Triumph Scrambler

[bross]

Originally Posted by technikiller

Hey all, I bought a 2008 Scramber with just 1700 miles on the clock. I noticed some oil on the skid plate after I purchased it, so I torqued the drain plug to recommended spec. I just changed the oil the other day, replaced the crush washer and once again torqued to specs – I'm still getting some oil leakage from the drain plug/oil cooler line area. Anybody have this problem? Any suggestions? is the recommended torque spec not adequate?
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Jodie's Bonneville was doing that as well. Slow drip from the oil line. I checked the line and it was tight, but drip continued, so I removed the line and re-annealed the washer, and it's been drip free ever since.

the best way to fix it is to remove the two copper washers, one on each side of the "banjo" fitting, and anneal them, that is heat them up cherry-red with a propane torch and drop them into a dish of cool water. They will turn a kind of pinkish color and some scale may flake off the surface, this softens them up so they can make a good seal.

Or just replace the crush washer. I tried that and ordered what I thought was the proper washer from the dealer, but they handed me a tiny washer about 1/3 the size I needed, so that's why i just re-used the old one.

[ChrisLX200]

Originally Posted by blacktiger

So who spotted the rozzers parked up on the right at 2m36secs?

And Chris, you're wearing my Jacket.

er. The car in front - saw his brake lights as I was preparing to take him before the bend. Should have known better as that is a favourite place for the cops to sit. You notice the 2million quids worth of brand new Average Speed Cams? What a crock! Once you get past the first one you're free to do whatever so long as you pull in to the 'pitstop' (Cat 'n Fiddle pub) before carrying on. What a waste of money. They were also supposed to save on policing costs but they're still all over the place earning overtime.

Glad to see you have such good taste in jackets

[ChrisLX200]

Originally Posted by bross

Jodie's Bonneville was doing that as well. Slow drip from the oil line. I checked the line and it was tight, but drip continued, so I removed the line and re-annealed the washer, and it's been drip free ever since.

the best way to fix it is to remove the two copper washers, one on each side of the "banjo" fitting, and anneal them, that is heat them up cherry-red with a propane torch and drop them into a dish of cool water. They will turn a kind of pinkish color and some scale may flake off the surface, this softens them up so they can make a good seal.

Or just replace the crush washer. I tried that and ordered what I thought was the proper washer from the dealer, but they handed me a tiny washer about 1/3 the size I needed, so that's why i just re-used the old one.

Be real careful not to over-tighten though. I sincerely hope the sump on the Scram is better made than that on the Tiger1050, a few have cracked their sump by adding an extra 'tweak' because it's a weak casting. One owner got it welded up, another just replaced it at considerable cost. I like the anealing idea but it shouldn't be necessary with a new washer - maybe you got some grit in the (drain bolt) joint preventing it sealing?

[blacktiger]

Originally Posted by ChrisLX200

You notice the 2million quids worth of brand new Average Speed Cams? What a crock! Once you get past the first one you're free to do whatever so long as you pull in to the 'pitstop' (Cat 'n Fiddle pub) before carrying on. What a waste of money. They were also supposed to save on policing costs but they're still all over the place earning overtime.

Glad to see you have such good taste in jackets

I read in MCN that there's a circuit that excludes the cameras completely.
Also that there's a short cut that has a 60mph limit which is shorter than the 50mph route. So, if you take the short cut you can get to the next camera early and trigger it without breaking the law. Bloody fiddle if you ask me.

Good jackets aren't they? I bought mine in the sale at the beginning of this year. Can't go wrong at £140.

[MightyChosen1]

ChrisLX200, That is some pretty cool video, How does the cam stay so steady? I'm impressed by the quality for the price of the cam. If it had the option to mount a remote mic near the exhaust it would really add to the experience.


Do you guys know your driving on the wrong side of the road?

