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Old 02-20-2013, 10:03 AM   #73921
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Yeah, for the um-teenth time, an $8 ~ $10 impact driver is all you need. 45 years of cracking open Japanese float bowls and old side cases held by X-head screws, and I never stripped one!
+1 Used my cheapo HF one on my wifes quad over the weekend....float bowl screws. Works like a champ.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:07 AM   #73922
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+1 Used my cheapo HF one on my wifes quad over the weekend....float bowl screws. Works like a champ.
I didn't find it the first time I searched. For $5 why not?
http://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece...set-93481.html
this is the light duty one and actually better than the heavier duty one I posted above.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:04 PM   #73923
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I also just put on a stainless rear brake line.

While I was at it, I noticed how sloppy the clevis/pin area was.
I drilled the clevis and pedal hole to the next larger size (standard 3/8") and put it a new pin.


Much less slop. There is still minor play in the pedal axis...but, I see nothing to do about that.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:59 PM   #73924
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Hey guys, my DR is having a hard time cranking when its cold. 5 or 6 times of holding down the starter for 2-3 seconds before it turns over. Time for a new battery or will a few days on a tender fix this? Its happening every cold morning.
By " ..down the starter for 2-3 seconds before it turns over." do you mean the time before the starter starts turning the engine, or the cranking time before the engine catches and begins firing on it's own?

If it's the latter, it could be that your pilot jets are beginning to clog up with varnish/sludge during storage. This would make your bike run leaner and leaner until the bike no longer starts without extreme choking and playing with the throttle. Today's gas is garbage, full of bunny-hugger ethanol (courtesy of ADM and Cargill) which causes it to separate and decompose into varnish and slime much more quickly than even 15 years ago. This crap slimes up your carb and causes hard starting within even a month or two of storage. The fix is to use lots of Stabil and frequent runs around the block, or a carb teardown and cleaning or replacement of the pilot jet. PITA either way. I use a little extra Stabil, run the bike whenever I can in the winter, and then when it warms up in the spring I add Techron to the last gallon and run the %$@& out of the bike before filling it up and changing the oil for summer use.

About a decade ago my wife had a Suzuki GSF400 Bandit. It was a 400 4-cylinder bike from the early 90s. Ran like a scalded cat above 6K rpms, but would sludge up the pilot circuits if not started every 4 weeks due to Chicago's EPA ethanol gas. I got really adept at pulling all four of those carbs and cleaning out the pilot circuits. 4x. PITA !

My bike has a TM40 carb kit conversion and it jetted to be hard to start without a couple of pumps and full choke when the temps are below 40F. Sometimes in the winter I have to start it a couple of times and play with the throttle a little. Once the bike is warmed up I can release the choke and the bike runs perfectly fine with a decent MPG and no watering eyes from a rich mixture. No surging at all.

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Old 02-20-2013, 04:00 PM   #73925
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I put Lucas fuel treatment http://www.lucasoil.com/products/dis...catid=2&iid=26 in everything I own, every fill up.

It's not a crap petroleum distillate, but rather a oil based (pours out like oil) product with additional cleaners. Fuel (since it is oil after all) use to offer lubrication properties to the fuel pump (if FI), carb/FI. Today's gas is mfg. so dry and even worse has ethanol in it. This product return that lubrication property, plus cleans the fuel system & valves.

I've parked my DR filled with gas & Lucas for up to 3 months at a time and the fuel has not issues as it also works as a stabilizer too. I've been using it for over 10yrs now with great success. I have a small bottle for fill ups and buy it in the gallon containers to save $. Costs maybe .25c, if that, per fill up.

I first found out about when touring on my old CB750. It was air-cooled and carbed (sound familiar?) and jetted lean for high elevations (Colorado). When i took a tour down to the coast and sea level, it run like crap, was real hot and pinged. I know it was way to lean, but no way I was going to rejet.

Went to a parts store and they said try Lucas as it will reduce friction in your lean mixture and help it run better/cooler. Bought a small bottle and no shit it ran well again. Bought a few more bottles to finish the tour and started using it in everything I own.

I'm not a fan of additives at all! This one is different as it's basically lubricating & cleaning oil for gas in 4 strokes used at very low dosages. I add this to my small list of things that truly makes engines work better. Iridium plugs are another.
Works for me.

