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Old 04-16-2013, 08:56 AM   #75841
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You need new pads. Don't oil the brakes. Youtube pad replacement. Its easy.

do it soon. you will trash your rotors. (the circular part)
+1 May be learning an expensive lesson. Got new front and rear pads asap, like today. Any use now is just doing more harm. Hopefully you'll be able to take the old calipers off, spread the pads apart (open the master) fit the new pads, and reinstall. Should also get a new bottle of DOT fluid and flush the system. If you want to spend $$ get a stainless front brake line. If you are cheap (nothing wrong with that ) then think about the money you can save by doing it yourself and hopefully not having to buy rotors.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:26 AM   #75842
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Hello all, I be a resident noob looking for mechanical advice.

So I've been putting this off, I know I need new back brakes, so I've just sort of been relying on the front ones solely for a couple months now. Now the front disc (over which I believe the brakes actually apply pressure to to stop) has started rubbing against the brakes (I believe) when not actually braking.

I don't really feel any difference in the riding or coasting, but it makes an annoying light screech sound so I thought: hey, why not just put some chain lube up in that bitch? Turns out that was stupid, the noise went away but now the brakes are weaker for it, and the front disc is still real hot to the touch after a couple minutes riding. Am I doomed to replace my brakes at this juncture (about 10k miles), or can I loosen that front component to widen the gap in the brakes a bit?

Show me the error of my ways, for I am young and inexperienced in the zen of maintenance.
I'm not trying to pick on you but, if you oiled your brakes...you don't need to own wrenches. Take it to someone who knows what they are doing. Brakes are important- life saving devices.

If you really want to start working on your stuff I suggest starting with some community college classes in auto repair. Get the basics down then start tinkering.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:27 AM   #75843
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I would like significantly more light. I've considered aux lighting, but it seems a significant improvement in the headlight is probably the best bang for the buck. Am I wrong? There are a few lights out there and sure as sh8t I can't remember the brands I had considered, Trailtech was one, I think Baja Designs the other.

What say the collective wisdom, aux lighting or put that same money into a dedicated headlight with significantly more output?
There are hundreds of post about lighting here and in the Index. For me, given the very low elec. output of the DR650 ... there is only one choice.
HID.

You can spend a lot or a little. I spent about $25 for my DDM Tuning HID
35W single bulb kit. Plug and play, no extra wire runs to battery or other none sense which will bite you later.

The HID bulb uses only 35 watts ... so you get back 20 watts and get about 3 times the light output over stock 55 Watt H-4 bulb.
Win Win.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:39 AM   #75844
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Hello all, I be a resident noob looking for mechanical advice.

So I've been putting this off, I know I need new back brakes, so I've just sort of been relying on the front ones solely for a couple months now. Now the front disc (over which I believe the brakes actually apply pressure to to stop) has started rubbing against the brakes (I believe) when not actually braking.

I don't really feel any difference in the riding or coasting, but it makes an annoying light screech sound so I thought: hey, why not just put some chain lube up in that bitch? Turns out that was stupid, the noise went away but now the brakes are weaker for it, and the front disc is still real hot to the touch after a couple minutes riding. Am I doomed to replace my brakes at this juncture (about 10k miles), or can I loosen that front component to widen the gap in the brakes a bit?

Show me the error of my ways, for I am young and inexperienced in the zen of maintenance.
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I'm not trying to pick on you but, if you oiled your brakes...you don't need to own wrenches. Take it to someone who knows what they are doing. Brakes are important- life saving devices.

If you really want to start working on your stuff I suggest starting with some community college classes in auto repair. Get the basics down then start tinkering.
Good advice above. Learning how things work will pay off big dividends down the road.

Here is a few very basic things to start with:
Remove brake pads, throw away.
Clean area around caliper pistons. Make sure they are moving freely.
Clean ALL oil off everything ... needs to be spotless.
Clean brake rotor (disc) with Brake Clean or other spirit. Go over it with
steel wool.
Install new brake pads (get help with this part)
Flush all old brake fluid OUT of system, adding new fluid from unopened
container, do not let any air into system. Break in new brakes lightly for first 50 miles. Do NOT over heat your new brakes.

Repeat this procedure on rear brake. Good luck.
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:40 AM   #75845
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I'm not trying to pick on you but, if you oiled your brakes...you don't need to own wrenches. Take it to someone who knows what they are doing. Brakes are important- life saving devices.

