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Old 05-02-2013, 11:33 AM   #76321
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Experienced people,

What would be better? Lowering the pegs, or buying a taller seat?

My 2 cents worth is: lowering the pegs, with a product like that offered by SW-Mootech which does not lower the bottom-clearance, would be better on a DR650 because it would not increase the riding height, therefore maintaining more control over the bike when riding anywhere. These pegs are about $167 which is about the same price as a High Seat Concepts seat. The SC seat raises the bike 1 inch. The lowered pegs 1.75 inches. The LP are the clear winner in terms of more leg room.

The difficult part is this: Buying the lowered pegs ought to do the job. But if I desire to buy a new seat, due to the 'hardness' of the 650's stock seat, I'll be forking out more money. $167 for the lowered pegs + between $150 - $300 for a new seat.

Ergonomically the lower pegs are best. Financially the higher seat is best. If money weren't a problem, I'd just get both!

What do you reckon?
How tall are you?
I would do the SEAT first as the stock seat is a torture rack ... so needs replacement anyway. There are OTHER seat specialists around, probably even some good guys in Oz. Shop Round. Raise it up 2 inches over stock if possible.

Then, if still uncomfortable, save up for lower pegs and do that when you can manage it. You will probably want to add bar risers if you raise seat height. Better for taller riders. More $$$$ of course.

The DR is really more suited for shorter riders. Not the best big man's bike, but if you do all the mods, is not bad. Still, bikes like KTM's, some Honda's, are all taller. Cheers!
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:26 PM   #76322
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Experienced people,

What would be better? Lowering the pegs, or buying a taller seat?

My 2 cents worth is: lowering the pegs, with a product like that offered by SW-Mootech which does not lower the bottom-clearance, would be better on a DR650 because it would not increase the riding height, therefore maintaining more control over the bike when riding anywhere. These pegs are about $167 which is about the same price as a High Seat Concepts seat. The SC seat raises the bike 1 inch. The lowered pegs 1.75 inches. The LP are the clear winner in terms of more leg room.

The difficult part is this: Buying the lowered pegs ought to do the job. But if I desire to buy a new seat, due to the 'hardness' of the 650's stock seat, I'll be forking out more money. $167 for the lowered pegs + between $150 - $300 for a new seat.

Ergonomically the lower pegs are best. Financially the higher seat is best. If money weren't a problem, I'd just get both!

What do you reckon?
I went for both and the seat was more important to me.
I got my Seat Concept DR seat before they offered the "Tall" version.
With my suspension the seat is already up high and I'm not sure I would find the extra inch worth buying a new one. (I am 6-4")

I bought the ProCycle lowered pegs next and was amazed at how much more comfortable my legs (knees) are. So I recommend that too.

However, my knees could put up with riding on stock pegs far longer time wise than my butt could take on the stock seat. Eeeeeooooowwwww!

ProCycle sells both Seat Concept and lowered pegs so getting them shipped to you in Australia might be a better price than you can do locally.
And if you can swing doing both at the same time you will be happier.

You didn't ask, but I also have 2" bar risers and the "High" ATV bars.
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:52 PM   #76323
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One of mine kept easing out and turns out it was bent inside and could not be adjusted. When I used hand impact with vise holding square part the screw snapped.
I need bar ends for my stock bars. Anyone got a pair they are willing to sell?
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I'm at 6' and the Seat Concepts HIGH was not enough of a difference for me, height-wise. I did 400 mi / 2x 6 hour riding days last weekend and ordered the PC lower pegs on Monday. I don't think I shuffled my cheeks once on that ride; the SC seat was great, ass-comfort-wise.

I have a sensitive knee, so need the "old man set-up" - lots of offroad riding seated-to-standing transitions will exacerbate my knee.

I have longer than stock suspension, so peg scraping is less of a concern. Plus the PC lowering kit doesn't put any hardware below the frame rails/ skidplate.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:23 PM   #76324
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Experienced people,

What would be better? Lowering the pegs, or buying a taller seat?