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By " ..down the starter for 2-3 seconds before it turns over." do you mean the time before the starter starts turning the engine, or the cranking time before the engine catches and begins firing on it's own?

If it's the latter, it could be that your pilot jets are beginning to clog up with varnish/sludge during storage. This would make your bike run leaner and leaner until the bike no longer starts without extreme choking and playing with the throttle. Today's gas is garbage, full of bunny-hugger ethanol (courtesy of ADM and Cargill) which causes it to separate and decompose into varnish and slime much more quickly than even 15 years ago. This crap slimes up your carb and causes hard starting within even a month or two of storage. The fix is to use lots of Stabil and frequent runs around the block, or a carb teardown and cleaning or replacement of the pilot jet. PITA either way. I use a little extra Stabil, run the bike whenever I can in the winter, and then when it warms up in the spring I add Techron to the last gallon and run the %$@& out of the bike before filling it up and changing the oil for summer use.

About a decade ago my wife had a Suzuki GSF400 Bandit. It was a 400 4-cylinder bike from the early 90s. Ran like a scalded cat above 6K rpms, but would sludge up the pilot circuits if not started every 4 weeks due to Chicago's EPA ethanol gas. I got really adept at pulling all four of those carbs and cleaning out the pilot circuits. 4x. PITA !

My bike has a TM40 carb kit conversion and it jetted to be hard to start without a couple of pumps and full choke when the temps are below 40F. Sometimes in the winter I have to start it a couple of times and play with the throttle a little. Once the bike is warmed up I can release the choke and the bike runs perfectly fine with a decent MPG and no watering eyes from a rich mixture. No surging at all.

Good luck,

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Old 02-20-2013, 05:31 PM   #73926
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Ok, an update here on this issue which I posted about on post 70057 around Oct 2012. I sent the Intiminators back to Ricor, as they said they wanted to have a look at them. They opted to rebuild them, part of which involved replacing the oil ring which confirms that it was probably an older version which swelled when soaked in oil.

I reinstalled the Intiminators and have since taken the bike out on some commuting rides, and they are much better. You feel the stiffness of the anti dive, but there is no binding, and the fork always returns to regular ride height (unlike before where it would stick.

So all is good now!
That is good to hear. I've had them installed in mine for about a year or so and am quite pleased.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:31 PM   #73927
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I put Lucas fuel treatment http://www.lucasoil.com/products/dis...catid=2&iid=26 in everything I own, every fill up.

It's not a crap petroleum distillate, but rather a oil based (pours out like oil) product with additional cleaners. Fuel (since it is oil after all) use to offer lubrication properties to the fuel pump (if FI), carb/FI. Today's gas is mfg. so dry and even worse has ethanol in it. This product return that lubrication property, plus cleans the fuel system & valves.

Works for me.
Lucas is fine, but I'd rank Sea Foam over it for all the same reasons based on what I've read.
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:58 PM   #73928
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Lucas is fine, but I'd rank Sea Foam over it for all the same reasons based on what I've read.

I use Sea Foam in everything. It makes my diesel truck run right when I (regularly!) get a bad tank of fuel. I put it in every once in awile, maybe once a month, in any vehical getting regular use. I put in a pretty heavy dose to clean things out and dry up any moisture in the system, but I dont run any the rest of the time. Well thats not true, I add it to most tanks on my DR if I have a can sitting around, but thats just cause I like to spoil her:)
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Old 02-20-2013, 06:25 PM   #73929
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Lucas is fine, but I'd rank Sea Foam over it for all the same reasons based on what I've read.
Sea Foam is good. I used it for years, after a NAPA salesman recommended it, but I've switched to Star Tron. I use it in all the small motors around here, as well as the car if I think it's going to sit for awhile. One reason is you can't overdose it, since it is a fuel itself. Sounds like Lucas Fuel Treatment in that respect.
The Tech/ Mechanic who writes Q & A for RIDER magazine did an excellent write-up of modern fuel problems and how Star Tron works. See February 2013 RIDER, page 56.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:42 PM   #73930
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I use Sea Foam in everything. It makes my diesel truck run right when I (regularly!) get a bad tank of fuel. I put it in every once in awile, maybe once a month, in any vehical getting regular use. I put in a pretty heavy dose to clean things out and dry up any moisture in the system, but I dont run any the rest of the time. Well thats not true, I add it to most tanks on my DR if I have a can sitting around, but thats just cause I like to spoil her:)
Yes to quickly clean thing up i'll use Seafoam too but for every day & all days I put a pure lubricating oil into my gas. Lucas continuously cleans but better yet continuously lubes via the gas. Seafoam just cleans.

