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Old 03-18-2013, 06:47 PM   #74926
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, Let me tell you about my bad experience with a small store and ordering tires. When my stock tires wore out on my DR I went into this independent store here in Sacramento and ordered a set of tires in person. I had the sizes written out on a piece of paper and gave it to the employee. He proceeded to look up the part numbers and prices, write them on an order slip and order them. I paid for the tires plus shipping and got a receipt that listed the part number but not the tire size.

When the tires arrived the store delivered them to a shop close by for mounting. I rode my bike in and the shop mounted the rear with no problem and then dismounted the old front tire and started to remount the new one but quickly realized that the tire was a 19 inches not 21!!! The shop remounted the old tire and I rode back to the store. The store said I order the wrong tire and they would not refund my $$$. I said "BS here is the order form filled out by your employee and here is my notes on tire size". After a period of heated discussions they refunded my money for the tire but not for shipping - bastards!

The shop on the other hand was great - In the end they only charged me for the one tire mounting - even when I went back to with the correct tire for the front.

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Understood - however, they didn't have the tire they quoted me. They just called and said "we don't have that tire (A Shinko dual sport that was larger) but we do have a road tire" - they didn't tell me that it was a different size. I am not trying to be a d**k about it, they are a small indy shop. I hopefully can work something out... I understand they now have a used tire, but honestly, the fact they put a different size tire on is partially their fault.
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:53 PM   #74927
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What is the "this" you are referring to?Yes. Going to two lift holes halves the life of the slide guide, emulsion tube, slide and possibly jet needle. Enlarging two lift holes to .125" halves the life again.

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By 'this' I meant the extra wear on the slide and the jet needle. Very good to know as I never considered this. Throttle response is somewhat improved with the drilled slide, but before a long trip I may just put a stock slide back in.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:00 PM   #74928
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The store said I order the wrong tire and they would not refund my $$$. I said "BS here is the order form filled out by your employee and here is my notes on tire size". After a period of heated discussions they refunded my money for the tire but not for shipping - bastards!
Damn - that sucks. Hop eyou gave them a lovely Yelp review.

I don't think these guys were doing anything bad intentionally - it was an honest mistake. I should have come in and looked at the other tire, and they should have told me it was a different size. I just hope they have a decent attitude about it.

Honestly, IMHO that's the real sign of a decent shop. How do they act when something goes wrong? Guess I will find out soon.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:43 PM   #74929
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an off idle stumble - harder to get moving, I've stalled it more than once at lower elevations forgetting that it needs more throttle to get moving. ....

Yes my mileage has improved lately. Don't really know why. Not riding it any differently. From a normal 48 ish to about 52 mpg.
I've seen these exact symptoms. The problem turned out to be the plastic washer on the needle was severely worn which was causing the needle to run in a lower (leaner) position. If that's what is happening with your bike you can flip the plastic washer over and be back to the original needle height.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:17 PM   #74930
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Considering the multiple reports of pinging, at least some of which were on a completely stock bike, I would not recommend opening the airbox and jetting lean unless I was able to verify that the engine was in a safe zone with regards to detonation.

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I'm not suggesting jetting leaner than stock or too lean ... but to MATCH stock jetting ... or get close.

When the air box is opened and carb re-jetted, DJ (or other) needle installed, jetting is typically set richer than stock to compensate for the open air box and more free flowing air filter. (IE: from stock 140 Mikuni Main jet to a 160 Dyno Jet main jet)

All I suggest is don't go TOO RICH on the Main jet or needle clip position ... try to match stock jetting. Obviously if pinging occurs ... you've got a problem ... and I'm betting in some cases it's the "loose nut behind the wheel" ! (Lugging?)

I've ridden 3 brand new DR650's ... going back to 1996. No pinging on any of them running mostly regular gas. Also, my riding group now has 6 DR riders ... no pinging reported among that group either. 3 are stock, 3 are opened up and re-jetted. We've ridden together 10 years and about 50,000 miles. Almost always a DR or three on our rides.