My 2 cents worth is: lowering the pegs, with a product like that offered by SW-Mootech which does not lower the bottom-clearance, would be better on a DR650 because it would not increase the riding height, therefore maintaining more control over the bike when riding anywhere. These pegs are about $167 which is about the same price as a High Seat Concepts seat. The SC seat raises the bike 1 inch. The lowered pegs 1.75 inches. The LP are the clear winner in terms of more leg room.

The difficult part is this: Buying the lowered pegs ought to do the job. But if I desire to buy a new seat, due to the 'hardness' of the 650's stock seat, I'll be forking out more money. $167 for the lowered pegs + between $150 - $300 for a new seat.

Ergonomically the lower pegs are best. Financially the higher seat is best. If money weren't a problem, I'd just get both!

What do you reckon?

Ass pain trumps knee pain every time . Do the seat first. Like someone else said, do the pegs later, if needed.
Since you're on a budget, I'd remind you not to overlook used parts. I bought my Corbin used for $200, and it was hardly broken in. My BBQ tail rack, IMS tank, and Parabellum screen- all preowned. My Works Performance shock was factory reconditioned. My Five Stars centerstand was a close out from Twisted Throttle. My fork springs are swapped from a DL650 that I scored for $5 (I'm a portly gentleman .)
Keep your eyes open. There are bargains out there.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:51 PM   #76325
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Wowzers Krusty ... you win the sharp bargain hunters award for sure!
Very impressive. I never seem to find the great deals ... although my bike was a good deal when I bought it ... and I did get an Ohlins shock ... free!
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:01 PM   #76326
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Like others have said, the seat will most likely be the biggest improvement you can make. I did the seat first and also the lower pegs from procycle later. Nothing is below what the stock pegs were, just more leg room. Plus the area of the peg is larger so standing is nicer.

Yes, Ken, I will contact you when I get to San Diego. My son is going to a wedding in Hawaii in early June and I will be dog sitting in Seattle and have not set any dates as of yet for going south.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:55 AM   #76327
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Thank you Sir!

Unfortunately, I will be storing this info myself as I tried to share it with my neighbor only to be informed that he has the motor in the bike and he doesn't care to take it out. I wished him luck... I hope the trans can get enough oil otherwise.
And some folks here previously questioned why I preferred to purchase a new DR! One of the best things about the DR, and the same reason I prefer a new with the additional cost, is that they are so easy to work on, folks who shouldn't be working on them will do just that.

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Old 05-03-2013, 06:59 AM   #76328
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How tall are you?
Hey, I'm 6 foot 4 tall ~ Cheers ~
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:26 AM   #76329
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Cheers for ya'llz advice regarding the pegs versus seat height.
As I'm 6 foot 4 and have an upper body like a orangatang I'm leaning towards getting the lowering pegs per SW-Motortech's (these don't lower the clearance height). I'll prob. see how that goes...then I will order a Seat Concepts seat. Yes, I'll be ordering a seat regardless but if I don't need the SC TALL seat then I'll get the SC STANDARD set because this'll save me having to buy bar-forward-risers and can keep my position on Atlas lower & my leg wrap around the bike more (= more control, at least in theory). Open to further ideas, though, and'll be placing my order prob. in the next 48 hours. Will post pics in about 4 weeks of this specific most expensive option job for yallz future ref.
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Old 05-03-2013, 07:58 AM   #76330
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Fuel Tanks versus Fuel Bottles

Long distance riders,
Safari 30L tank $589 + postage "oh man, that's just plain old mean!" )
Acerbis 20L $270 + postage
Fuel bottles <$30 + a ride to the shops.
Safari: does it interfere with the controls and GPS units on the DR650?
What are your thoughts on tanks versus bottles? Say I'm going to go 600km+ (so I'll need >10 more litres).
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:03 AM   #76331
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Long distance riders,
Safari 30L tank $589
"Acerbis 20L $270 + postage
Fuel bottles <$30 + a ride to the shops.
Safari: does it interfere with the controls and GPS units on the DR650?
What are your thoughts on tanks versus bottles? Say I'm going to go 600km+ (so I'll need >10 more litres).
Safari tanks get a fair bit of criticism ... ask around on your local Oz DR650 forums. IMO, over priced and 8 gallons (30 liters) not required for most riders.

