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Old 10-26-2012, 09:13 AM   #70471
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Got a date with it Saturday morning! Just me and the DR are gonna spend some quality time together and try to figure this thing out.
I have tried everything suggested here and nothing is getting me better results, the irony of it all is I stopped for gas today and filler the beast up and was getting 52.6 mpgs as bad as its running!
did the throttle tape mark thing and surging was present up to 3/4 throttle. Taped the airbox, removed tape, etc and what worked good one morning didn't that afternoon. dialed in the fuel/air finger screw and at 2 turns it works best but still surges everywhere except 3/4 throttle, the bike barely runs on anything but 2 turns. Sea Foam or StarTron didn't make a difference at all.
I also still have some strange vibrations and noises going on while accelerating in the upper gears doesn't do it when I pull in the clutch.
So we will see Saturday and if I can't figure it out I guess there will be a nice 03 DR for sale here next week because I really don't have the time or cash to tinker with it.
I do want to thank everyone with all the help and suggestions and especially Derek for putting up with all the questions.
I really hope I can get it sorted because I have had a blast riding it surging, noisy or not!
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting diffrent results. Maybe start looking in another direction? Are the valves adjusted properly? Plugs and plug wires in good order? Fuel filter at the inlet is clean?

I feel for you..problems like this are no fun. Everyone is carb crazy around here so that is the first place they start when something isn't right...but problems could start somewhere else. Had an old mechanic tell me one time- "90% of carb problems are ignition related" While he was talking about cars it has rang true in the 20 years I have worked on engines- I would give it more of a 70%, but you get the idea.
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Old 10-26-2012, 09:18 AM   #70472
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The battery? Motorcycle Superstore. I had a 10% coupon, so total cost with free shipping was $144.

Rob

You guys yapping about batteries put the bad voodoo on me. Went to start the bike this morning...would barely crank over...and not enough to start. Damn it! I only got 3 years out of that battery! What a piece of shit. All of my other bikes lasted atleast 5 years. I really wanted to ride this morning but didn't have time to throw the charger on it- wish it had a kick start!
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:19 AM   #70473
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Got a date with it Saturday morning! Just me and the DR are gonna spend some quality time together and try to figure this thing out.
I have tried everything suggested here and nothing is getting me better results, the irony of it all is I stopped for gas today and filler the beast up and was getting 52.6 mpgs as bad as its running!
did the throttle tape mark thing and surging was present up to 3/4 throttle. Taped the airbox, removed tape, etc and what worked good one morning didn't that afternoon. dialed in the fuel/air finger screw and at 2 turns it works best but still surges everywhere except 3/4 throttle, the bike barely runs on anything but 2 turns. Sea Foam or StarTron didn't make a difference at all.
I also still have some strange vibrations and noises going on while accelerating in the upper gears doesn't do it when I pull in the clutch.
So we will see Saturday and if I can't figure it out I guess there will be a nice 03 DR for sale here next week because I really don't have the time or cash to tinker with it.
I do want to thank everyone with all the help and suggestions and especially Derek for putting up with all the questions.
I really hope I can get it sorted because I have had a blast riding it surging, noisy or not!
Are the vibes/noises in the upper gears, the upper RPMs, the upper roadspeeds, or the more-open throttle positions? What about the surging?

I'd also check your chain and sprockets for being the cause of some of the surging, and if you haven't already, isolate the crankcase breather filter from the airbox opening. If the crankcase breather is close to the airbox opening, it can contribute significantly to a surging issue.
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:37 AM   #70474
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You guys yapping about batteries put the bad voodoo on me. Went to start the bike this morning...would barely crank over...and not enough to start. Damn it! I only got 3 years out of that battery! What a piece of shit. All of my other bikes lasted atleast 5 years. I really wanted to ride this morning but didn't have time to throw the charger on it- wish it had a kick start!

It's colder here than where you are, but 3 years is all I have gotten from my last 2 batteries for my DR650. (6 months so far on the latest one) I would pay more for a battery that would last longer, but how can I know in advance. I go to a local battery specialty place and buy their $70 battery.
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:16 PM   #70475
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Heads up - Just in case any of you were waiting on the rear 17" Michelin T63 to be back in stock...

Back in stock at Motorcycle Superstore after being out of stock for several months. They had 12 in stock when I ordered mine. They still show in stock this afternoon, but may not last long, or they may be plentiful this winter, who knows?

I bought front and rear for $68 each, $136 for a set of tires is not too shabby!
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:18 PM   #70476
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- "90% of carb problems are ignition related".
Words of a Shaman to be sure. Truths spoken....
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Old 10-26-2012, 01:24 PM   #70477
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You guys yapping about batteries put the bad voodoo on me.
Too weird: After reading this my phione rings. It's my best friends dad. His battery is sooo dead, he can't get the transmission to allow him to shift so he can push it outta the garage to jump start it.(Honda Accord)

I went over and took it out and bought a new battery at Costco and put it in for him. It was the original one from 2004.