But always best to start a bit rich and lean things out step by step. Experts would use a gas analyzer and dyno to get the set up precise. YMMV.
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:25 PM   #74931
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The shop on the other hand was great - In the end they only charged me for the one tire mounting - even when I went back to with the correct tire for the front.
I can see paying someone to change and mount a rear tire ...but honestly, the front is a piece of cake. Do it your self. Once you get it down .... maybe you can tackle the rear tire?
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Old 03-18-2013, 10:14 PM   #74932
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Looking for advice ... my sons' DR got drowned in the Bundaberg floods.. A mate of his took it home and "checked it out" ... I'm not sure what he found but after a few days said it was now OK.
Son rode it home ( a few K's ), then it wouldn't go again.

Here's the question: ... bike shop has looked at it and estimates $3000 to fix it ... WHAT COULD BE WRONG? ... I thought an oil change would resolve the "swim" .... any/all thoughts appreciated.






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Old 03-18-2013, 10:44 PM   #74933
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Looking for advice ... my sons' DR got drowned in the Bundaberg floods.. A mate of his took it home and "checked it out" ... I'm not sure what he found but after a few days said it was now OK.
Son rode it home ( a few K's ), then it wouldn't go again.

Here's the question: ... bike shop has looked at it and estimates $3000 to fix it ... WHAT COULD BE WRONG? ... I thought an oil change would resolve the "swim" .... any/all thoughts appreciated.
Sorry, but not enough information...

Was it making noises when it 'stopped'?
Was it running when son turned it off, or did it die and refuse to re-start?
Did it stop violently or with a "bang"?
What was the $3000 estimate for?
What did the shop say needing fixing?
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:25 PM   #74934
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2013 DR650se NEW WOOT

Im the damn proud owner of a new dr, love this site, just wanted to let yall know that dr350 ims super stock pegs bolt right up to the new 650 and what a damn fine addition to the already damn fine dr. nuff said bout the pegs, got the best rack for the rear and mounted the three gallon black rotopax tool box with locking t bar looks sweet, put oil filter magnet and oil drain plug magnet on it. way more goodies on the way, quickly before the wife notices! postin picks ina few weeks. posted all my new dr350s stuff on this site and sold it all, want to thank all of you that bought it, thats over a grand of goodies for the new zuk. one question, any reason to switch my petcock to the pingle? or just wait till the oem wears out?

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Old 03-18-2013, 11:35 PM   #74935
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one question, any reason to switch my petcock to the pingle? or just wait till the oem wears out?

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I don't get the Pingle love. The manual Yamaha Raptor petcock is $25.

I just installed the stock vacuum petcock on my new Acerbis 5.3 gallon tank. Oh, the petcock has 9 years and 44,323 miles.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:23 AM   #74936
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Reinstein7, Welcome, you will surely enjoy the DR650. I have a Pingel petcock and like it very much. I am sure the Raptor petcock works very well also, and does cost a lot less.

The only reason I like a manual petcock is that is all I have ever had and I understand it and turning it off is automatic for me.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:31 AM   #74937
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Sorry, but not enough information...

Was it making noises when it 'stopped'?
Was it running when son turned it off, or did it die and refuse to re-start?
Did it stop violently or with a "bang"?
What was the $3000 estimate for?
What did the shop say needing fixing?
Thanks for the response, .... that's all I know at the moment, I'll try getting that info asap...may take a few days.

cheers
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:51 AM   #74938
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Is anyone here aware of a year by year comparison of DR650 models since their inception?

Is there a first, second or third generation on these?

If I were looking for newer, is there a model year range that is basically the same as the 2013 model?

EPA Q's:

Has pollution control crept into this model?

Is there a "50 state" model and a "49 state model"?

Thanks!

You might find the answers here somewhere: follow this link and have a look at the DR history pages;

http://dr650.zenseeker.net/
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:35 AM   #74939
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Question What a Shock

Would a '92 RS rear shock absorber fit a '93 RSE? IE, do they share most mechanical parts, or would they each have their own configuration and spares?
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:24 AM   #74940
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I've seen these exact symptoms. The problem turned out to be the plastic washer on the needle was severely worn which was causing the needle to run in a lower (leaner) position. If that's what is happening with your bike you can flip the plastic washer over and be back to the original needle height.
Thanks, Jeff. If I'm going to open it up anyway, think I'll do a complete refresh. Heck, might buy a used carb too and then I can screw with one and still have one I know is going to be OK!
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