)

I hate not being able to turn the lights off!
Check here http://www.cmsnl.com/suzuki-dr650-19...rh_3720032e00/
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Old 10-25-2012, 07:30 PM   #70458
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Battery!

I had heard in this thread some time ago about Ballistic Batteries, the American-made alternative to the Shorai. The battery in my FZ1 was about dead, so I ordered one for it and it arrived today. WOW, very impressed. The new battery (8 cell) is maybe 1/4 the size of the stock battery (which isn't even as big as the DR650's battery) and weighs about 2 lbs, compared to almost 10 lbs for the stocker. Very, very slick.

I'm going to put one of these in my other bikes in the near future. They list the DR650 as taking an 8-cell too, but I looked at the specs, and a 12-cell will fit, so I'll go with one of those for extra capacity, especially given all the accessories that I run. My KLX is said to take a 4-cell, but the 8-cell is still smaller than its stock battery, so I'll do that for it.

Only downside I can see so far is that the Battery Bug doesn't work with these batteries. The first time I started the bike, the BB dropped to 0% life remaining and started beeping incessantly, thinking the battery was shot. I reset it and tried it again, same result, even though the battery was still showing 13.1V after the first start. Oh well.

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Old 10-25-2012, 08:07 PM   #70459
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Mighty DR650 owners.... I'm in need of some pre-purchase advice or opinions!

I'm looking into a '08 DR650 with 8500 miles. I know that condition, care, and service are the important variables when assessing the mileage of a used bike... But what can you all tell me about 8500 miles on a '08 DR? What type of maintenance should have occurred at this point? Anything I should be concerned about? All I know thus far is that the bike looks clean and the owner says most mileage has been road/commuter... Not trail.
I got my '08 with 800 miles on it in '09- basically a brand new bike.

It now has 52,500 miles, and is still going strong. Very reliable bike.

I'd jump on that '08 if I were you. 8,500 miles is a low mileage DR, especially a street ridden bike.

.............shu
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Old 10-25-2012, 08:44 PM   #70460
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Your prices kill me. I paid $6k for a 2008 with 4,000km.

Prices here are ridiculous, here's a 2004 DR650 with 96,000km yes Ninety Six thousand for the princely sum of $5,000

http://www.teammoto.com.au/used_bike...tock_id=214091
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Old 10-25-2012, 09:38 PM   #70461
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I hit 41,242 miles on mine today (my goodness, how time flies), it's a great commuter. Well, except that I'm retired.

Ok, stop teasing Derek. To help, mark your throttle grip with a silver Sharpie; 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, full. Now you'll know which circuit you're on when the trouble is happening (pilot, needle, main jet). There's no way to know what the PO did inside the carb. Take it off and apart, photo the needle with the clip and any spacers, tell us the main jet size, pilot jet size. If you have the white spacer, slide it down to show which notch you're on.

There's a bucket-load of info here: (from at KTM, don't get confused, there are small differences). All of these pics are from this link.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ighlight=bst40

Example photo of a needle with clip and spacers (still from a KTM,). No need for the labeling, we'll know what's what.



Although the DR doesn't usually have the following problems, yours runs like crap so we'll check everywhere.
The DR doesn't shake like a paint mixer (KTM LC4), you shouldn't find this (or any burnishing on the needle implying wear).



Look very closely at the needle jet for wear (top of the jet).



Needle jet, etc:

Got a date with it Saturday morning! Just me and the DR are gonna spend some quality time together and try to figure this thing out.
I have tried everything suggested here and nothing is getting me better results, the irony of it all is I stopped for gas today and filler the beast up and was getting 52.6 mpgs as bad as its running!
did the throttle tape mark thing and surging was present up to 3/4 throttle. Taped the airbox, removed tape, etc and what worked good one morning didn't that afternoon. dialed in the fuel/air finger screw and at 2 turns it works best but still surges everywhere except 3/4 throttle, the bike barely runs on anything but 2 turns. Sea Foam or StarTron didn't make a difference at all.
I also still have some strange vibrations and noises going on while accelerating in the upper gears doesn't do it when I pull in the clutch.
So we will see Saturday and if I can't figure it out I guess there will be a nice 03 DR for sale here next week because I really don't have the time or cash to tinker with it.
I do want to thank everyone with all the help and suggestions and especially Derek for putting up with all the questions.
I really hope I can get it sorted because I have had a blast riding it surging, noisy or not!
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:39 AM   #70462
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I love my DR650, had it since new and done loads of mods to improve it, except the brakes. How d'you make them stop better? The brakes on mine have always left me feeling pretty underwhelmed. I've got braided hoses and decent pads, but there's a fair bit of weight to haul up especially if loaded.
Any mods/comments
Pre 96 DR's have twin piston rear calipers and a 14mm master cylinder. That would have to be better the single piston caliper used on the later models??
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Old 10-26-2012, 04:58 AM   #70463
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Lowering rear brake lever