Seafoam MSDS:
PALE OIL 40-60% = machine oil or sewing machine oil
NAPTHA 25-35% = gas/a hydrocarbon/Coleman lantern fuel
IPA 10-20% = Iso Propyl Alcohol

or more precise:
-CAS # 64742-54-7:
Hydrotreated heavy paraffinic distillate

Synonyms/Related:
Distillates (Petroleum) , Hydrotreated (Mild) Heavy Paraffinic (9ci)
Hydrotreated heavy paraffinic distillate
Solvent Refined, Hydrotreated Heavy Paraffinic Distillate
http://www.unisource-energy.com/msds...R580CCmsds.pdf


-CAS # 64742-49-0
Hydrotreated Light Straight Run (Petroleum)

Synonyms/Related:
Hydrotreated Light Straight Run (Petroleum)
http://www.citgo.com/WebOther/Produc...aphtholite.pdf

-CAS # 67-63-0
Isopropyl Alcohol

Synonyms: 2-Propanol; sec-propyl alcohol; isopropanol; sec-propanol; dimethylcarbinol
Molecular Weight: 60.10
Chemical Formula: (CH3)2 CHOH
http://www.parchem.com/chemical-supp...ol-001340.aspx
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:49 PM   #73931
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Sea Foam is good. I used it for years, after a NAPA salesman recommended it, but I've switched to Star Tron. I use it in all the small motors around here, as well as the car if I think it's going to sit for awhile. One reason is you can't overdose it, since it is a fuel itself. Sounds like Lucas Fuel Treatment in that respect.
The Tech/ Mechanic who writes Q & A for RIDER magazine did an excellent write-up of modern fuel problems and how Star Tron works. See February 2013 RIDER, page 56.
Star Tron is good too.
I'm not having any ethanol related problems (in any vehicle) when i use Lucas. I pay $26 a gallon http://www.amazon.com/Lucas-10013-Fu.../dp/B000FW7V50 and that lasts me at least 1/2 yr with all my vehicles using it. I think Star Tron costs much more to use plus it's for ethanol issues only yes?, & not continual cleaning & lubrication in the oil & thus fuel pumps, carbs, FI plus valve & piston carbon cleaning. i've looked into my spark plug hole and the top of my piston is clean. i've seen some heavily carboned DR pistons to know this is not always the case.
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:46 PM   #73932
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Yes to quickly clean thing up i'll use Seafoam too but for every day & all days I put a pure lubricating oil into my gas. Lucas continuously cleans but better yet continuously lubes via the gas. Seafoam just cleans.

Seafoam MSDS:
PALE OIL 40-60% = machine oil or sewing machine oil
NAPTHA 25-35% = gas/a hydrocarbon/Coleman lantern fuel
IPA 10-20% = Iso Propyl Alcohol
With the pale oil being at 40 to 60%, I'm not sure how you can claim that it just cleans. I'd bet it lubricates just fine.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:12 AM   #73933
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Holy Crap!!! We've found a way to have an oil thread about the fuel tank.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:18 AM   #73934
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Call me dated, but I have issues about putting anything on or in my bike that says "Lucas" on it.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:46 AM   #73935
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Star Tron is good too.
I'm not having any ethanol related problems (in any vehicle) when i use Lucas. I pay $26 a gallon http://www.amazon.com/Lucas-10013-Fu.../dp/B000FW7V50 and that lasts me at least 1/2 yr with all my vehicles using it. I think Star Tron costs much more to use plus it's for ethanol issues only yes?, & not continual cleaning & lubrication in the oil & thus fuel pumps, carbs, FI plus valve & piston carbon cleaning. i've looked into my spark plug hole and the top of my piston is clean. i've seen some heavily carboned DR pistons to know this is not always the case.
I'm not having any ethanol related problems in any of my vehicles either and all I do is gently caress the rear wheels a little bit before I drive them... And, it's even free!!!!!!!!
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