Fuel bottles, IMO, are a pain. I've carried fuel for short stretches but never permanently mounted to the bike. A bigger tank is a FAR better solution.
If you must go this route, check our "Rotopax" aux tanks.

Maybe look around for a used IMS fuel tank? I've seen them here on ADV Rider Flea Market for around $150 USD. Shipping from USA to Oz would be high, but maybe you can find a used IMS locally?

Unless you're doing lots of serious Out Back touring, the 5 US gallon (19.5 liter) IMS fuel tank should be OK. I can go 230 miles (370 kms) on mine. The new Acerbis tank is very nice but not many used ones around.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:06 AM   #76332
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Cheers for ya'llz advice regarding the pegs versus seat height.
As I'm 6 foot 4 and have an upper body like a orangatang I'm leaning towards getting the lowering pegs per SW-Motortech's (these don't lower the clearance height). I'll prob. see how that goes...then I will order a Seat Concepts seat. Yes, I'll be ordering a seat regardless but if I don't need the SC TALL seat then I'll get the SC STANDARD set because this'll save me having to buy bar-forward-risers and can keep my position on Atlas lower & my leg wrap around the bike more (= more control, at least in theory). Open to further ideas, though, and'll be placing my order prob. in the next 48 hours. Will post pics in about 4 weeks of this specific most expensive option job for yallz future ref.
I expect you'll also need a handlebar with a taller bend and/or bar risers. Especially if you like to stand on the pegs.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:17 AM   #76333
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Maybe look around for a used IMS fuel tank? I've seen them here on ADV Rider Flea Market for around $150 USD. Shipping from USA to Oz would be high, but maybe you can find a used IMS locally?
I only paid $100 for mine

BUT... one caveat regarding older IMS tanks: The older cap gaskets are fine with 5% ethanol in the gasoline, but will disintegrate with the 10% ethanol blend that's typically found at gas stations in the US. Not sure what the fuel is like in Oz. The fix is cheap enough- but a new IMS cap, or upgrade to a locking cap.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:25 AM   #76334
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Cheers for ya'llz advice regarding the pegs versus seat height.
As I'm 6 foot 4 and have an upper body like a orangatang I'm leaning towards getting the lowering pegs per SW-Motortech's (these don't lower the clearance height). I'll prob. see how that goes...then I will order a Seat Concepts seat. Yes, I'll be ordering a seat regardless but if I don't need the SC TALL seat then I'll get the SC STANDARD set because this'll save me having to buy bar-forward-risers and can keep my position on Atlas lower & my leg wrap around the bike more (= more control, at least in theory). Open to further ideas, though, and'll be placing my order prob. in the next 48 hours. Will post pics in about 4 weeks of this specific most expensive option job for yallz future ref.
I'm 6'4" and the DR650 definitely has a cramped cockpit for tall riders. I don't know why you wouldn't order the TALL SC seat regardless? Your explanation doesn't really make sense to me. The Tall SC seat gets you more leg room and your legs will fit more comfortably on the bike. My WR250R fits me way better as a taller rider, but I'm trying to get the DR there too.

Between the lower pegs and the Tall seat, that also makes standing up easier as your legs aren't as bent and the position you need to go from sitting to standing is up higher which also helps. You'll definitely need risers + tall bars. Look into the Rox Risers that allow you to get the bars way forward and away from you giving your more room for your arms. I definitely say get the tall SC seat. Everything helps when you are 6'4".
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:12 AM   #76335
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I have a Corbin seat that has been modified to add a gel pad. I find the foam on the Corbin (even with the gel pad) to be as hard as a rock.

How does the Corbin compare with the Sargent seat in terms of comfort and foam hardness?

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