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Old 06-23-2014, 01:15 PM   #1
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your pick for "most complete" real world bike

And by most complete I mean:

--no cost cutting of major features (such as brakes, suspension, reasonable weight for class) Example: damping rod forks = disqualified. Other features debatable based on personal preference (ABS, T/C, riding modes, electronic suspension, comfort features, etc?)

I know real world bike is a loaded term, but for the sake of this discussion:

--reasonable ergos for average human (something you would take on a 1,000 mi weekend). great handling on a twisty back road, highway capable, city friendly, maybe a track day, sort of all-rounder. naked or fully faired is up to you.

--And no, your giant 800# cruiser isn't great handling on a back road. Or maybe you enjoy being folded up on your repli-racer for a 1,000 mile weekend tour, but not the average person.

Bonus points for bikes that check the boxes for the least $$. What are your value picks, bang for the buck, without going "cheap"
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Old 06-23-2014, 02:00 PM   #2
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What kind of question is this??


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Old 06-23-2014, 02:00 PM   #3
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KTM 1190 Adventure

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Old 06-23-2014, 02:27 PM   #4
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I was going to say KTM 1190 ADV, or my Multistrada - I did 1500 miles on it a few weeks ago, fantastic machine.
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:14 PM   #5
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Ninja 1000 or Street Triple R come to mind. I think the new VStrom 1000 has that potential, though might not wanna take it on a track day. Shoot, I did all those things on my Tuono, so I'll throw that in the ring, the used market is a beautiful thing :)
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:35 PM   #6
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Good brakes, suspenders, wriggle-free frame, good rubber, neutral riding position, belt drive, practically a maintenance free engine, good in town and backroads, and with a little flyscreen and some bags it can go anywhere.

One of the best all arounders offered in the last 20 years and were a fair price new. Now a bargain on the used market.
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Old 06-23-2014, 03:41 PM   #7
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:24 PM   #8
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So is this the craft the question to get a specific answer thread?

You're asking for a super subjective answer but you saddle it with a bunch of "requirements"

Seems a little off to me.
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Old 06-23-2014, 04:53 PM   #10
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Good brakes, suspenders, wriggle-free frame, good rubber, neutral riding position, belt drive, practically a maintenance free engine, good in town and backroads, and with a little flyscreen and some bags it can go anywhere.

One of the best all arounders offered in the last 20 years and were a fair price new. Now a bargain on the used market.
Huh? Underpowered, old school frame, obsolete suspension design (double rear shock), overweight, etc.. I think it's a nice, good looking roadster, but most modern nakeds walk all over it in terms of performance.
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Old 06-23-2014, 05:57 PM   #11
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Yeah, but in the case of looking for a real world bike that's complete, with points for cost savings, it's a superb entry. Mostly because it's greater than the sum of its spec sheet when you ride it.
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:02 PM   #12
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So is this the craft the question to get a specific answer thread?

You're asking for a super subjective answer but you saddle it with a bunch of "requirements"

Seems a little off to me.
saddled with "requirements" = objective part

the super subjective kind of rules out a specific answer doesn't it?

see the other replies - ninja 1k, street triple R, multistrada, 1190 adv, tuono

The XR and super ten though are kinda questionable, both pushing 600#,
I think the V-Stroms are out because of the bargain suspension

edit: the XR does look like a good effort from HD, haven't had the chance to ride one yet
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:13 PM   #13
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:17 PM   #14
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Good brakes, suspenders, wriggle-free frame, good rubber, neutral riding position, belt drive, practically a maintenance free engine, good in town and backroads, and with a little flyscreen and some bags it can go anywhere.

One of the best all arounders offered in the last 20 years and were a fair price new. Now a bargain on the used market.
I owned one (for some unknown reason) in 2007. It was brand new. After about 2,500 miles I classified it as a bike that didn't do ANYTHING particularly well. After about 3,000 miles it was finally returned to the dealer under the Texas state lemon law.
I certainly never had considered it a sport bike at all.

To answer the OP- So many bikes are so good today you have to know what you want to do with your bike or even own a few bikes. You would probably really like a Gen 6 VFR800. They are a fantastic value, do well on long trips, have a load of personality, but are a bit heavy and will get whipped up on at a track day, though you can still have fun.
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Old 06-23-2014, 06:20 PM   #15
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Just what part of this "world" you want to operate in?

Majority part of this world don't have nice pavement as the northern America continent.

For most parts of the world therr is no need for motorcycle larger than 250cc.
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