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Old 12-13-2011, 07:23 AM   #2326
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genuine tubeless X-laced 21/18 BMW rims to R1100GS,,Possible??? ,,,$$$,,,???

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Hi Woody,

Don't know if it's been asked before, can't find any info, but can you fit R100/80GS 21" front 18" rear tubeless rims into R1100GS hubs to make true tubeless 21"/18" wheels for R1100GS??? (I don't want any superlace etc superstrong wheels, I need a true tubeless 21"/18" solution)

If yes, how much it'd cost to make 'em if I send you the R1100 hubs and R80/100 rims?

PS: Provided it's possible to make 'em, do you also anodize rims? (My original 19"/17" are anodized and they are a joy to clean and maintain, but I know the older (Akront?) GS rims are bastards in those terms since they corrode, so wondering if separately anadozing the rims is a solution for it)

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Hi margus,

We can build up the wheels with the tubeless rims.

The front 21'' is no problem, it would be 200 for spokes and 150 for labor, if the rim is straight.

The rear r100gs is a 17'' but the R100R front uses a 2.5x18. There is no oem spokes that will work so we would need to use aftermarket Stainless spokes/nipples. WE do have to re-drill the rim/hub to make the spokes/nipples point in the right direction. The front 2.5x18 rims are drilled for the smaller hubs. It would be 200 for labor, and 200 for the spoke kit.

We can anodize or powder-coat the rims.. If it's been dinged up or oxidized it would be best to powder-coat the rims to cover the finish. Otherwise if we anodized the rims it would show all the corrosion on them.. It's 65 per rim to powder-coat most colors.

If you have any other questions, you can email us at woodyswheelworks@gmail.com

thanks zach and the crew
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Old 12-13-2011, 08:30 AM   #2327
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Hey Woody!
Just bought a 1977 Commando 850 mklll down here in Colombia
What size and width of rims would you recommend for a good handling Commando!
I,d prefer handling than an original bike-I will be upgrading suspension and brakes!
Better that way here what with the drivers and the road conditions!
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:15 AM   #2328
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Hey Woody!
Just bought a 1977 Commando 850 mklll down here in Colombia
What size and width of rims would you recommend for a good handling Commando!
I,d prefer handling than an original bike-I will be upgrading suspension and brakes!
Better that way here what with the drivers and the road conditions!
Cheers Al
hi al,,,

for all you Commando-philes ,,we 've done dozens of these upgrades especially the road racing crowd...

the most common conversion was a 2.15x18 front and 2.5x18 rear

get rid of the chrome plated discs by switching to better ones or having the discs turned/re-surfaced just enough to get rid of the chrome [circa $30 ea],,,plain cast discs work really well,,however are prone to rusting,,,,the rust of course will build up on the brake pads,,,which of course can easily be removed with a little 320 grit regular or wet/dry sand-paper

holler when you are ready
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Old 12-13-2011, 10:56 AM   #2329
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2.5 x18 excel riim with cracked dimples,,,causes ???,,Rx=???

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G'day Woody,
You guys built some wheels for me a few years ago. I've probably put about 10,000km on them, I've noticed a crack next to one of the nipples on the rim.
In a recent post you mention that you countersink the nipples when you superlace, reckon that would have contributed to this? (see pics)

G'day mate,,,

FYI ,,,this is not the first time that we have run across this problem,,,it has been mainly confined to the 2.5x18 or 19''excel rim...the narrow nature of this extrusion and dimpling puts alot of stress in a confined space...

we have also tracked down that the majority of these incidences[3-4 at most] were exacerbated by over-tightening of the nipples by one of my overzealous technicians...he thought if tight was good, tighter would be better all these incidences stem circa 3 years ago...everyone was reminded that there are distinct parameters to abide by.and have had none fail since.

FYI,,,our countersinking is essentially confined to a slight cut that matches the exact direction of the spoke and matches the mating surface to the nipple. so IMHO,,,it hasn't ever been ascertained as the cause of the cracking...OBTW our suppliers reported that we weren't the only ones reporting this problem...

i believe we have as a good will gesture replaced the rim at cost and tossed in the Superlace prep[ie the re-angling/countersinking process],,even though they are out of the one year warranty period....since you are down -under,,,and it's X-mas,,we'll mail it down on our dime
will that work for you???
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:17 PM   #2330
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That's a great goodwill gesture mate!
I'll endeavor to dig up my original invoice as requested.
You'd also be pretty close to the 3 year mark on the build, I reckon it was January '09 when I bought them.

