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Old 06-23-2010, 02:07 PM   #9796
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Just rattle can it with some rustoleum,its only a 1000.00 gas tank. I'd maybe call a painter?
I wasnt looking for tips on how to paint, I can do that. I Just asked a simple question on the type of paint the factory uses. If I wanted a rattle-can paint job on a bike I'd buy one of the 200 new models available with a flat black paint scheme.

Find me a bodyshop with a short turnaround time and I will give them the job otherwise STFU.
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Old 06-23-2010, 02:15 PM   #9797
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I wasnt looking for tips on how to paint, I can do that. I Just asked a simple question on the type of paint the factory uses. If I wanted a rattle-can paint job on a bike I'd buy one of the 200 new models available with a flat black paint scheme.

Find me a bodyshop with a short turnaround time and I will give them the job otherwise STFU.
I am truly sorry for my smart Ass tendencies,it just pops out in print before I know what happened.
Maybe just a really good brush job would do the trick?

There I go again,dang it!
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Old 06-23-2010, 02:35 PM   #9798
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I am truly sorry for my smart Ass tendencies,it just pops out in print before I know what happened.
Maybe just a really good brush job would do the trick?

There I go again,dang it!
No harm done, I get a little irritable after working in 130 degree plus temps all day.


Never thought of a brush. Do you recomend latex or oil based?

Yeah I know I misspelled lacquer, Its the heat.
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Old 06-23-2010, 02:54 PM   #9799
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No harm done, I get a little irritable after working in 130 degree plus temps all day.


Never thought of a brush. Do you recomend latex or oil based?

Yeah I know I misspelled lacquer, Its the heat.
Thas OK, I can't spel well after some liquor either...
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:13 PM   #9800
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No harm done, I get a little irritable after working in 130 degree plus temps all day.


Never thought of a brush. Do you recomend latex or oil based?

Yeah I know I misspelled lacquer, Its the heat.
Home Depot has some nice smaller rollers for detail work like your doing,get the fine texture ones for a smooth finish. Cabinet enamel should do the trick along with some pinstripe tape to replace Triumph's pin striping.
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Old 06-23-2010, 03:18 PM   #9801
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... or have an eye open on ebay, bought my black tank there.
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Old 06-23-2010, 08:52 PM   #9802
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Different view.

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I think your scram is the best looking one I've seen. Did you need new wires and cables to accommodate the new bars? Who makes those bars? Are you running no directionals?

Awesome ride. Love the tank. Peace.
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Old 06-23-2010, 11:44 PM   #9803
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I think your scram is the best looking one I've seen. Did you need new wires and cables to accommodate the new bars? Who makes those bars? Are you running no directionals?

Awesome ride. Love the tank. Peace.
Thanks sark!
No need for new wires or cables. Don't know the make of the bars. Directionals are well hidden thanks to the smoked lenses, they are DRC Led's that I bought from Wheeling Cycle Supply. I made new brackets from steel tube for them. The rear ones are placed right behind the shocks, there is an unused threaded hole on the inside of the frame, at least on my '06.
Tank is easy, just filled the tankbadge holes with white filler and put stickers on instead! And the knee rubbers are from a late '60's Trumpet.

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Old 06-23-2010, 11:45 PM   #9804
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And here's the rear bracket.

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Old 06-24-2010, 12:23 PM   #9805
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Cracked Frame!

I don 't know if any of you have followed, but I have tried to make the solo seat and rack usable for more than 11 pounds of weight.
I have made a support for the underseat to keep the seat/rack from compressing down.
I have run a bracket from the exhaust hanger to reduce/eliminate rocking/vibration from a seat that basically 'floats' in its riding position.
I have come up with a pretty secure set-up that is decently solid, keeping the high pipe bike looking good.

Well on my recent trip which included 260 miles of off-pavement, I've cracked my frame in the process. Only 80 of the off-pavement miles going in had the full weight of my gear (apprx 50 lbs). And that was at sedate speeds.
After that it was about 16 pounds of roto pax & fuel.

Got me!

After clean up I found the cracks.

Her is my support, in which the rack bolts rested upon as clearly seen.



Here is the underside of the solo seat with no less than eight rubber pads and my rubber mounted cross piece.



And here is the cracked rear stamped sheetmetal crossmember. OOF
Its amazing to me the stock two-up seat can handle the weight where the two bolts go in, as that is where my frame cracked.



Which all mounted up like this.



Support bracket.