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If you rotate the shaft which goes into the master cylinder, you can raise or lower the brake pedal. Make sure you loosen the locknut, and free up the rubber dust cover before you try to turn the shaft. If it's stuck to the shaft, you might damage it.
How far does that shaft that go into the master cylinder? I got it to lower a lil but not enough. I don't want to loosen it where it comes out completely.
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:01 AM   #70464
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How far does that shaft that go into the master cylinder? I got it to lower a lil but not enough. I don't want to loosen it where it comes out completely.
You don't loosen or turn the shaft out to lower the pedal. You turn it in so it goes deeper into the master cylinder. And I think you just won't be able to go any farther when you reach the limit.
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Old 10-26-2012, 07:37 AM   #70465
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My Vapor weirdness problem has disappeared. Was fine on the ride home yesterday, and the ride back in this morning. Weird. Next time I have time, I'll pull things apart and check the plug caps, put dialectric grease on, etc.

Rob
Hmm, my Vapor has done the things you mention, usually just for a bit and then its fine - but what really bugs me about it is that if it gets cold out (below about 40 degrees F) it stops giving speed or mileage readings!
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:04 AM   #70466
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I had heard in this thread some time ago about Ballistic Batteries, the American-made alternative to the Shorai. The battery in my FZ1 was about dead, so I ordered one for it and it arrived today. WOW, very impressed. The new battery (8 cell) is maybe 1/4 the size of the stock battery (which isn't even as big as the DR650's battery) and weighs about 2 lbs, compared to almost 10 lbs for the stocker. Very, very slick.

I'm going to put one of these in my other bikes in the near future. They list the DR650 as taking an 8-cell too, but I looked at the specs, and a 12-cell will fit, so I'll go with one of those for extra capacity, especially given all the accessories that I run. My KLX is said to take a 4-cell, but the 8-cell is still smaller than its stock battery, so I'll do that for it.

Only downside I can see so far is that the Battery Bug doesn't work with these batteries. The first time I started the bike, the BB dropped to 0% life remaining and started beeping incessantly, thinking the battery was shot. I reset it and tried it again, same result, even though the battery was still showing 13.1V after the first start. Oh well.

Rob
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:09 AM   #70467
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Your prices kill me. I paid $6k for a 2008 with 4,000km.

Prices here are ridiculous, here's a 2004 DR650 with 96,000km yes Ninety Six thousand for the princely sum of $5,000

http://www.teammoto.com.au/used_bike...tock_id=214091
Geez: I went to an exchange chart to see what a US dollar is worth compared to an Australian dollar fully expecting a 2 to 1 ratio, but they are basically the same value. That's whack! I think I should start importing boatloads of used DR's to your locale. Does AUS have hideous import duties? I think that would drive the price up and keep it there for your used bikes as well.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:20 AM   #70468
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Shaft stays the same in the master cylinder. Look at the bottom of the shaft below the lock nut and you will see the shaft turning in a clevis that raises and lower the brake peddle.

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How far does that shaft that go into the master cylinder? I got it to lower a lil but not enough. I don't want to loosen it where it comes out completely.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:06 AM   #70469
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Hmm, my Vapor has done the things you mention, usually just for a bit and then its fine - but what really bugs me about it is that if it gets cold out (below about 40 degrees F) it stops giving speed or mileage readings!
Call them up.

I have had problems with my Vapor as well. What I can say is that I've never seen a company work as hard from a customer service standpoint.
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:10 AM   #70470
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Where did you end up getting it from?
The battery? Motorcycle Superstore. I had a 10% coupon, so total cost with free shipping was $144.

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