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Old 06-30-2008, 09:10 AM   #14821
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Originally Posted by Berni
Hi everybody. This is a new one on me. I just found out the hard way that the brake bleeders on most Suzukis are 7mmx1.00 with a few exceptions. I ordered from my favorite DR650 supplier, among other things, front braided line (to short, but hey, things happen, no biggie) and speed bleeders. I damaged both my calipers because the DR650 calls for 8x1.25 bleeders. BE WARNED: dont be a doofus like me and trust other people who trust other people. DOUBLE CHECK!!
So anyway, just for hellery, if I order said bleeders specifically for the DR650.....and they send the wrong ones for whatever reason....are they even slightly responsible for my suicidal thoughts?
Thanks for the warning. I looked at speeed bleeders and was thinking about getting a set. I'm pretty sure that the catalog said that 7mm were the ones for DR650. I will definately check before ordering.
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Old 06-30-2008, 09:31 AM   #14822
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Wasn't gonna say anything here, but after 3 beers, it was iching to come out.
In order to get more air through the filter, you would need the filter to have less restriction of the filter material. Bottom line is: a less restrictive filter, filters out less particles than a more restrictive filter. The K&N's do a good job of allowing alot of air in with a compromise in particle blocking efficiency. To help reduce the compromise, the filter uses the oil film to "suspend" particles that would normally pass through. With extreme dusty/dirty conditions, race teams use a foam pre-filter over the K&N. This pre-filter is extremely thin but, it blocks the larger particles from getting to the K&N allowing the oil film to do a better job of getting the smaller particles that pass through.
One must also understand that race teams usually have a run hour rebuild schedule of thier engines. They have factored in the effects of particulates entering the engine (as in wear) compared to horse power gain.

I would say that if you live in dusty conditions and you don't want to rebuild your engine sooner than normal, don't use the K&N. Or use a pre-filter if you insist on a K&N at least.

However, if use the bike in a "cleaner" environment such as the city, the K&N would be fine.

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oh, and I've got 105K miles from my K&N on my 250k mile Porsche 944if I mis-spelled anything , I blame the beer.
well put DR650Guy
I have been educated on the K&N filters,maybe better to run them on street bikes or dual purpose bikes that dont see thick dust,seems like I usually see more bugs and crap then actual dirt on my street bikes air filter. I always used em racing flattrack and they do flow well.
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:42 AM   #14823
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Howdy all, first post so...

I purchased a DR650 last week, it was a pretty rough choice for the same reasons I've seen posted all over the forums...I'm just small. At 5'4 it seemed like most seats were just gonna be too high even with lowering. Getting up on most of the dual sports felt like climbing a jungle gym. I was really interested in a KLR. I have two buddies up here with them, I like what they did with the 08 models, all in all...I liked the bike. However, the more and more I tried to convince myself that I could fit on one, the less and less it made sense. Just seemed like to be sure, I'd need to get lowering links on one, and the low corbin seat...and then see if I could fit so I could maybe purchase one. To my surprise the local Kawasaki dealer did not want to do all that for free so I could test the seat height. On the other hand, the DR was fairly manageable at the stock height, so I figured with the low seat setting, and a shaved corbin seat...I'd be all set. So the deal was made!
Congrats on a getting a great bike. I went through the same thing as you (I'm a bit taller at 5'7") and got the DR. I had it lowered (Michaels Powersports in Nampa) and traded up for a gel seat...2 years later I couldn't be happier! I'm thinking about putting the suspension back up though. Much more wheel travel for off-roading, that, and my skill has gotten better so I don't mind the height. Likely see you around the valley.
Big black 4.9 gallon tank/blue fenders...can't miss it. Oh, make sure you swing by Happy Trails down in Garden city. Ed (Capt Ed) gave me a lot of tips on the DR.

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Old 06-30-2008, 12:38 PM   #14824
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Air Horn.

I am an urban uber-commuter. So back when I still had my Strom I picked up a Stebel Nautilus compact air horn. I tested it, but never put it on.

