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Old 04-15-2013, 01:03 PM   #75841
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I just joined the DR650 club.

This is my first bike that I am using to commute to work and explore the fire roads near my house in East Mesa.

I picked up the bike for really good deal with low miles. This thread has so much info...I might have to take a few days off to read 5,000 pages of posts.

Not sure how to upload pics. Do I need to put them online first, or can I upload straight from the desktop?

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Welcome aboard. Yeah, it's going to take a while to catch up. East Mesa, Where? CO? Pics need to be hosted on-line and then you can link to them. No more uploads.
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:05 PM   #75842
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According the Paul Thede (Race Tech founder) you should be using ALL your suspension travel ... and on severe, high speed hits or big jumps its normal to bottom out the shock. On the DR it would be nice to be using about 75% to 85% of travel in most normal riding conditions. For a good plush ride you want to ride high in the travel for normal road travel ... but the suspension should be able to respond to harsh hits and use MOST of its allowed travel.
+1 Always amazes me when people talk about how undersprung the DR is. Underdamped, yes. But you'd have to be a BIG boy to compress some of these high rate springs people say they need. As a motard I agree you want stiff suspension, as a dual sport bike not so much.
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:22 PM   #75843
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I currently have an 8.1 spring and it's slightly too stiff. I'm using 2/3 to 3/4 of the total travel even when getting a little air (small jumps) from time to time.
This would be more useful if we knew what your weight is.
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:37 PM   #75844
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thanks I may take you up on that. I think I'd be happier with about 7 or 7.2. Of course I am not positive if the spring I have is 8.0. I'm assuming the previous owner is correct. He seemed pretty knowledgabe tho.
For reference, I weigh 210 in riding gear + a 17 pound tailbag. Even on easy pavement rides, I bottom the 6.5 on my Cogent shock. A 7.x is in my plans.

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I just joined the DR650 club.

This is my first bike that I am using to commute to work and explore the fire roads near my house in East Mesa.

I picked up the bike for really good deal with low miles. This thread has so much info...I might have to take a few days off to read 5,000 pages of posts.

Not sure how to upload pics. Do I need to put them online first, or can I upload straight from the desktop?

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Welcome. The easy way to get onboard is just go back 100 pages and start reading. We cover the same subjects over and over, like being lost in The Twilight Zone.
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:47 PM   #75845
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I think I have lurked on the thread long enough to see most of the easy mods to the bike.

I actually decided on the 650, because of all the info here.

The only thing I really plan on doing to the bike now are removing the top chain roller and I am swapping my D606 tires (came with the bike with 2000 miles on them) to Shinko 705's.

I will see how those do on the road.
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:52 PM   #75846
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:52 PM   #75847
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There are many arenas of adventure riding. This bike surely qualifies. I see it as a great ride for jeep trails and gravel roads. Adventure riding doesn't have to been done in foreign countries as I enjoy doing.

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Old 04-15-2013, 01:57 PM   #75848
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This would be more useful if we knew what your weight is.
I'm not looking for input, but thanks.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:02 PM   #75849
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I'm not looking for input, but thanks.
I wasn't going to suggest what you should or should not use, but I'm trying to gauge what spring would be better for me. I have the stock spring and I weigh 200lbs. If a 8.1 is too stiff for you, and you weigh X, it would be just right for me? yes, no?

What do you weigh if you don't mind telling? Thanks
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:06 PM   #75850
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What does that bike have to do with advriding?
Good question Sir!

What is advriding anyway?
What are the requirements?

I think an adv bike is anything you have an adventure on. But, maybe that's just me?

Not that a multi-day trip is required, nor that extra gear be packed along.
Not even leaving the state or country is necessary in my mind.

The Street Tracker is a dirt road bike which is the majority of the riding I do.

No fenders for the show since street trackers, like flat track race bikes don't have fenders.

I do have a front fender for it and a shock sock to protect the rear shock.
I won't be riding it in mud, on rocky trails, or in desert sand though.
I don't have the time available to go for more than one day for a ride so my adventures are much closer to home.

Like one GS rider said, "Anytime I go off a paved road, it IS an adventure".

I do have another DR that is set up for long street trips, trails, sand, rocks and mud.
Big tank, excellent suspension, GSXR pipe, lowered pegs, bar risers, Seat Concepts, saddle bags and most of the same farkles everyone else likes.
But it is tall and heavy just like most DR's.

The street tracker is a "hot rod" not a jeep.

So, if I have only two hours for a ride and there are no trails within two hours but there are lots of dirt roads great for sliding the curves on, which bike will be more of an adventure to ride?

