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Old 02-21-2013, 04:51 PM   #73966
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Thanks Rusty,
Flowbee, I'm new to learnng how to work on bikes, and if I had a chain problem out in the wilderness, I might not know exactly how to fix it, but I at least want the right tools!

More suggestions please.
Over time/miles I've gained 100% confidence that a chain problem is unlikely. The key is having a high quality, properly adjusted chain to start with ... and properly installed Rivet link. In nearly 200,000 miles I've not broken a chain or had a Rivet link fail ... or seen one break in my group of riders.

Got a cheap, worn out chain? Got worn crappy sprockets? Using a poorly installed Clip Type link? In that case you are on your own. Proceed at your own risk.

Carrying a proper chain cutting tool is extra weight I can do without. That said, I do carry a spare master link ... clip type. That is an old habit left over from the "Bad Old Days" of riding ... before Rivet links and DID X Ring chains.

Keep your chain clean, lubed and adjusted, change your sprockets before they are worn out and use a good quality chain.
... you should be just fine.
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:56 PM   #73967
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I am having an issue with the starter button on my 09. Sometimes the button doesn't do anything, it acts like the kickstand is down and in gear, but the kickstand won't be down and it will be in neutral. I try feathering the clutch a bit to see if maybe it's that switch but it just seems to be random..... Is this a common issue with an easy fix?
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:05 PM   #73968
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Thanks for the input folks. I've had good luck also with chains Adv grifter and I carry 1 spare master link. Bergdonk, that is a nice little tool. I wonder if anyone in the states carries something like that?
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:06 PM   #73969
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I recently bought a Motion Pro PBR press tool kit for inclusion on the DR for out of state trips. Dead weight, yes, but I'll admit I'm relatively newish to chains - my last chain driven bike was a CBR1100xx and I didn't take that thing on long trips.

Can you elaborate a little on what you mean by this? Do you then mount it like a clip and wire it?

Thanks.
Chains are night and day better since your 80's CBR Honda. Chains were a disaster back then ... lucky to get 5000 miles out of one.
I'm on my 2nd DID 525 VM-2 X-Ring Chain. First one did 25,000 miles and could have gone another 5K miles if needed. I've used this same chain on previous V-Stroms and Tri Tigers. Excellent. DID now make a new generation X ring chain ... I have not used one yet ... but I'm betting it's a good, long lasting chain like the VM-2 was.
IMHO, no need to wire anything or screw around with clip links. A well done Rivet link is the way to go.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:24 PM   #73970
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Chains are night and day better since your 80's CBR Honda.
The CBR1100XX was sold from 96-'07. Not any more antique than a DR650
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:59 PM   #73971
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The CBR1100XX was sold from 96-'07. Not any more antique than a DR650
Right, A BlackBird. Should have mentioned that right off ... Sorry, I was thinking 80's CB1100F.

http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/hon...100_f_1983.php

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Old 02-21-2013, 06:08 PM   #73972
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Mine did the same thing for a few times, then quit working altogether at the worst possible time. It is a poor design as the "button/lever" hangs down in harm's way. Check the kill switch & all connectors, if it then does not work consistantly, buy a new one!
Or you can buy a momentary mini switch from Radio Shack,fits inside the housing.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:16 PM   #73973
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That said, I do carry a spare master link ... clip type. That is an old habit left over from the "Bad Old Days" of riding ... before Rivet links and DID X Ring chains.
Yeah, I started back when many bikes had 428 chains. Last several times my chain tool was used, it was for someone else.
Just like the mini jumper cables I carry. I'm like AAA for woods bikes.
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:52 PM   #73974
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Yeah, I started back when many bikes had 428 chains. Last several times my chain tool was used, it was for someone else.
Just like the mini jumper cables I carry. I'm like AAA for woods bikes.
OK, so ride behind Russ for free parts with phone numbers when they fall off. Ride in front of Russ when I might break and need tools. Got it
BTW I remember either you or GotDirt pulling out some tools and hardware once for something and one of you had some half links that were pretty cool to use in a jam.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:20 PM   #73975
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Your nanny government in cooperation with personal injury lawyers mandated these to protect you from yourself.
Amen to that.
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Once disconnected you will discover the freedom to start the bike and let it idle on the sidestand.
Mine starts and idles on the sidestand. (but it wouldn't when the NSU was unplugged)
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:44 PM   #73976
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When the light turned, the bike wouldn't move. I got it into neutral and pushed it to to the nearest sidewalk. I thought at first that I had thrown the chain, but when I opened the front sprocket cover, I found that the chain was still in place.
So when you went to pull away did the revs drop as you let the clutch out (something locked in the transmission) or was it like it was in neutral (clutch not engaging)?

Have you tried to roll it backwards in gear with the engine off? This suggestion is not based on any sound mechanical knowledge but rather on my strange primitive understanding of things. If something has jammed and you've been lucky and it hasn't grenaded the engine... I'm thinking roll it backwards and it might come loose and drain out with the oil.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:54 PM   #73977
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Your nanny government in cooperation with personal injury lawyers mandated these to protect you from yourself. Once disconnected you will discover the freedom to start the bike and let it idle on the sidestand.
Lol, I removed all the interlock stuff. Last time I stood there and proudly explained to someone all that I had done and removed and how it was only required to protect idiots from themselves in the first place..... Then I promptly pushed the starter with the bike in gear and clutch out, bike lurched forward, side stand dug in and I nearly dropped the lot.

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Old 02-22-2013, 02:50 AM   #73978
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I carry one of these:


http://terra-x.com.au/chainbreaker/
Check the video to see what it can do.

Best to use, and lightest and smallest I know of, and I've tried a few over the years, including one like Rusty's above.

We not long did a group buy on the Oz sub forum. They are not cheap, but they will not let you down, they just work. They may or may not be available ATM.

I also carry a few masterlinks and some spare chain.
ask them to throw in a couple of extra pins with this one. i had my pin shatter. was at home so no big deal but on the trail that would be a little more serious.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:19 AM   #73979
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ask them to throw in a couple of extra pins with this one. i had my pin shatter. was at home so no big deal but on the trail that would be a little more serious.

Check the website and video, they have a new grub screw designed to do the job now. Very reasonable price in their parts section. Ordered one today. This is one of the good tools for home or trail.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:56 AM   #73980
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I have mine apart, the starter clutch seems noisy and she has an oil leak from the inner generator cover so Rotor has to come off to access that anyway.
Does anyone know, is the rotor bolt left or right hand threaded? I know its tight, I snapped one on a Kawasaki year ago as I didnt realise the thread was a left hand 'clockwise to remove' job.

Thanks, in advance.
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