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Old 11-11-2012, 10:05 AM   #70906
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Eh? Wrong Again. Shocking, eh?

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We don't include it because not everyone will need one. If the shock is only a couple years old or less the bumper and seal head are probably perfectly fine. Riders with older shocks can add the seal head and bumper if they need them.

The photo above is the shaft assembly. You can see the rebound adjustment knob at the bottom. It does come with a new bumper.
Ah, my mistake.
I make several each day...

I thought mrprez was saying that he had bought your $279 "Shock Solution Kit".

I wondered why the bottom of his shock looked different. Duh!

He got your "Shock Shaft Assembly" ($498) so it is very similar to a Cogent shock.

Thanks for clarifying that.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:14 AM   #70907
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Bluhduh Even more shocking!

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I thought the shaft shaft assy ($498) was complete and all that was needed was to add nitrogen, nothing to rebuild?
Direct from ProCycle, our favorite parts supplier:

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Shock Shaft Assembly with Rebound Adjustment

Replace the internal components in your shock with a completely updated design with adjustments for both compression and rebound damping.

The new shaft assembly has improved valving for both compressing and rebound, a thicker, stronger shaft, new seal head and bottoming bumper. Comes as a complete assembly ready to go into your shock body and includes your choice of rear spring (required). Other spring rates available by special order - call.
Unless I am wrong (again) you get all new INTERNALS but you have to take your shock apart and put it back together.

That is where mrprez helped out by saying it only took him 2 hours to do the job.

Now, back to juggling apples and oranges and bananas.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:18 AM   #70908
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Direct from ProCycle, our favorite parts supplier:

Unless I am wrong (again) you get all new INTERNALS but you have to take your shock apart and put it back together.

That is where mrprez helped out by saying it only took him 2 hours to do the job.

Now, back to juggling apples and oranges and bananas.
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Old 11-11-2012, 10:45 AM   #70909
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I don't think you will regret having Rick do both ends. He did mine last year and I have been VERY satisfied with it. I could probably still see more improvement from a fork swap, but the resprung front forks with Racetech emulators are fine for me. The Cogent rebuild on the rear is outstanding.

Plus Rick and Joyce are great people!


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Thanks for the info on the Cogent vs PC shock. I'll go with Cogent. I'm going to send him my fork tubes too and have him do the work to them as well. Figure if the bike is gonna be down for a few weeks, might as well have both ends done.

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Old 11-11-2012, 11:06 AM   #70910
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A friend bought a used KTM 400 with a Tubliss set up, front and rear. The problem with it, is that you have to air up every time you go riding. The 100 psi sealing ring leaks down after a day or so. Try finding a 100psi hose on an adventure camping ride. It's really for offroad competition IMO, to prevent tubes getting pinch flats in a race.

He took them off the bike in less than a month.
i have tubliss on my berg 390 and pretty much agree with your friend.......ive left the front on however cuz i can feel the benefit and just figure i have to pump it up after a few days of riding or if it has sat for a few weeks......i wouldnt use them on my DR650......
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:35 AM   #70911
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I don't think you will regret having Rick do both ends. He did mine last year and I have been VERY satisfied with it. I could probably still see more improvement from a fork swap, but the resprung front forks with Racetech emulators are fine for me. The Cogent rebuild on the rear is outstanding.

Plus Rick and Joyce are great people!

I have the Cogent shock on my bike, and Intiminators up front. Very satisfied for my riding needs. Rick from Cogent also has a cartridge upgrade for the stock forks as another option.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:37 AM   #70912
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Sorry my fault. I did get the entire shaft assembly not the solution kit. I used the solution kit on the front forks.
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Old 11-11-2012, 11:40 AM   #70913
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. Try finding a 100psi hose on an adventure camping ride.
Any bicycle shop will sell you a small high pressure (low volume) pump for a few bucks.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:22 PM   #70914
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Starting problems

