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Old 11-11-2012, 03:43 PM   #70891
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So, I have an interesting issue that's been plaguing me since I bought the bike. I'm having a problem getting the bike to start. I'll push the starter button with the key in and on. The clutch is in, the bike is in neutral, etc, but nothing happens. It doesn't even try to turn over. I'll press the button a few times, try turning the key on and off, and eventually, it'll start cranking and fire right up. I don't know if there's a short somewhere, but this seems fairly random. It doesn't seem to matter if the bike is really cold, been running for hours, or anything in between. It's a moderate inconvenience at this point, but if I stalled out in an intersection, it might be a bit more of an issue. Anyone else had this happen?
Yeah, I'd bypass the safety switches on the clutch and sidestand. If that doesn't fix it, take a look inside your starter button. It's very simple inside. It might just be dirty contacts.

Are your lights coming on with the key turned? If not, you may have an issue with your battery cables or keyswitch.
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:58 PM   #70892
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You can still go ahead and get the front Tubliss set up, Myself, most of my flats have been pinch flats up front with tubes. Since switching over to the Tubliss set up on my KTM 450 I've only had one flat in 3.5 years and I actually rode 70 miles at 60 MPH back home to fix it. Got a front setup I plan on putting on my DR when I change the tire.
Thanks for the good words on Tubliss. If I didn't have three good 17" tires setting around for the rear, I'd consider converting to an 18" rear wheel.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:02 PM   #70893
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Which reminds me, I am searching for a BSA B50 rear wheel if anyone has one....
Friend of ours who let us try this out today has a number of BSA/Triumph/CCM singles. He might have a spare.

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Old 11-11-2012, 07:05 PM   #70894
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Any bicycle shop will sell you a small high pressure (low volume) pump for a few bucks.
Bicycle tools, including pumps, have become extremely good for little money. It's like the accessory manufacturers have had a contest to see who can make the best quality, light weight stuff for a low price. Competition is keen in the bicycle world. Many quality pumps out there, fold up small but can do 150psi, for not much $$. Just buy a brand name.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:15 PM   #70895
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What is the position of the side stand? Does your neutral light work?
Side stand being up or down doesn't seem to make a difference. I usually notice it in the mornings when I'm trying to start the bike to let it warm up, but it happens plenty of times when I've just turned off the bike for a minute while talking with someone. The neutral light does work, yes.


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Yeah, I'd bypass the safety switches on the clutch and sidestand. If that doesn't fix it, take a look inside your starter button. It's very simple inside. It might just be dirty contacts.

Are your lights coming on with the key turned? If not, you may have an issue with your battery cables or keyswitch.
I'll look up some how-to's on ditching those safety switches. I don't believe I've yet even tried to take off on a bike with the side stand down, so that's probably okay to ditch at this point. All the lights and everything fire right up with the key, and if it helps, I've also replaced the battery within the last month, and that didn't seem to make any difference.

Honestly, all of the switchgear on my bike needs a thorough cleaning or something. The turn signal switch is...gummy I guess. It sticks a lot and takes a few tries to cancel. The horn works once a week or so, and the kill switch doesn't like to pop back out once pressed in. Some electrical grease and an afternoon might be the cure for what ails me this time.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:36 PM   #70896
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Honestly, all of the switchgear on my bike needs a thorough cleaning or something... gummy... It sticks a lot... takes a few tries to cancel... The horn works once a week or so... the kill switch doesn't like to pop back out once pressed in...
I think you've answered your own question there,
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Old 11-12-2012, 03:34 AM   #70897
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So, I have an interesting issue that's been plaguing me since I bought the bike. I'm having a problem getting the bike to start. I'll push the starter button with the key in and on. The clutch is in, the bike is in neutral, etc, but nothing happens. It doesn't even try to turn over. I'll press the button a few times, try turning the key on and off, and eventually, it'll start cranking and fire right up. I don't know if there's a short somewhere, but this seems fairly random. It doesn't seem to matter if the bike is really cold, been running for hours, or anything in between. It's a moderate inconvenience at this point, but if I stalled out in an intersection, it might be a bit more of an issue. Anyone else had this happen?
If you want to try the real lazymans approach first......squirt some WD-40 into all the switches and work them....the side stand switch, clutch switch, ignition switch, starter button, kill switch etc. Its a good habit to get into, and you'd be amazed what that will fix. I've did it MANY times over the years to switches on my bikes and others that were acting up, and they lasted forever afterwards. It also keeps switches working well if done on a regular basis.....which reminds me, I need to give some of my switches their annual spray
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:59 AM   #70898
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I did this with my horn button. It wasn't working, I sprayed some WD-40 into the horn button, and it's been working for the past 8 months.