My bike was put in the ADV class at the show because it is a street legal dirt bike and that was the class definition.
So it was in with the BMW's that look ready to travel the world.
And a neat Ducatti that was quite similar to my street tracker, stripped to nothing but with knobbies on the 17" wheels.
That bike has made the D2D run and that is certainly an adventure!

Don't we all have our personal view of what constitutes ADVriding?
Someday I hope to be able to really take a trip somewhere but I have had that dream for 20 years now...
I hope to start with a simple overnight two day camping trip, if I can arrange it.
Until then, I just have short, local "adventures".
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:14 PM   #75851
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Any bike can be an Adv bike esp a street bike on a long dirt road with a sudden cloud burst.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:15 PM   #75852
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Good question Sir!

What is advriding anyway?
What are the requirements?

I think an adv bike is anything you have an adventure on. But, maybe that's just me?

Not that a multi-day trip is required, nor that extra gear be packed along.
Not even leaving the state or country is necessary in my mind.

The Street Tracker is a dirt road bike which is the majority of the riding I do.

No fenders for the show since street trackers, like flat track race bikes don't have fenders.

I do have a front fender for it and a shock sock to protect the rear shock.
I won't be riding it in mud, on rocky trails, or in desert sand though.
I don't have the time available to go for more than one day for a ride so my adventures are much closer to home.

Like one GS rider said, "Anytime I go off a paved road, it IS an adventure".

I do have another DR that is set up for long street trips, trails, sand, rocks and mud.
Big tank, excellent suspension, GSXR pipe, lowered pegs, bar risers, Seat Concepts, saddle bags and most of the same farkles everyone else likes.
But it is tall and heavy just like most DR's.

The street tracker is a "hot rod" not a jeep.

So, if I have only two hours for a ride and there are no trails within two hours but there are lots of dirt roads great for sliding the curves on, which bike will be more of an adventure to ride?

My bike was put in the ADV class at the show because it is a street legal dirt bike and that was the class definition.
So it was in with the BMW's that look ready to travel the world.
And a neat Ducatti that was quite similar to my street tracker, stripped to nothing but with knobbies on the 17" wheels.
That bike has made the D2D run and that is certainly an adventure!

Don't we all have our personal view of what constitutes ADVriding?
Someday I hope to be able to really take a trip somewhere but I have had that dream for 20 years now...
I hope to start with a simple overnight two day camping trip, if I can arrange it.
Until then, I just have short, local "adventures".
I'm taking nothing away from your nice bike and workmanship but a flat tracker is not an Adventure bike in the sense that anyone who describes going out to buy an Adventure bike is refering to. There is a classification for super moto- moto-cross/supercross, trials and any of these would fit that loose definition but it would not communicate what actual bike a person was talking about. Words have meaning. I rode a GSXR1000 for a couple years on my Adventure rides and I then decided to buy an Adventure bike. Do you know what I bought? No not another GSXR1000 although I did have adventures on it. The reason I got rid of the GSXR1000 is that it just wasn't as good a trials bike as the dealer said it would be!
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:21 PM   #75853
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I wasn't going to suggest what you should or should not use, but I'm trying to gauge what spring would be better for me. I have the stock spring and I weigh 200lbs. If a 8.1 is too stiff for you, and you weigh X, it would be just right for me? yes, no?

What do you weigh if you don't mind telling? Thanks
The 8.1 is firm. I shouldn't have said stiff. As a street bike, it'd probably be considered stiff if I had to ride the bike solely on road.

I like the 8.1. I'm at probably 225 lbs with boots, jacket, helmet. The 8.1 is firm on road and rides like a dirt bike off road. Typically I add a gallon of fuel in a container and if I include luggage it'd be another 25+ lbs. At that point I think anything less than ~7.6 spring would be too light for where I ride, the 8.1 is perfect.

BTW, I also have .70 front springs.

The bike feels firmly planted on road and off, the rebound and compression works really well with this set up.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:21 PM   #75854
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I'm taking nothing away from your nice bike and workmanship but a flat tracker is not an Adventure bike in the sense that anyone who describes going out to buy an Adventure bike is refering to. There is a classification for super moto- moto-cross/supercross, trials and any of these would fit that loose definition but it would not communicate what actual bike a person was talking about. Words have meaning. I rode a GSXR1000 for a couple years on my Adventure rides and I then decided to buy an Adventure bike. Do you know what I bought? No not another GSXR1000 although I did have adventures on it. The reason I got rid of the GSXR1000 is that it just wasn't as good a trials bike as the dealer said it would be!
Trials or trails .......



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Old 04-15-2013, 02:40 PM   #75855
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Trials or trails .......



Obviously it makes no difference, but i guess that's what your playing off!
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