[Mista Vern]

Originally Posted by bross

the best way to fix it is to remove the two copper washers, one on each side of the "banjo" fitting, and anneal them, that is heat them up cherry-red with a propane torch and drop them into a dish of cool water. They will turn a kind of pinkish color and some scale may flake off the surface, this softens them up so they can make a good seal.

Ah, good old old-school metallurgy! FYI: air cooling gives the softest results while quick drenching (as above) makes the washers harder, but not as hard as pre-annealing.

[blacktiger]

Originally Posted by Furious D

Do you guys know your driving on the wrong side of the road?

No we're driving on the correct side that's why, when you park the bike on the side stand, it leans towards the curb over here. Ever wondered why that is? Even Harleys, Ducatis and BMWs (made in right hand drive countries) have their side stand on the left because they know it's safer to dismount on the curb side. You know?

[bross]

Originally Posted by ChrisLX200

Be real careful not to over-tighten though. I sincerely hope the sump on the Scram is better made than that on the Tiger1050, a few have cracked their sump by adding an extra 'tweak' because it's a weak casting. One owner got it welded up, another just replaced it at considerable cost. I like the anealing idea but it shouldn't be necessary with a new washer - maybe you got some grit in the (drain bolt) joint preventing it sealing?

I'm old school and go by feel and can't remember the last time I ever stripped something so no worries, just checked it to make sure it wasn't just loose. I agree about the washer, I'm thinking that they must have got a bad batch of washers from the number of riders with leaks at the hose connections. The annealing worked fine on Jodie's and no leaks in two years.

[Krahe]

Originally Posted by Mista Vern

Ah, good old old-school metallurgy! FYI: air cooling gives the softest results while quick drenching (as above) makes the washers harder, but not as hard as pre-annealing.

You sounded correct to me Vern but I checked anyways and it turns out copper is different, from wikipedia:

"In the cases of copper, steel, silver, and brass this process is performed by substantially heating the material (generally until glowing) for a while and allowing it to cool. Unlike ferrous metals--which must be cooled slowly to anneal--copper, silver^[1] and brass can be cooled slowly in air or quickly by quenching in water. In this fashion the metal is softened and prepared for further work such as shaping, stamping, or forming."

You are both right.

[Mista Vern]

Good info, Krahe - thanks!

[technikiller]

Originally Posted by bross

Jodie's Bonneville was doing that as well. Slow drip from the oil line. I checked the line and it was tight, but drip continued, so I removed the line and re-annealed the washer, and it's been drip free ever since.

Thanks for the info!
Do any of you fellas happen to know if pulling that line will drain the whole pan, or is there a pump or check-valve right inside there?

(Trying to decide whether to try and fix it now, or wait until my next oil change)

Thanks.

[bross]

Originally Posted by technikiller

Thanks for the info!
Do any of you fellas happen to know if pulling that line will drain the whole pan, or is there a pump or check-valve right inside there?

(Trying to decide whether to try and fix it now, or wait until my next oil change)

Thanks.

I think I just pulled it.

[Gormley Green]

Originally Posted by blacktiger

TORs are louder. The difference in the UK is that the Arrow is road legal, the TORs are not. I don't know the actual difference in DBa.

Cheers

Basically all I wanted to know is which system was louder, but if anyone else has anything to throw in I'd love to hear it.

[TheNaker]

I'm looking to pick up a carbbed Scrambler. Is there anywhere I can find out if there are any differences in the 2006-2008 model year? I think I read somewhere that the hubs may have changed.

Thanks for any input.

Sean

[TStorm]

Just came home from work, and there were two boxes in front of my door. Lugged them inside, took off my uniform, and cut open the cardboard to find the parts I had ordered for the bike!

I now have a nice windscreen to make long distances or highways more comfortable, and 2 large 20mm ammo cans for use as saddlebags. Those cans are massive, and heavy, but will look oh so good on the matte green scram when mounted next to my army gerry can.

Too bad I don't have a bike at the moment to do a mock-up with.