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Old 11-16-2012, 12:26 AM   #71146
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Something's wrong Frank. I have chicks jumpin' on my DR at stop lights all the time.

yeah right
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:17 AM   #71147
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Hello,

Man, would I like to join you in Death Valley. Great time of year.

I cannot due to the fact that you helped me lower my dr so low,( thanks, perfect.flex is all gone) , that the ambient temperature related to the low altitude and high frequency of my ass falling over the bars on evenly spaced bumps will dampen my spirits.
Thus I will stay home in hot oscillating bubbling water and drink some spirits instead.
I hope you have something other to ride than a slinky, oops, dr650.
Have a wonderful time from all.

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this thread is starting to get fun ...........good stuff Heir
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:28 AM   #71148
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Alright guys, I'm outta here!
For anyone who's interested here's a link to the SPOT tracking page

http://share.findmespot.com/shared/f...jBGuarSOcaHZNc
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Old 11-16-2012, 05:59 AM   #71149
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There is no frame flex problem.





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+1. whatever problem johnkol is having w/his bike he has mis-diagnosed it, imo he should try one that has been properly set up, and doesn't have a cracked weld/tube/etc... his bike is obviously bone-stock, and/or has other unknown issues...

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Old 11-16-2012, 06:28 AM   #71150
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+1. whatever problem johnkol is having w/his bike he has mis-diagnosed it, imo he should try one that has been properly set up, and doesn't have a cracked weld/tube/etc... his bike is obviously bone-stock, and/or has other unknown issues...

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+2
I'm certainly not an engineer but, some of his technical assertions are highly suspect. JMHO
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Old 11-16-2012, 06:32 AM   #71151
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+1. whatever problem johnkol is having w/his bike he has mis-diagnosed it, imo he should try one that has been properly set up, and doesn't have a cracked weld/tube/etc... his bike is obviously bone-stock, and/or has other unknown issues...

doug s.
Yup, anyone that is going to complain about the bike's handling while not first addressing the woefully inadequate suspension is someone not to be taken seriously.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:33 AM   #71152
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I'd rather leave it as is and enjoy it for what it is: a cheap, reliable machine.
I think we are done here.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:56 AM   #71153
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You need to look at the manual again!!!! Only adjustment at the bottom of the stock shock is a extra hole to lower the bike.

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No, the stock shock only has compression damping; rebound damping is controlled by a collar at the bottom of the shock assembly. You can take a look at the manual if you don't believe me.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:15 AM   #71154
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Motorcycles are like women, to be enjoyed in quantity!

I understand, I'm running low at the time.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:31 AM   #71155
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Wish I lived in the Bay area because it sounds like there will be a used one on Craigslist soon and should go cheap since the owner hates it.

TravelGuy
I was thinking the same thing. Hell it might be worth buying his pos and shipping it to Texas.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:41 AM   #71156
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Question.

Is it ok for me to speek freely on this thread?

Please please please say yes.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:45 AM   #71157
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Indeed. It means that have not yet figured out that it would be best if they got away from the idea of using closed loop at all.Closed loop is completely unnecessary in order to have the proper fuel mixture at varying air densities and temperatures.

Regards,

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It sounds like they've fixed a lot of the physical fitment issues with the kit but if they say this:

"Note: for DR650, we are still optimizing the close loop fuel. This motor does not like 14.7 AFR in many cases."

then it's not really PnP yet. For most users on this forum, switching between different tuning maps to find the one that works for you should be a very simple process. Getting the tuners to make those maps optimized for the engine is the part that will be out of most people's comfort zone. And if you aren't able to run in closed loop then you aren't getting the benefits that will allow you to run at various altitudes and temperatures in a way that maximizes mpg and power.

I work for a tiny company that makes hardware for reflashing car computers and we also write software for tuners working on Subaru and Mitsubishi, but we very carefully stay away from the tuning. Too much customer support at
that end of the equation :)
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Indeed. It means that have not yet figured out that it would be best if they got away from the idea of using closed loop at all.Closed loop is completely unnecessary in order to have the proper fuel mixture at varying air densities and temperatures.

Regards,

Derek
perhaps you guys did not read the contents of the email exchange i had w/ecotrons only a coupla days ago? where he said it's now wirtually plug-n-play? it's far more likely that the website has not been updated yet; and is something that can easily be confirmed, for those who might be interested. matt from ecotrons was wery responsive to my emails...

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Old 11-16-2012, 09:48 AM   #71158
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Question.

Is it ok for me to speak freely on this thread?

Please please please say yes.
ok - "yes". now, don't go breaking all the site rules....

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Old 11-16-2012, 09:52 AM   #71159
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Motorcycles are like women, to be enjoyed in quantity!
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I understand, I'm running low at the time.
running low? women or bikes?

and, quality is still important, imo, even when going for quantity.

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Old 11-16-2012, 10:17 AM   #71160
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DR650 breaks off drain plug @ 2:10 vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13cR80h-QNo&feature=plcp
What skidplate are (were) you running?
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