Sold the Strom, just recently bought an '01 DR650. I tried to figure out a place to fit it, and I just couldn't find anywhere. It either interfered with the steering, was too close to the exhaust, or stuck out so far that it would have been sheard right off were the bike to go down.

Anyone here managed to fit a Stebel on their DR anywhere? Where did you fit it? Any pictures?
Anyone Find a different extremely loud air horn that will fit on a DR?
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Old 06-30-2008, 01:57 PM   #14825
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Just some pics of todays little adventure:


















Thanks for looking!

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Old 06-30-2008, 02:12 PM   #14826
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Steibl horn

I hung a BAD BOY horn (same as Steibl but sold at harbour freight $35) just below where the stock disk horn was. I made a longer bracket attached under the cable holder. The catch is I have a IMS tank so the plastic cover in front of the tank is not there.
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:20 PM   #14827
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I hung a BAD BOY horn (same as Steibl but sold at harbour freight $35) just below where the stock disk horn was. I made a longer bracket attached under the cable holder. The catch is I have a IMS tank so the plastic cover in front of the tank is not there.
Sorry no pix
Did you hang it with the horn openings facing forward or backward? Have you had any problems in that space with water and dirt being flung up into the horn?
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:26 PM   #14828
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VNP514,

Nice pics. I am always glad to see ride pics, when I am at work. SInce I can't be out riding at least I can see what someone else is doing! Weekdays SUCK!
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Old 06-30-2008, 02:34 PM   #14829
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Backwards

The opening faces back so all the stuff stays out.
The relay is up high so the stock horn wire could reach it. used a local ground and a fused 12gauge wire to the battery.
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Old 06-30-2008, 05:07 PM   #14830
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Originally Posted by StromBoni
I am an urban uber-commuter. So back when I still had my Strom I picked up a Stebel Nautilus compact air horn. I tested it, but never put it on.

Sold the Strom, just recently bought an '01 DR650. I tried to figure out a place to fit it, and I just couldn't find anywhere. It either interfered with the steering, was too close to the exhaust, or stuck out so far that it would have been sheard right off were the bike to go down.

Anyone here managed to fit a Stebel on their DR anywhere? Where did you fit it? Any pictures?
Anyone Find a different extremely loud air horn that will fit on a DR?
Look at post 14255 on page 951. Use the stock bracket reversed.
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Old 06-30-2008, 05:15 PM   #14831
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here are a couple of closer shots from my bike - turned stock bracket, and reamed out one hole a tad larger. Works fine (I bent the bracket a little after taking the photos, to ensure clearance from the IMS tank.):


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Old 06-30-2008, 06:10 PM   #14832
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SAE 10W-40 vs SAE 15W-50

Being the 650 is air-cooled I switched from 10W-40 to a heavier weight 15W-50 for summer (the 15W-50 is a synthetic racing oil, the 10W-40 is not).

Anybody see any issues with this?

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Old 06-30-2008, 06:13 PM   #14833
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Being the 650 is air-cooled I switched from 10W-40 to a heavier weight 15W-50 for summer (the 15W-50 is a synthetic racing oil, the 10W-40 is not).

Anybody see any issues with this?

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Old 06-30-2008, 06:37 PM   #14834
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I see no advantage to this, and a lot of downside disadvantages.
understand that the "50" is the key num... when the oil is heated to the max the engine is producing, the 50 is what the viscosity is at that point. it gets 'thicker', not 'thinner'.
the oil passages in any motor are engineered for a certain set of expected operating conditions. some very good manufacturers have been know to cut their 'overhead' margins too tight, and oil of too-high viscosity does not flow well through every journal in the system, resulting in oil starvation, especially if there is any old oil sludge or debris in the mix.

i would not run 50 in my DR's under any circumstances I can imagine.
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Being the 650 is air-cooled I switched from 10W-40 to a heavier weight 15W-50 for summer (the 15W-50 is a synthetic racing oil, the 10W-40 is not).

Anybody see any issues with this?

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Old 06-30-2008, 07:05 PM   #14835
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VNP514,

Nice pics. I am always glad to see ride pics, when I am at work. SInce I can't be out riding at least I can see what someone else is doing! Weekdays SUCK!
Thanks Josh.

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