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Old 11-20-2007, 07:11 PM   #8821
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Let's not become like the Harley snobs (not all harley riders are snobs) that won't wave to anyone not on a HD. If the guy wants a KTM I have no problem with that. They are great bikes. I have one. Not all bikes do all things. Sometimes you need more than one bike, sometimes you change brands. Hope you enjoy your KTM to the max. I would have one in a heartbeat. DR's are cool but so are other bikes. DR riders are cool, but so are other brand riders too. It's all good!

It's good that everyone doesn't like the same thing, or we'd all be standing in a giant line.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:26 PM   #8822
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I have quite a few motorcycles. I've had nothing but great times with all my KTMs. In fact, I have a new 08 XC-W 250 ordered. The performance of the Euro bikes just blows away anything Japanese - hands down. Yes, I agree that suzuki parts are less expensive and a little easier to obtain, but I haven't had a problem with KTM. I love my DL650 - absolutely fantastic motorcycle. But the DR650 is not the offroader that KTM is and never will be. The guys with tighter wallets go Japanese and I certainly understand that. I own a DR and like it fine. I have over 10,000 miles on the DR650, so I know what its about. It is a far better pavement, gravel road, two tracker than the KTM LC4, but in the woods and single track the KTM wins everytime. Sorry DR650 purists, but this fact, like it or not. Hey, not to start a pissing match, but I like my Strom over a bmwGS. So, I'm not a suzi hater. Just REAL offroad belongs to bikes like husky, KTM, GasGas, Beta.....
Tight wallet? No. But I'd prefer a Japanese bike over the KTM. I have no beef with KTM's. They're awesome.

To each his own. Ride on you Gnarly Diamond!
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:36 PM   #8823
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that is true, but wtf is your intent of this post?
different bike, different purpose, different design, different price.
this is not new news!

those that adv ride/tour with their DRs are very satisfied. those that buy one and hope it's a mean off-road/mx machine (for cheap) are not so satisfied.

oh yeah i can "real offroad" on my xr4 all day long>>>you just seem to have a grudge against japs...even though you own them.

sniff, sniff, sniff do i smell a troll?
The intent? read earlier posts. I just offered my DR for sale when I learned of an LC4 for sale. I guess it bugs the DR650 purtists here. So what?
I have no grudge against Jap bikes, if you read my entire post. I'm not trying to argue, some of you here are defending your DRs like soccor moms with their brats. Once again(in english) I have no problem with my DR650. Its been a great bike, with a few short comings in my opinion. My point was merely that the LC4 is better for more dedicated offroading and that includes your XR. You guys gotta cool down a bit and save the energy for offroading.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:38 PM   #8824
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Tight wallet? No. But I'd prefer a Japanese bike over the KTM. I have no beef with KTM's. They're awesome.

To each his own. Ride on you Gnarly Diamond!
Hey fishmonster , glad to see you're still with us.
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:39 PM   #8825
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Let's not become like the Harley snobs (not all harley riders are snobs) that won't wave to anyone not on a HD. If the guy wants a KTM I have no problem with that. They are great bikes. I have one. Not all bikes do all things. Sometimes you need more than one bike, sometimes you change brands. Hope you enjoy your KTM to the max. I would have one in a heartbeat. DR's are cool but so are other bikes. DR riders are cool, but so are other brand riders too. It's all good!

It's good that everyone doesn't like the same thing, or we'd all be standing in a giant line.
Nuff said - thanks rusty!!!
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Old 11-20-2007, 07:56 PM   #8826
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Nuff said.
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:28 PM   #8827
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Originally Posted by Rusty Rocket
Let's not become like the Harley snobs (not all harley riders are snobs) that won't wave to anyone not on a HD. If the guy wants a KTM I have no problem with that. They are great bikes. I have one. Not all bikes do all things. Sometimes you need more than one bike, sometimes you change brands. Hope you enjoy your KTM to the max. I would have one in a heartbeat. DR's are cool but so are other bikes. DR riders are cool, but so are other brand riders too. It's all good!

It's good that everyone doesn't like the same thing, or we'd all be standing in a giant line.
I'm not a Harley guy but I gotta say In the last two years traveling the southwest almost every Harley guy has waved to me. Even the hard core jail house tatood. I am even surprised as I'm on a DR650. +100 on needing more than one bike. Different tools for different jobs. (thats what I told the wife anyway )
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:41 PM   #8828
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Old 11-20-2007, 11:48 PM   #8829
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Oh yeah and that scrambler looks cool too
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Old 11-21-2007, 06:09 AM   #8830
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don't know where to post this, but I'm selling my 2000 DR650 for $2500. if anyone is interested. Has a few extras, clean as a whistle, always garaged, never dumped or crashed, 10,500 miles(yup, I bought it new). I'm looking at an LC4. Sorry, but I bleed orange. I'm a ktm guy first. Keeping the wee though, its just too much fun.

