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Old 12-18-2012, 07:53 AM   #71986
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I like the exhaust tone of the OEM canister...

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Old 12-18-2012, 07:56 AM   #71987
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If I was making more money selling a particular exhaust system, I'm sure that I could justify it with charts/pulses/stats; who wouldn't? All I know is that I am fully satisfied with my mediocre, relatively quiet, non packable, stock-appearing though obviously inferior to the aftermarket,GSXR pipe.
I have a SuperTrapp IDS II w/ quiet core,that I was running with 6 discs. I put my stock silencer back on and I'm sooo happy with the quiet that it's staying. (been a bout 2 years now). I really couldn't feel the difference , in a "seat of the pants test". The only real benefit for me with the SuperTrapp was the weight savings up high. ('bout 8 lbs)
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:02 AM   #71988
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thanks Jeff,

While your on the forum, I was curious if you ever bought Jays (jaminglobal) former motor which he blew up but was reconditioned just prior to his misfortune??

It would be good to know if this motor got back up and running and I remember reading you were going to buy it?? Not sure if you did though.

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Yup, I took Jay's old motor and built the first 780 2 years ago which is still in my main bike. It's never been apart since the original build, still runs very strong and doesn't use any oil.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:09 AM   #71989
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I'm thinking of raising the handlebars through handlebars alone, not risers.

Anyone happen to know how much higher the CR high bar style would ride over the stock modern DR650 bars? I've measured based on specs I've seen, but it looks like they wouldn't be enough of a rise to justify those over a higher design if I wanted to avoid risers.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:15 AM   #71990
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I think you guys are missing a point: an engine is nothing more than an air pump.

How much air per pulse really has nothing to do with HP numbers; only dB.

Also, on a side note. When designing or selecting an air filter they recommend a filter that flows 2 times the air the engine requires.
Oh I get it. I was trying to explain that HP doesn't have all that much to do with how the exhaust is restricted.
The point is that a bunch of small pulses can slip through a restriction easier than one big pulse.
And of course a big pulse takes more "processing" inside the muffler to get the required 80dB sound level.

This applies to intake through the airbox too which is why the DR responds so well to opening up the airbox.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:18 AM   #71991
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I'm thinking of raising the handlebars through handlebars alone, not risers.

Anyone happen to know how much higher the CR high bar style would ride over the stock modern DR650 bars? I've measured based on specs I've seen, but it looks like they wouldn't be enough of a rise to justify those over a higher design if I wanted to avoid risers.
CR high bars will be about 1/2" to 3/4" taller than stock DR bars. Not much but enough to feel the difference.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:23 AM   #71992
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CR high bars will be about 1/2" to 3/4" taller than stock DR bars. Not much but enough to feel the difference.
Thank you, I'll probably go higher with some other bar bend then.
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:23 AM   #71993
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I'm thinking of raising the handlebars through handlebars alone, not risers.

Anyone happen to know how much higher the CR high bar style would ride over the stock modern DR650 bars? I've measured based on specs I've seen, but it looks like they wouldn't be enough of a rise to justify those over a higher design if I wanted to avoid risers.
Check here:

http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/Ha...r-Measurements
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Old 12-18-2012, 08:56 AM   #71994
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I'm thinking of raising the handlebars through handlebars alone, not risers.

Anyone happen to know how much higher the CR high bar style would ride over the stock modern DR650 bars? I've measured based on specs I've seen, but it looks like they wouldn't be enough of a rise to justify those over a higher design if I wanted to avoid risers.

Edited: Look into ATV bends. I thought the ATV bends were really narrow but I was wrong. They look to have the most rise.

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Old 12-18-2012, 09:02 AM   #71995
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Nicely done. I just put that same front fender on in my change over from blue to all white. Same Gen II Wolfman set up, too.

Thanks! I've noticed the polisport fender is a lot more aerodynamic than the original. It should allow a lot more air to get to the oil cooler, too.

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Looks amazing! So what headlight are you running on it? It almost looks like you took the light off a KLX250.
Close... It's a Kawasaki KX450r (2009) headlamp. It looks a lot better than the stock 90's style dirtbike fairing.

It was a fairly straightforward mod. Just had to relocate the indicator lamps and turn signals, reverse the front turn signal brackets, and make a simple bracket out of some 1" aluminum angle stock. A handful of bushing/bolts/washers puts it all together.

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The KX450R headlamp/fairing is a bit smaller than the KLX one, but still allows for a lot of spare room behind the shroud for the wiring harness and any other cabling.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:14 AM   #71996
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Edited: Look into ATV bends. I thought the ATV bends were really narrow but I was wrong. They look to have the most rise.

Thanks guys - an ATV bend was what I was looking at last week. That site's listing of specs all together is pretty cool for the handlebars, but I've been downloading PDF's too. I had one picked out that I think was about 155mm high, but can't remember who made it now. Some ATV bars wouldn't work well due to the angles the wrists would be at, so I'm trying to be careful about that.

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Old 12-18-2012, 09:31 AM   #71997
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I use the Protaper ATV high bars, have on 3 bikes, a great dual sport bar.
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Old 12-18-2012, 09:46 AM   #71998
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It took a few months, but I finally got my ugly stock '06 DR to look less like a giant banana :

What can you tell us about your headlight and cowl? Does not look stock ...
I like it! EDIT~ sorry, just read your above post! Thanks ... very nice looking upgrade to the DR650!

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Old 12-18-2012, 10:12 AM   #71999
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The KLR will be much more like the 1150GS. If all you're doing is commuting with some light dirt and gravel roads, I would recommend the KLR over the DR. The KLR is going to be a much better commuting/highway machine as the wind protection is noticeably better. If you're just doing dirt roads and fire roads, the DR doesn't exactly walk away from the KLR. The guy I used to ride with was on a KLR for a couple years before upgrading to a Tiger 800, and I was never really able to get away from him when I was on the DR. When the trails got tighter and more technical, I had the advantage, but I would gladly have traded bikes as soon as we got back on the pavement.
I would not really equate the KLR to the R1150GS. Really Apples & Oranges. Think Suzuki Samurai vs. Land Rover.

As I said above, a stock KLR is a better commuter/cargo carrier/two up bike than a stock DR650 ... but the DR is ultimately SMOOTHER than a KLR.

With a few mods to the DR650 you can add good wind protection, better seat, heated grips, lowered pegs and on and on. This brings the DR pretty close to the KLR for commuter/fire road duty. Performance wise you are correct ... pretty close once both have been opened up a bit ...

I prefer my DR650 over a KLR riding high speed highway at speeds around 75 mph. With a properly adjusted/loobed and aligned chain, good cush drive rubbers and bark busters (reduces vibes to hands) the DR is the smoother of the two, in my experience of riding them back to back. Done this with both the pre & post '08 KLR's.
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Old 12-18-2012, 10:20 AM   #72000
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I switched bikes with a friend at an Adventure Ride. He was on a 2003 KLR650 that had been farkled to make it a better trail bike. I was on my equally farlked DR650. It was an easy trail, but an optional "Hero" section. There were a few rocky climbs and some slippery stuff. I couldn't wait to trade back. He said , as we switched back, "I gotta get one of these".

On the road, not a big difference for a one day event. Maybe if the road was 80% of my riding, it would be OK, but I'm 80% trails so the DR is way better for my application.
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