If you really want to start working on your stuff I suggest starting with some community college classes in auto repair. Get the basics down then start tinkering.
I'm soooo sorry... but I can't stop laughing... (tears streaming down my cheeks).... we all gotta start somewhere I guess.

glad the kid didn't get himself killed...
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:48 AM   #75846
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Brake Issues

Thanks all, will do the above. Rotors look ok, no grooves or anything in em. Off to get new pads on now.
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Old 04-16-2013, 10:36 AM   #75847
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I would like significantly more light. I've considered aux lighting, but it seems a significant improvement in the headlight is probably the best bang for the buck. Am I wrong? There are a few lights out there and sure as sh8t I can't remember the brands I had considered, Trailtech was one, I think Baja Designs the other.

What say the collective wisdom, aux lighting or put that same money into a dedicated headlight with significantly more output?
HID headlight saves approximately 20W and is really freakin' bright. 1157 reflector LED unit from www.superbrightleds.com, that flashes 3x before going solid, makes your DR more noticeable and saves some more wattage. You can also replace your license illumination bulb, your neutral dash indicator bulb, and your high-beam dash indicator bulb with LED units, to save even a bit more wattage. See Mx Rob's writeup link from the DR650 wiki page.

For even more light, several LED driving lights are now on the market. They typically use much less wattage than incandescent/halogen driving lights.
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Old 04-16-2013, 12:52 PM   #75848
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Something to consider when trying to save watts: The bulbs that are actually ON all the time are what matters most. Headlight and taillight. The others don't matter so much because they are on for such a tiny amount of time.
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Old 04-16-2013, 01:15 PM   #75849
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I would like significantly more light. I've considered aux lighting, but it seems a significant improvement in the headlight is probably the best bang for the buck. Am I wrong? There are a few lights out there and sure as sh8t I can't remember the brands I had considered, Trailtech was one, I think Baja Designs the other.

What say the collective wisdom, aux lighting or put that same money into a dedicated headlight with significantly more output?
Lots of ideas here,
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=635694

particularly ADV Grifter's post #35.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=35
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:27 PM   #75850
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Something to consider when trying to save watts: The bulbs that are actually ON all the time are what matters most. Headlight and taillight. The others don't matter so much because they are on for such a tiny amount of time.
True. That's why I didn't mention signals, although I converted my front signals to dual-filament units, so I use LEDs there too. The dash indicators mentioned can be on for long periods of time, BTW, depending on circumstances. The license illumination is on constantly as well. I did forget to mention the speedo illumination bulb too. I replaced mine with a red LED. 'Ambience, and all that.

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Old 04-16-2013, 11:12 PM   #75851
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I am amazed at my gas milage consistency on my DR. I ride it hard I ge† 40 MPG, I ride it easy I get 40 MPG, I throw on a Givi topbox that I used to use on my Strom, which would drop the mileage on that bike about 3 MPG. But on my DR, I still get 40 MPG. What an odd bike.
Maybe, your mileage is so consistent because you're getting 20% less mpg than most riders of DRs?

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Old 04-16-2013, 11:13 PM   #75852
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Hello all, I be a resident noob looking for mechanical advice.

So I've been putting this off, I know I need new back brakes, so I've just sort of been relying on the front ones solely for a couple months now. Now the front disc (over which I believe the brakes actually apply pressure to to stop) has started rubbing against the brakes (I believe) when not actually braking.

I don't really feel any difference in the riding or coasting, but it makes an annoying light screech sound so I thought: hey, why not just put some chain lube up in that bitch? Turns out that was stupid, the noise went away but now the brakes are weaker for it, and the front disc is still real hot to the touch after a couple minutes riding. Am I doomed to replace my brakes at this juncture (about 10k miles), or can I loosen that front component to widen the gap in the brakes a bit?

Show me the error of my ways, for I am young and inexperienced in the zen of maintenance.
My immediate thought was this is a troll.

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Old 04-17-2013, 05:15 AM   #75853
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Been a while since I've posted anything, so I figured y'all might like a coupla pix from the ride this week, using my latest build ... luggage.... hope you like it.


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For scale purposes, the top case is 35 litres.

The bags are MIL SPEC ...
The rack system is removable in less than a minute without tools ...
was a challenge to build but works a treat.

cheers
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:22 AM   #75854
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What a GREAT idea! Spent 15 years in the Army and never thought to use ruck sacks on my bike like that. May have to buy another set.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:47 AM   #75855
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Thanks all, will do the above. Rotors look ok, no grooves or anything in em. Off to get new pads on now.
Go to the regional forum and see if you can find some FF'r to lend a hand. It is not a difficult job if you have done it before but without experience it can seem very challenging. Offer up some beers and you can get someone to help with this job and learn a few pointers.

Good luck.
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