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Old 01-17-2009, 06:32 PM   #1576
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Ahh...OK, you got that bike? Pod filters are very flammable. Do a google search for "Pod filter fires" and see how many hits you get...like this one:

http://www.r3owners.net/rocket-perfo...html#post10331

I was asking about the year because some years had accelerator pumps. That could also soak an intake if a child was cranking on the throttle in the garage, playing motorcycle, without you knowing it. That doesn't sound like the case here.

Do you have the stock airbox?
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Old 01-17-2009, 06:36 PM   #1577
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The triangular thing, yes it does...
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Old 01-18-2009, 12:58 PM   #1578
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I don't see any reason why an Elefant would be more prone to an intake fire than any other motorcycle.
Yes, it's usually the regulators that light them up.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:06 AM   #1579
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I have no experience with the 'fants. But I recall fuel dripping out the air box on my GS1000. Fuel all over the left side of the engine.......and my boot. Lucky nothing set it off though. Anyway the culprit was a dirty needle and seat in one of the carbs, so gas kept flowing even though the float bowl was full. Overflowed into the airbox. I know nothing of the 'fants but FWIW.

Nice bikes those Elefants. Tempting to get one one day.
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:07 AM   #1580
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Yes, it's usually the regulators that light them up.
Lucas regs by chance?
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Old 01-19-2009, 02:13 PM   #1581
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Lucas regs by chance?
I don't know who makes the OEMs, not Lucas though. The CDIs are japanease, so maybe the reg/recs are too?
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:44 AM   #1582
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If it were me I would pull the belt covers and make sure everything is cool before you crank it over anymore. Just to be sure the timing dots are where they should be. Probably not what happened but easy to check. If they are not or the belt broke then the compression test will tell you if the valves are bent. If so you might consider putting the bigger heads on it.

As far as finding someone to work on it it is just a 2v ducati engine. Nothing too exotic.

Richbebe on the board here was parting out one of his elefants he might still have the stock airbox. I would recomend putting one back on if you do any off road riding.

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Old 01-23-2009, 02:55 AM   #1583
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You better stop all the rumors about the Elefant right here right now!!!
the Elefants does not catch fire easily!
on some Elefants the rear brake was not maintained properly so it got stuck, overheated and then caught fire.
the reg is cocusan or something like that (I don't know how to spell it correctly) and it does fail but only very rarely but very rarely catch fire. more likely it will just stop working.
there is no reason for a spark near the air filter.
KingRWB you should check your electrical connections around the airbox. check the coils connections, the sparkplug leads connections and so on. there should be no source for spark anywhere near the airbox.
hope that not to much damege was doen to the bike.
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Old 01-23-2009, 06:58 AM   #1584
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There have been stories of several Fants catching fire. Not sure if they all shared the same problems though. I do know that the stock fuse box is a piece of crap though and will eventually need to be upgraded if you haven't all ready. I was lucky with mine in that it just overheated, melted and stopped working. Sold the bike two years ago and still miss it, maintenance headaches and all.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:28 AM   #1585
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Well well ... nice amount of idea but

original Reg on Fant are DUCATI ENERGIA
they burn sometimes but only if you don't take care to your bike and what she tells you when running . if there's a problem find it before insisting on giving gas..

Pod filters on mikuni is a crazy idea by cold weather and mainly when not too cold ..
I explain

Carb Icing ! You get the ice into the middle of carb, full of gas get into the engine, and you get backfire form the engine through the carbs that burns the pod filters

I know fant quite well and if KingRWB was able to get those filters out easyly, I don't see it possible with an original air box ..
It's not the first ducati engine that put"s fire on his pods ..

so : get an AIRBOX on your engine. Fant engine are developped for torque not for power

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Old 01-23-2009, 03:02 PM   #1586
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Thanks for all the ideas. Here's an update.

Did a compression check, 125 in the front, 105 in the back. While that obviously proves that the 50k mile 900 is a little tired, but no real valve damage during the event.

The belts also look great. Looks like they are fairly new as well...

One of the pods melted down into the carb, and stuck the vacumm slide open. I'm guessing that prevented the engine from starting back up after the fire. I removed the carbs and cleaned them. I was going to replace the burnt vacumm slide (that's what you call it right, it has a diaphram attached), but the cost is $160. I looked on ebay, and pick a new set of Mikuni carbs, the exact same model on the bike, brand new for $150 USD.

I'm hoping when they come in two weeks, I can stick them on and off I'll be. If any one of the issue above were the problem, the carbs should help, or at least it will run. If it's something with the ignition, then I'm stuck again.

By the way, I picked up some K&N filters for it. Not the stock air box, but K&N are considered legal spark arresters in some states...

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Old 01-23-2009, 03:04 PM   #1587
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Carb Icing ! You get the ice into the middle of carb, full of gas get into the engine, and you get backfire form the engine through the carbs that burns the pod filters

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Forgot to mention that Carb Icing was probibly unlikely. It was about 50 degrees out. I ment the bike itself was still cold, another words I hadn't let it warm up yet....Rob
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:25 PM   #1588
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Sighted my Elefant

Wish the snow would melt....



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Old 02-12-2009, 01:33 PM   #1589
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Wish the snow would melt....
I don't know... I had some fun in the snow today







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Old 02-24-2009, 10:13 PM   #1590
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This one looks cool,


More info http://www.motorcycledaily.com/20feb...va_elefant.htm
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