CJ
All the verbage and no mention of where you live...

Where you at dude??
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:56 AM   #8831
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I have quite a few motorcycles. I've had nothing but great times with all my KTMs. In fact, I have a new 08 XC-W 250 ordered. The performance of the Euro bikes just blows away anything Japanese - hands down. Yes, I agree that suzuki parts are less expensive and a little easier to obtain, but I haven't had a problem with KTM. I love my DL650 - absolutely fantastic motorcycle. But the DR650 is not the offroader that KTM is and never will be. The guys with tighter wallets go Japanese and I certainly understand that. I own a DR and like it fine. I have over 10,000 miles on the DR650, so I know what its about. It is a far better pavement, gravel road, two tracker than the KTM LC4, but in the woods and single track the KTM wins everytime. Sorry DR650 purists, but this fact, like it or not. Hey, not to start a pissing match, but I like my Strom over a bmwGS. So, I'm not a suzi hater. Just REAL offroad belongs to bikes like husky, KTM, GasGas, Beta.....
Never argued the KTM wasn't a better offroad bike, of course it is. I was just stating me personal experience with KTM, which hasn't been good. And having owned them, you have to admit they are a maintenance nightmare. And hope you never need parts, or aren't in a hurry for them. And for me, expense isn't an issue, heck I ride a beemer don't I? I'm willing to pay more for parts, but I better be able to buy those parts when I need em.
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:48 AM   #8832
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Talking Hello!

Hello every DR owners!

I am from Finnland...from far away from north...

I watchded every about 590 pages off DR 650 and decided to join here and write something sometimes.

I have DR 650 SE 1998 model, with little improwings. Mikuni TM40 pumper carb, Leovince X3 full open exhaust and little bit quieter Spess exhaust which is fixed in bike just now, air intake snorkel taken off, original foam filter.

+originall little Suzuki base plate, originall Suzuki rack and Michelin T63 tires, 15/41 gears...next gears will come maybe 14/43 or 15/44.

(We have maximum speed 120km/h in finland in motorways and much grawel roads...)

I hope i dont sound very boring, and sorry for my poor english which usually I self believe getting better after couple off beers ..
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:11 AM   #8833
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Hello every DR owners!

I am from Finnland
Hey jiiassa, welcome to ADV.

I was in Helsinki for a Rush concert about a month ago, it's a beautiful city and I really wish I could have spent more than a day there.

Jump in and join the conversation, your English is probably better than most Jomommacans
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:47 AM   #8834
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Hello every DR owners!

I am from Finnland...from far away from north...

I watchded every about 590 pages off DR 650 and decided to join here and write something sometimes.

I have DR 650 SE 1998 model, with little improwings. Mikuni TM40 pumper carb, Leovince X3 full open exhaust and little bit quieter Spess exhaust which is fixed in bike just now, air intake snorkel taken off, original foam filter.

+originall little Suzuki base plate, originall Suzuki rack and Michelin T63 tires, 15/41 gears...next gears will come maybe 14/43 or 15/44.

(We have maximum speed 120km/h in finland in motorways and much grawel roads...)

I hope i dont sound very boring, and sorry for my poor english which usually I self believe getting better after couple off beers ..

hey welcome to z site how's the weather over in Finland right now ?is it cold to go riding ??
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:12 PM   #8835
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weather etc..

Little bit cold just now, about +3 degrees and rainy weather, can still ride theres no ice in street and roads...But now has been couple off days -10 degrees in this month, then needs studtires or in later winter, when is much snow and ice ...spiketires if wants to ride.

I dont have spikes, they are quiet expensive and 17" rear wheel without lock is not ideal, because you have to use very low pressures. Usually my bike stands in carage over the worst winter.

21" and 18-19" spike tires can buy from shop straight but 17" needs almost made by self, only maybe two tires can find allready.

Maxxis 130/90-17 and Trelleborg army special are ready made... Duro/Kings Tire tires have good frame for that use if you make them self.

Here one famous Finnish place who makes and sell spike tires.

www.kisarengas.fi

And here Finnish weather map

www.ilmatieteenlaitos.fi
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