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Old 12-14-2011, 12:13 AM   #2331
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:51 AM   #2332
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Hi Woody,

I am thinking about building my own set of wheels for my 950 Adv. Starting with the rear, I'm looking at going with an silver Excell 3.5x18 plus spokes. I would like to have you guys build these, but I really need to save $. Plus I have the tools and knowledge to do this on my own. Do you redrill all of your rims, or just the ones for oversized spokes?

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Old 12-14-2011, 08:47 AM   #2333
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Hi Woody,

I am thinking about building my own set of wheels for my 950 Adv. Starting with the rear, I'm looking at going with an silver Excell 3.5x18 plus spokes. I would like to have you guys build these, but I really need to save $. Plus I have the tools and knowledge to do this on my own. Do you redrill all of your rims, or just the ones for oversized spokes?

Thanks
a smoking deal is getting a Superlace kit,,,
a,,,rim silver excel=$236
b,,, drilled/countersunk/re-angled for Superlace patterns = $30,,,,plus
c,,,optimally sized spoke/nipple kit = $135[ss n ss] or $115 [ss n zartan/nickel platted steel nipples]
d,,,plus S&H circa $15-25
e,,,and if ya screw up,,ya have a parachute

=awesome deal

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Old 12-14-2011, 08:49 AM   #2334
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Old 12-19-2011, 08:43 AM   #2335
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Hey Woody,

Any sign of those double sig Excel rims factory black yet....I'm getting anxious for my wheels for my F 800 GS.... 18/21.
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:06 PM   #2336
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Any sign of those double sig Excel rims factory black yet....I'm getting anxious for my wheels for my F 800 GS.... 18/21.
sorry,,,the importer is clueless,and will give me a heads -up after checking again
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Old 12-19-2011, 06:13 PM   #2337
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supere Tenere spoke loosening issues and Rx,,,

here's a request for info on the matter,,,via an e-mail from PS:

''I noticed there is a potential long term problem with the spokes on the new Yamaha SuperTenere and wondered if you had any ideas. I don't believe I will be affected, but some on the ST forum who use their bikes extensively and roughly off-road are breaking spokes frequently. It doesn't seem normal. I've thought about it and it seems that the nipples are backing off, allowing too much spoke flex and resulting spoke fatigue. My theory is that because the nipples are at the hub, they experience a lot more flexing than if they were at the rim. I'm sure spokes stretch and compress under load and it seems that combined with drive torque at the hub, the nipples and spokes would loosen/fatigue at a higher rate.

My thought would be to use a longer spoke combined with some sort of seating washer (perhaps conical or round to allow radial movement) at the hub combined with a nylok nut to retain tightness of the spoke. On the forum they've come up with bandaids such as LocTite (not an answer, in my opinion) and simple zip tying the spokes to keep them from damaging other parts of the bike when the spokes fail. Neither of those address the basic problem.

Maybe you could come up with some ideas. If my solution is something you could develop, feel free.

Thanks,PS''

BWOE: here's a pic of parts on bmw style X-laced tubeless wheel

FYI the set screw is screwed into the end of the nipple like a jam nut after everything is trued n toqrued down properly..so we made new beefy ss spokes AND ss nipples ,,they look gorgeous,,and then jammed with a zinc plated set/grub screw.....the new ss nipple is long enough so that no threads will be exposed like the shlock oem rendition

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Old 12-20-2011, 12:33 AM   #2338
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sorry,,,the importer is clueless,and will give me a heads -up after checking again
w
I keep checking this thread every couple days, hoping. I won't see them until April anyway, I guess I'm just anxious to give you my money!
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Old 12-20-2011, 09:43 AM   #2339
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I keep checking this thread every couple days, hoping. I won't see them until April anyway, I guess I'm just anxious to give you my money!
Me too....I want my new wheels!!!
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Old 12-22-2011, 12:54 AM   #2340
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Hey,

What would it cost me to get my 2000 KLR650 rear rim remade with a black 18" CACR in whatever width you recommend? Would new spokes be needed? Cheers
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