Glad we weren't discussing furnaces.
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Old 10-26-2012, 02:15 PM   #70478
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Words of a Shaman to be sure. Truths spoken....
I'm going to have to have to extend
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A Japanese motorcycle coil failure is very rare for anything made in the last 25 years. Out of the last hundred or so coils local folks have brought to me to check out thinking they had failed only one was bad.
to modern Japanese ignition system components in general. There is rarely an issue, and when there is, the engine generally quits running completely, i.e. if the engine still runs, the issue is not likely to be ignition related.

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Old 10-26-2012, 04:17 PM   #70479
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Geez: I went to an exchange chart to see what a US dollar is worth compared to an Australian dollar fully expecting a 2 to 1 ratio, but they are basically the same value. That's whack! I think I should start importing boatloads of used DR's to your locale. Does AUS have hideous import duties? I think that would drive the price up and keep it there for your used bikes as well.
Yeah but you'll lose you profit after shipping and conversion to right hand drive
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Old 10-26-2012, 05:17 PM   #70480
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A wise old guy once told me that "carburator" was French for "Don't f*** with it". But that was back when most people left the carbs alone, and ignitions had points, vacuum advance and retard, cheap plug wire insulation, weak coils etc. Now ignitions are (and should be) left alone, but the drivability of '90's era carb-holdovers leads us to tinker with jets and needles and often make things worse. I have two carbed bikes (one is the DR), neither with stock jetting, and frankly neither runs as well in all conditions of rpm, temperature, throttle and altitude as my bone-stock injected VStrom.

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I'm going to have to have to extendto modern Japanese ignition system components in general. There is rarely an issue, and when there is, the engine generally quits running completely, i.e. if the engine still runs, the issue is not likely to be ignition related.

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Old 10-26-2012, 07:26 PM   #70481
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I got my '08 with 800 miles on it in '09- basically a brand new bike.

It now has 52,500 miles, and is still going strong. Very reliable bike.

I'd jump on that '08 if I were you. 8,500 miles is a low mileage DR, especially a street ridden bike.

.............shu
Sheesh, I thought I rode the wheels off of mine this summer to get 12,800 miles. (41,242 total)

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How far does that shaft that go into the master cylinder? I got it to lower a lil but not enough. I don't want to loosen it where it comes out completely.
I had to shorten the shaft 1/4" to 5/16" by grinding off the bottom threads. Start here on #23 and read down.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=634746&page=2

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Shaft stays the same in the master cylinder. Look at the bottom of the shaft below the lock nut and you will see the shaft turning in a clevis that raises and lower the brake peddle.

TravelGuy.
Loosen the nut on top of the clevis, use the nut on the shaft (right at the boot), to turn the shaft, the nut under the clevis is captive, the shaft will travel down (shorter), allowing the rear of the pedal to rise (clear as a bell to me ). And be careful not to tear the rubber boot while turning the bolt.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:03 AM   #70482
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More than 12 hours since a reply. Have we run out of things to talk about?


I guess I'll have to go riding.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:11 AM   #70483
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Anybody have a pic of the new style type rear axle nut/name? Non cotter pin.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:18 AM   #70484
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# 15 here?

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/oem-schematic/1

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Old 10-27-2012, 08:26 AM   #70485
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OK, a few days ago in this thread I posted about doing research on replacement batteries for the DR650.

In my last post, I think I mentioned that I had decided, for my next battery, to use a Yuasa YTZ14S which is the same size as the OEM battery, except 3/16" taller (someone said they still fit and after opening up my bike, I bet they do) ... but the YTZ14S stores almost 50% more energy than the stock battery (11.5 Ah versus 8 Ah).

Anyway, I had saved an ebay bookmark where they were selling these batteries, and while cleaning up my bookmarks I looked at the ebay ad again, and THEY'RE NOW SELLING THESE BATTERIES FOR $8.79 WITH FREE SHIPPING!

SCORE!

If you're in the market for a new battery for your DR, take a look! For less than $9 delivered, how can you go wrong?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-YTZ14S-B...-/190737356832

Edited to Add: On second look, they appear to be knockoffs, not Yuasa batteries, but still the ebay merchant has almost 82000 points with 99.6% positive feedback...I have no financial relationship with them, and have my fingers crossed...


Ordered one of these, was delivered a couple of days ago. Delivered it had 12.5v, tested @ 145 CCA. Charged it for a day, let it rest overnight, tested at 13.1v, 205 CCA. A great buy for less than $9 delivered. Thanks for the link.
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