the DR650 thread

[sjourn]

Tried to look up this info but found none, so here goes..

Any difference from the 07 model and 08 model? I'm getting the 08 model.

Please bear with me as I've lost touch in motor cycling for the last 10 years..

[Klay]

Originally Posted by sjourn

Tried to look up this info but found none, so here goes..

Any difference from the 07 model and 08 model? I'm getting the 08 model.

Please bear with me as I've lost touch in motor cycling for the last 10 years..

No difference except for color changes.

[Rusty Rocket]

Originally Posted by redfishguide

Try a DR 350 wheel that's what I'm running. Had to change the brake rotor and you might have to drill the rotor bolt holes. Other wise it's a direct bolt on. Plus the wheel I'm using has rim locks.

Jack

+1. I too have a DR350 rear wheel. I bought a stock 650 rotor. The odd thing is the stock 650 bolts are too long. the rotor isn't tight against the hub when the bolts are tight. I am likely going to flip the rotor over so the holes aren't counter bored. That or I have to remove some aluminum from the hub bolt holes.

[Bmxencourt]

Hey all, after a year and a half decesion I purchased a new 07' 650 three days ago and I love it. I have always been a Honda man and took a chance because of all the info on this thread but it realy paid off, what a great bike. Thanks to all of you for the great info. I have a concern however. I got back last night and the exhaust was glowing red. I know they probably come lean but is this normal? Should I wait till it is broken in to rejet? I am at 600' in California. Thanks Todd

[2slo]

So I did a track day this past Saturday at little Talladega http://www.tgprace.com/ on my 07 DR with the stock trail wings having about 2800 miles on them. It was a hoot and a half even though I was slow. The TWs have more grip than I would have expected and the DR will motor pretty good if you remember to short shift it. I didn't drag any knees or pegs but it was fun, fun, fun.

2slo - living up to my handle everyday

[bing]

Originally Posted by That Aussie Guy

So? Are we all supposed to be impressed or what? I am guessing this was also on a public road?
I am just so thankfull that the ADV riders I hang with are not total fuckwit losers like you mate! Its arseholes like you who give real riders a bad name. Riding that that though, it won't be too long before you are just a red smear on the landscape!

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.



160kph - second gear on some bikes...

[boother]

Originally Posted by bing

160kph - second gear on some bikes...

You get that out of a DR650 someone must dropped you out of an airplane while you were switchin gears!!

I do love my DR but I have to admit I kinda miss a bike that was capable of that sort of insanity. Budgeted for the next one for Christmas and I kinda like the Triumph Street Triple. That or a KTM 950/990. We shall see. But I'll never give up my DR its perfect for almost every day. Sort of like getting a mistress but much easier on the wallet in the long run and maybe more fun!!

[AWM]

Originally Posted by Bmxencourt

Hey all, after a year and a half decesion I purchased a new 07' 650 three days ago and I love it. I have always been a Honda man and took a chance because of all the info on this thread but it realy paid off, what a great bike. Thanks to all of you for the great info. I have a concern however. I got back last night and the exhaust was glowing red. I know they probably come lean but is this normal? Should I wait till it is broken in to rejet? I am at 600' in California. Thanks Todd

I'd fatten it up a little!Red is not a good color for a tail pipe.Atleast ask the dealer whats up.Wouldn't want to burn a hole in the piston!
Good luck with it,and welcome to the world of DR.

[Stromdog]

Originally Posted by Bmxencourt

Hey all, after a year and a half decesion I purchased a new 07' 650 three days ago and I love it. I have always been a Honda man and took a chance because of all the info on this thread but it realy paid off, what a great bike. Thanks to all of you for the great info. I have a concern however. I got back last night and the exhaust was glowing red. I know they probably come lean but is this normal? Should I wait till it is broken in to rejet? I am at 600' in California. Thanks Todd

Most bikes come jetted too lean in order to meet emissions requirements. They flow plenty of air compared to fuel. Keeps the pollution numbers low and in compliance with Federal regs. When I bought my '05 DL 1000, I knew I would have to re map its fuel injection system as most reports on the bike indicated it was running too lean. I put a Power Commander on it and a decent fuel map almost right away. It made a world of difference, as I knew it would . My '02 1200S Bandit was the same way. World of difference. More power, cooler running.