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If you want to try the real lazymans approach first......squirt some WD-40 into all the switches and work them....the side stand switch, clutch switch, ignition switch, starter button, kill switch etc. Its a good habit to get into, and you'd be amazed what that will fix. I've did it MANY times over the years to switches on my bikes and others that were acting up, and they lasted forever afterwards. It also keeps switches working well if done on a regular basis.....which reminds me, I need to give some of my switches their annual spray
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:33 AM   #70899
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The people here seem to know more about ADVRider site than most, so I'll ask:

Does anyone remember a post somewhere on ADVRider that compares weights of different dualsport bikes?
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:34 AM   #70900
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A friend bought a used KTM 400 with a Tubliss set up, front and rear. The problem with it, is that you have to air up every time you go riding. The 100 psi sealing ring leaks down after a day or so. Try finding a 100psi hose on an adventure camping ride. It's really for offroad competition IMO, to prevent tubes getting pinch flats in a race.

He took them off the bike in less than a month.
I have to air mine up about as often as I do my tubed bikes. I use the same MTN bike pump on my Tubliss bladder as I do on my tubed tires. Don't need a 100 PSI hose.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:56 AM   #70901
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I have to air mine up about as often as I do my tubed bikes. I use the same MTN bike pump on my Tubliss bladder as I do on my tubed tires. Don't need a 100 PSI hose.
I wonder if his had a problem. He's the only person that I ever knew who had them.

He got the with a used bike and he figured that was how they were.

This is a good time to ask, what is a good, reasonably priced compact tire pump that can be carried in a tool pack. My old "Double Shot" is. well: Shot.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:00 AM   #70902
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If you want to try the real lazymans approach first......squirt some WD-40 into all the switches and work them....the side stand switch, clutch switch, ignition switch, starter button, kill switch etc. Its a good habit to get into, and you'd be amazed what that will fix. I've did it MANY times over the years to switches on my bikes and others that were acting up, and they lasted forever afterwards. It also keeps switches working well if done on a regular basis.....which reminds me, I need to give some of my switches their annual spray
Sounds like my kind of plan there. To the garage!
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:24 AM   #70903
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I wonder if his had a problem. He's the only person that I ever knew who had them.

He got the with a used bike and he figured that was how they were.

This is a good time to ask, what is a good, reasonably priced compact tire pump that can be carried in a tool pack. My old "Double Shot" is. well: Shot.
I got this one last year. It's the best I've found.
http://www.lezyne.com/products/hand-...e#!Alloy-Drive
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Old 11-12-2012, 08:52 AM   #70904
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The people here seem to know more about ADVRider site than most, so I'll ask:

Does anyone remember a post somewhere on ADVRider that compares weights of different dualsport bikes?

This one?

http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...ghlight=weight
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Old 11-12-2012, 09:22 AM   #70905
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The people here seem to know more about ADVRider site than most, so I'll ask:

Does anyone remember a post somewhere on ADVRider that compares weights of different dualsport bikes?
I know I've seen many threads with weights listed. Some are of all ADV bikes (large and small), others just dual sport singles.

You may even find that info right on this thread ... but good luck tracking it down. That info would be good for your DR650 Index thread ... a quick and easy to find comparo! I hope you can include all the 600 class KTM's and Huskies too. They are, in fact, much heavier than most want to admit to. If I run across a good list of weights I'll PM the link to you.
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