Ya it didn't handle it.
I have spent a fair amount fabbing pieces/parts and I could fab another bracket using the four threaded holes in the cracked crossmember.
But I have spent enough time/money for a cracked frame.
I will probably not continue to pursue the heavy ADV touring angle with the Scrambler.
I have finally realized it is the wrong bike for the job. There are many weak areas.
The Triumph will get pounded into the ground IMHO.
I just knew I was beating on it in the back country...
I'll weld up the cracks and be done with it.

Utilizing the treaded holes & cross member and mounts off the pegs seem like the route to go.

Oh, the stock sized 130/80-17 TCK knobby rubbed my tail light harness to shreds.
Maybe more up-travel with the Works shocks? Dunno.

Still I love the Scrambler. But back to Roadster status for awhile.
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:54 PM   #9806
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I don 't know if any of you have followed, but I have tried to make the solo seat and rack usable for more than 11 pounds of weight.
I have made a support for the underseat to keep the seat/rack from compressing down.
I have run a bracket from the exhaust hanger to reduce/eliminate rocking/vibration from a seat that basically 'floats' in its riding position.
I have come up with a pretty secure set-up that is decently solid, keeping the high pipe bike looking good.

Well on my recent trip which included 260 miles of off-pavement, I've cracked my frame in the process. Only 80 of the off-pavement miles going in had the full weight of my gear (apprx 50 lbs). And that was at sedate speeds.
After that it was about 16 pounds of roto pax & fuel.

Got me!

After clean up I found the cracks.

Her is my support, in which the rack bolts rested upon as clearly seen.



Here is the underside of the solo seat with no less than eight rubber pads and my rubber mounted cross piece.



And here is the cracked rear stamped sheetmetal crossmember. OOF
Its amazing to me the stock two-up seat can handle the weight where the two bolts go in, as that is where my frame cracked.



Which all mounted up like this.



Support bracket.



Ya it didn't handle it.
I have spent a fair amount fabbing pieces/parts and I could fab another bracket using the four threaded holes in the cracked crossmember.
But I have spent enough time/money for a cracked frame.
I will probably not continue to pursue the heavy ADV touring angle with the Scrambler.
I have finally realized it is the wrong bike for the job. There are many weak areas.
The Triumph will get pounded into the ground IMHO.
I just knew I was beating on it in the back country...
I'll weld up the cracks and be done with it.

Utilizing the treaded holes & cross member and mounts off the pegs seem like the route to go.

Oh, the stock sized 130/80-17 TCK knobby rubbed my tail light harness to shreds.
Maybe more up-travel with the Works shocks? Dunno.

Still I love the Scrambler. But back to Roadster status for awhile.
Ive been watching your attempts and maybe a 990 IS in your future,Ive been a dirt rider since about 1972 and could pretty much tell the Triumph wasnt meant for dirt riding especially loaded touring after seeing your determined attempts to make it do so.
For my beat up lower back the twin shock thing just doesnt work,beats my body to death over any sharp bumps. Funny thing is I dont feel those kind of bumps at all on my low tech DR650. Im also pretty sure my buddies 1976 BMW R75/6 makes about the same amount of power as my Scrambler.
The Scrambler is a cool looking bike,be nice if Triumph had put more effort into function then they did into styling.
Im off for another 400 mile dualsport ride this weekend,riding in chase guy position,fixing any problems that might arise with the 30 or so guys that signed up. Should be nice over on the coast.
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Old 06-24-2010, 01:14 PM   #9807
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I don 't know if any of you have followed, but I have tried to make the solo seat and rack usable for more than 11 pounds of weight.
I'm carrying a darned sight more than 11 pounds to Norway with me on mine....



Could it be that your bracing has transferred the forces to a place that can't handle it? i.e. moving the forces from the rubber bungs to the seat bolts?
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Old 06-24-2010, 01:19 PM   #9808
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Could it be that your bracing has transferred the forces to a place that can't handle it?
I was going to suggest the same thing. Lots of us run custom setups, or the Ventura system like me. Or even a pillion.
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Old 06-24-2010, 01:59 PM   #9809
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Could it be that your bracing has transferred the forces to a place that can't handle it? i.e. moving the forces from the rubber bungs to the seat bolts?
I think that is quite possible.
I put support under the front rack bolts. I also need to support the rear rack bolts, which I did not.
I thought the rear seat bolts would be enough, but quite obviously not.

I'll keep brainstorming!
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Old 06-24-2010, 02:24 PM   #9810
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Could it be that your bracing has transferred the forces to a place that can't handle it? i.e. moving the forces from the rubber bungs to the seat bolts?

bt might have hit the nail on the head here. vibration & jarring etc etc. How about a couple mills of rubber and extra load points?

edit" D'oh; just saw you had rubber mounting...you can ignore me.

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