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Old 08-04-2011, 03:32 PM   #13531
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Hi all,

I've been reading this thread from the beginning and I'm slowly catching up. Much good info here.

About a month ago I bought a Scram and did a fly-n-ride. I took the long way home and ended up riding about 4,000 miles through the western US, British Columbia, the Yukon Territory, and Alaska. I rode a bit of everything including slab, two lane, and gravel Forest Service roads. The bike did great.

Thanks to the good folks who have kept this thread going, I already have a short list of mods for this winter.

Cheers!
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:32 PM   #13532
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A friend was telling me about how smooth the triumph twins are saying it was one of the smoothest bikes he's been on. Are they really that good? If so I might have to add it on my list of possible bikes which would be great since the scrambler's looks make me
13k+ post on 900+ pages of people bitching about how lame this bike is, and you come in here and ask this question?
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:57 PM   #13533
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Hi all,

I've been reading this thread from the beginning and I'm slowly catching up. Much good info here.

About a month ago I bought a Scram and did a fly-n-ride. I took the long way home and ended up riding about 4,000 miles through the western US, British Columbia, the Yukon Territory, and Alaska. I rode a bit of everything including slab, two lane, and gravel Forest Service roads. The bike did great.

Thanks to the good folks who have kept this thread going, I already have a short list of mods for this winter.

Cheers!
Wow! Great "long way home"!
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Old 08-04-2011, 06:55 PM   #13534
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Its silly (ok foolish) to remove an oil cooler from an air cooled bike.
Sure you can do it, but the oil cooler is a great opportunity to get that hot oil outside of your hot motor for cooling purposes. Duh
Go ahead, sit in traffic with your oil cooler removed.
Go ahead, run across the desert with your oil cooler removed!
Go ahead!

The DR 650 Suzook comes with an oil cooler...
Honda XR650L's put them on to help cool the oil.
XR 400's came with one...
If you have ever followed the XR650L thread, they are getting their oil temps down by adding a oil cooler, keeping it away from the dreaded 300 deg mark.

Its a smart way to extend the life of your motor.
Common sense fellas.
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:37 PM   #13535
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agreed.

It looks nice and clean without the oil cooler in front of the engine but it's not practical.
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:37 PM   #13536
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Its silly (ok foolish) to remove an oil cooler from an air cooled bike.
Sure you can do it, but the oil cooler is a great opportunity to get that hot oil outside of your hot motor for cooling purposes.
Although I agree with the benefits, I wouldn't call it foolish. It depends on the bike, where and how you ride, and the climate. With the Jack Pine, I heard they monitored engine temps and pulled her apart after testing and found no issues. It'd be good to see results of actual temp differences in different conditions to see if and where the benefits are had. Not all bikes even nowadays have oil coolers from the factory, my sporty is only air cooled and I've never had overheating issues, even in 38C weather in heavy traffic.
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Old 08-04-2011, 07:57 PM   #13537
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13k+ post on 900+ pages of people bitching about how lame this bike is, and you come in here and ask this question?
Right now I care about finding a smooth light-ish upright motorcycle and I'll overlook a lot to get there.......like this thread
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:12 PM   #13538
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Not all bikes even nowadays have oil coolers from the factory, my sporty is only air cooled and I've never had overheating issues, even in 38C weather in heavy traffic.
I hear ya Nitro.
But maybe your Sporty oil could run 50 deg cooler with a oil cooler.
Just a thought.
Oh, and I believe in thermostat controlled (or bypass) oil coolers too, as its also important to have your oil come up to temp also. As in riding down the road first thing in the morning when your motor and air temp is cool.

We always thought an oil cooler was a trick add on and looked cool.
I feel that way with the Scrambler cooler.
JMHO!
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:21 AM   #13539
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While we're on the subject - Does anyone know if the Scram oil cooler has a thermostat controlled by-pass?
I bought the Scram to be my year round commuter. So I 'll be riding in snow, ice and temps can get down below 0F. (Wow, when you say that out loud it really does sound kinda stupid, LOL). For the last 5 years I've been using water cooled bike, (KLR and a Strom) and I have some minor concerns about maintaining engine temps on an air cooled bike.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:45 AM   #13540
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While we're on the subject - Does anyone know if the Scram oil cooler has a thermostat controlled by-pass?
I bought the Scram to be my year round commuter. So I 'll be riding in snow, ice and temps can get down below 0F. (Wow, when you say that out loud it really does sound kinda stupid, LOL). For the last 5 years I've been using water cooled bike, (KLR and a Strom) and I have some minor concerns about maintaining engine temps on an air cooled bike.
My scram has only been run down to about 20F, the key is to let the bike get nice and warm before you start riding.
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:53 PM   #13541
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...We always though an oil cooler was a trick add on and looked cool.
I feel that way with the Scrambler cooler.
JMHO!
Yep, this is the one we added to our endurance roadracer.

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Old 08-05-2011, 12:56 PM   #13542
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13k+ post on 900+ pages of people bitching about how lame this bike is, and you come in here and ask this question?
What ARE you going on about? People bitching about how lame the Scrambler is? Do you have a reading comprehension issue or did someone just piss in your Frosted Flakes?
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Old 08-05-2011, 02:21 PM   #13543
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A friend was telling me about how smooth the triumph twins are saying it was one of the smoothest bikes he's been on. Are they really that good? If so I might have to add it on my list of possible bikes which would be great since the scrambler's looks make me
Going to CroMag? You can take a spin on my '06.
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Old 08-05-2011, 08:37 PM   #13544
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Going to CroMag? You can take a spin on my '06.
Not this year, I'm hoping to make it up there for the next one but there is just no knowing when the nerves will heal enough to handle it. But thanks for the offer.
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Old 08-05-2011, 11:55 PM   #13545
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While we're on the subject - Does anyone know if the Scram oil cooler has a thermostat controlled by-pass?
I bought the Scram to be my year round commuter. So I 'll be riding in snow, ice and temps can get down below 0F. (Wow, when you say that out loud it really does sound kinda stupid, LOL). For the last 5 years I've been using water cooled bike, (KLR and a Strom) and I have some minor concerns about maintaining engine temps on an air cooled bike.
The pre EFI Scrams are very basic bikes. No thermostat on the oil cooler.

BTW, I think Kinky said "presence" and it is spelled Friedman.
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