I just purchased a lightly used 07 DR 650 w/2900 mi on it. Box stock bike (lowered but I've put it back to stock). I've only put a few hundred miles on the bike, but can feel the motor starving for fuel. It seems to run hot. I'm going to throw in a good jet kit and airbox mod (and maybe a different mid-pipe and can), as soon as I get back from a trip to Germany and Austria I'm leaving for tomorrow morning.

I am quite certain that this will open up the motor, allow it to run cooler and deliver more power. All good things IMHO.

P.S. I did alot of research on this and other sites as well as owners that were riding this bike on long trips that I met while I was touring on my Strom. I think I chose well. I haven't had this much fun on a bike in a long time. It'll handle 70 mph (actual) cruising on the highway, no problem, and should be able to take any sane person just about anywhere else with great reliability and in reasonable comfort. Except for that seat! Youch!

[Tantrum]

Originally Posted by Bmxencourt

Hey all, after a year and a half decesion I purchased a new 07' 650 three days ago and I love it. I have always been a Honda man and took a chance because of all the info on this thread but it realy paid off, what a great bike. Thanks to all of you for the great info. I have a concern however. I got back last night and the exhaust was glowing red. I know they probably come lean but is this normal? Should I wait till it is broken in to rejet? I am at 600' in California. Thanks Todd

Welcome to IMHO, the best bike ever!
I was concerned when the same thing happened on my completely stock DR 200 w/800mi on it. I had never before seen the glow because I'd never looked at the exhaust (down by the engine) in the dark after a hard ride at very high RPM. I asked my M.engineer DSing friend about it and he did'nt say it indicated any "red flags."The bike is still stock, the exhaust get's that hot and over 7,000 mi later the bike is better than new. I have not noticed the glow on my rejetted DR650 but, IMHO, I don't believe a glowing exhaust is an indication of trouble in the future.

Originally Posted by awm

I'd fatten it up a little!Red is not a good color for a tail pipe.Atleast ask the dealer whats up.Wouldn't want to burn a hole in the piston!
Good luck with it,and welcome to the world of DR.

Am I correct in thinking he's describing a glowing exhaust pipe and not the tail pipe? Extreme temp is what causes the exhaust pipe (down by the engine)to turn blue/black and it's pretty normal. If he's talking about a red hot tail pipe I'd have to agree- that's an unwanted phenomenon .

[Lone Rider]

Originally Posted by Rusty Rocket

+1. I too have a DR350 rear wheel. I bought a stock 650 rotor. The odd thing is the stock 650 bolts are too long. the rotor isn't tight against the hub when the bolts are tight. I am likely going to flip the rotor over so the holes aren't counter bored. That or I have to remove some aluminum from the hub bolt holes.

Maybe either cut those bolts and rethread, or just find shorter ones.
I'd keep the counter sink, if possible.

[Bmxencourt]

Yes, it is the lower exhaust pipe, not the tail pipe. I pannicked and ordered the dyno jet kit from Kientech, realy nice people. Thank you all for the replies. I will now go and enjoy my new ride.

[Rusty Rocket]

Steel doesn't start glowing red til around 900*F. I don't know what an ideal exhaust gas temp is, but lower than that would be a safe bet.

[Klay]

Originally Posted by Tantrum

I was concerned when the same thing happened on my completely stock DR 200 w/800mi on it. I had never before seen the glow because I'd never looked at the exhaust (down by the engine) in the dark after a hard ride at very high RPM.

Sometimes in the winter (when it's below freezing out) I'll give the DR200 a little more warmup time sitting at fast idle. After dark, I've noticed that the header pipe will get hot enough to glow dull red.

The BMW boxer twins I've owned in the past would glow dull red under similar circumstances.

All of these motors were well tuned with the stock jetting. They lasted a lifetime. The DR200 has 11,000 miles on it now with the stock jetting.

Therefore, I think it's safe to say that occasional extreme heat in the header pipe is normal and not damaging.

[sjourn]

Originally Posted by Klay

No difference except for color changes.

Thanks mate, just got the bike today. I'm a happy rider once again.