So, I have an interesting issue that's been plaguing me since I bought the bike. I'm having a problem getting the bike to start. I'll push the starter button with the key in and on. The clutch is in, the bike is in neutral, etc, but nothing happens. It doesn't even try to turn over. I'll press the button a few times, try turning the key on and off, and eventually, it'll start cranking and fire right up. I don't know if there's a short somewhere, but this seems fairly random. It doesn't seem to matter if the bike is really cold, been running for hours, or anything in between. It's a moderate inconvenience at this point, but if I stalled out in an intersection, it might be a bit more of an issue. Anyone else had this happen?
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:39 PM   #70915
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So, I have an interesting issue that's been plaguing me since I bought the bike. I'm having a problem getting the bike to start. I'll push the starter button with the key in and on. The clutch is in, the bike is in neutral, etc, but nothing happens. It doesn't even try to turn over. I'll press the button a few times, try turning the key on and off, and eventually, it'll start cranking and fire right up. I don't know if there's a short somewhere, but this seems fairly random. It doesn't seem to matter if the bike is really cold, been running for hours, or anything in between. It's a moderate inconvenience at this point, but if I stalled out in an intersection, it might be a bit more of an issue. Anyone else had this happen?
What is the position of the side stand? Does your neutral light work?
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:43 PM   #70916
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So, I have an interesting issue that's been plaguing me since I bought the bike. I'm having a problem getting the bike to start. I'll push the starter button with the key in and on. The clutch is in, the bike is in neutral, etc, but nothing happens. It doesn't even try to turn over. I'll press the button a few times, try turning the key on and off, and eventually, it'll start cranking and fire right up. I don't know if there's a short somewhere, but this seems fairly random. It doesn't seem to matter if the bike is really cold, been running for hours, or anything in between. It's a moderate inconvenience at this point, but if I stalled out in an intersection, it might be a bit more of an issue. Anyone else had this happen?
Yeah, I'd bypass the safety switches on the clutch and sidestand. If that doesn't fix it, take a look inside your starter button. It's very simple inside. It might just be dirty contacts.

Are your lights coming on with the key turned? If not, you may have an issue with your battery cables or keyswitch.
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Old 11-11-2012, 06:58 PM   #70917
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You can still go ahead and get the front Tubliss set up, Myself, most of my flats have been pinch flats up front with tubes. Since switching over to the Tubliss set up on my KTM 450 I've only had one flat in 3.5 years and I actually rode 70 miles at 60 MPH back home to fix it. Got a front setup I plan on putting on my DR when I change the tire.
Thanks for the good words on Tubliss. If I didn't have three good 17" tires setting around for the rear, I'd consider converting to an 18" rear wheel.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:02 PM   #70918
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Which reminds me, I am searching for a BSA B50 rear wheel if anyone has one....
Friend of ours who let us try this out today has a number of BSA/Triumph/CCM singles. He might have a spare.

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Old 11-11-2012, 07:05 PM   #70919
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Any bicycle shop will sell you a small high pressure (low volume) pump for a few bucks.
Bicycle tools, including pumps, have become extremely good for little money. It's like the accessory manufacturers have had a contest to see who can make the best quality, light weight stuff for a low price. Competition is keen in the bicycle world. Many quality pumps out there, fold up small but can do 150psi, for not much $$. Just buy a brand name.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:15 PM   #70920
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What is the position of the side stand? Does your neutral light work?
Side stand being up or down doesn't seem to make a difference. I usually notice it in the mornings when I'm trying to start the bike to let it warm up, but it happens plenty of times when I've just turned off the bike for a minute while talking with someone. The neutral light does work, yes.


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Yeah, I'd bypass the safety switches on the clutch and sidestand. If that doesn't fix it, take a look inside your starter button. It's very simple inside. It might just be dirty contacts.

Are your lights coming on with the key turned? If not, you may have an issue with your battery cables or keyswitch.
I'll look up some how-to's on ditching those safety switches. I don't believe I've yet even tried to take off on a bike with the side stand down, so that's probably okay to ditch at this point. All the lights and everything fire right up with the key, and if it helps, I've also replaced the battery within the last month, and that didn't seem to make any difference.

Honestly, all of the switchgear on my bike needs a thorough cleaning or something. The turn signal switch is...gummy I guess. It sticks a lot and takes a few tries to cancel. The horn works once a week or so, and the kill switch doesn't like to pop back out once pressed in. Some electrical grease and an afternoon might be the cure for what ails me this time.
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