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Old 04-15-2008, 10:07 PM   #766
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Cafe build wheel questions

I've been daydreaming about a project I'm about to start. As part of that project, I'd like to work over the wheels. I have a 69-71 Honda CB175 with front and rear drum. I'd like to pull the hubs off and powdercoat them black while converting the hoops and spokes to black anodized aluminum to match (excel or DID?). Can you PM me with some ballpark figures on what I should budget? Also, the sizes of the stock tires are 2.75x18 and 3x18...I was wondering if a tire rim width change might make getting conventional street tires easier than the vintage sizes.

Any advice or guidance is appreciated.

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Old 04-17-2008, 06:16 AM   #767
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I've been daydreaming about a project I'm about to start. As part of that project, I'd like to work over the wheels. I have a 69-71 Honda CB175 with front and rear drum. I'd like to pull the hubs off and powdercoat them black while converting the hoops and spokes to black anodized aluminum to match (excel or DID?). Can you PM me with some ballpark figures on what I should budget? Also, the sizes of the stock tires are 2.75x18 and 3x18...I was wondering if a tire rim width change might make getting conventional street tires easier than the vintage sizes.

Any advice or guidance is appreciated.

Thanks
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sean,,,we can handle ALL of the above services,,,circa $700 w stronger ss spokes and zartan nippleas,,,does not include tires

regarding tires,,,,i have to ask,,,what is your intended use for this dream bike?,,,and how much clearance do you have on the existing tire sizes????

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Old 04-18-2008, 05:24 PM   #768
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Old 04-19-2008, 02:47 PM   #769
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950 Adv superlacing...

Sorry to be redundant- I have this in another post in the Vendor area! I’ll take down the previous posting.

Back in Dec, Chris @ Woody’s helped me with an order; a new front rim & spokes with a Superlace pattern for my ‘05 950 Adv. I’ve put-off building the wheel long enough and I finally unassembled the front wheel this AM.
I checked out http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/superlace.htm to get a better understanding of how to lace the wheel, but I still had a couple of quick questions:

1) Do I apply the brown/reddish fluid to the threads on the end of the spokes (I know, embarrassing Q- go ahead, get out of your system guys!). Is that a thread lock or lube?

2) Is there a larger picture that illustrates how the Superlace looks on the wheel once completed? I’m having a hard time getting my walnut-sized brain wrapped around the Superlace pattern. From the pic on the website, is it safe to conclude every spoke will connect to the rim at that ‘near 90 degree angle’ when using the hub’s diameter as a reference?

I’m sure there’s probably a clearer way to ask these questions, so I’m keeping my fingers crossed!

Thanks in advance for the feedback!
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:37 AM   #770
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the rudiments of lacing up you wheel using the SUPERLACE pattern...

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Back in Dec, Chris @ Woody’s helped me with an order; a new front rim & spokes with a Superlace pattern for my ‘05 950 Adv. I’ve put-off building the wheel long enough and I finally unassembled the front wheel this AM.
I checked out http://www.woodyswheelworks.com/superlace.htm to get a better understanding of how to lace the wheel, but I still had a couple of quick questions:

1) Do I apply the brown/reddish fluid to the threads on the end of the spokes (I know, embarrassing Q- go ahead, get out of your system guys!). Is that a thread lock or lube?

the hat fluid is a special formulated anti-seize to be used when tightening ss on ss

2) Is there a larger picture that illustrates how the Superlace looks on the wheel once completed? I’m having a hard time getting my walnut-sized brain wrapped around the Superlace pattern. From the pic on the website, is it safe to conclude every spoke will connect to the rim at that ‘near 90 degree angle’ when using the hub’s diameter as a reference?

Thanks in advance for the feedback!
your rim was predrilled and countersunk for the new improved x-3 pattern,,,,your oem wheel used a x=2 pattern,,,,assemble the spokes in the hub and 'wind them up so that the spokes going the opposite direction cross 3 spokes going the opposite way,,,,align rim so that when you put the nipple in it points to the spoke that is in alignment with it ,,,do that 36 times and start to snug nipples evenly,,,check the centering left and right,,,,keep on truing your wheel til you are satisfied ,,hopefuly you get to a point where the radial and axial run-out are +/- .020'' 0r less in ALL directions

afterwards,,,:sup er



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Old 04-21-2008, 10:25 AM   #771
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your rim was predrilled and countersunk for the new improved x-3 pattern,,,,your oem wheel used a x=2 pattern,,,,assemble the spokes in the hub and 'wind them up so that the spokes going the opposite direction cross 3 spokes going the opposite way,,,,align rim so that when you put the nipple in it points to the spoek that is in alignment with it ,,,do that 36 times and start to snug nipples evenly,,,check the centering left and right,,,,keep on truing your wheel til you are satisfied ,,hopefuly you get to a point where the radial and axial run-out are +/- .020'' 0r less in ALL directions

afterwards,,,:sup er



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I think I understand!
So using a clock’s face as a reference, if I had a spoke pointing to 10:00, that spoke would have 3 spokes crossing its path – say to 12:00, 2:00 and 3:00?
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:40 PM   #772
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how to tell your lace pattern...once more

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I think I understand!
So using a clock’s face as a reference, if I had a spoke pointing to 10:00, that spoke would have 3 spokes crossing its path – say to 12:00, 2:00 and 3:00?

when you follow the path of one spoke from the hub to the rim.....

count how many spoke going in the opposite direction that you have crossed..

that equals the lace pattern,,,ie cross none= radial lace,,,cross 1spoke=x1,,,cross 2=x2 etc

the smaller the hub diameter the more crossing you'll need ,,conversely,,,the larger the diameter of hub for the same diameter rim you'll need less crosses to get that optimal 90degree angle


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Old 04-22-2008, 07:39 AM   #773
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These photos are from a custom Hawk GT 650 Project.,,,,,the idea is to make awire wheeled dual sport out of the road-bike,,,,since the original mags were inappropriately sized and had a rather large dish/offset to the left on the rear wheel,,,we had a few hurdles to overcome,,,VOILA,,,a few months later thanks to reconfiguring a Superlite BMW rear hub we lucked out,,,,Buchanans custom drilled a4.25x17 excel to my specs,,,,we missed the center'line of the bike and the centerline of the wheel by a whopping.0005''
the front wheel was straightforward 21'' using RAD hub

Below are a couple photos of the rear wheel. Comments and more photos to follow:



left side view with spindle/axle in place,,,,



right side view of rear wheel with mounting cone and axle nut,,,,



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Old 04-22-2008, 10:44 AM   #774
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From another Woody thread:
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So I spoke with Woody again today and the options at this point (for the X Challenge) are:

1. use BMW OEM hubs and superlace to Excel rims
+ less expensive and no customization required
+ yields good strong wheelset
- no trick looking, lighter hubs

2. use RAD KTM hubs, use KTM rear rotor and sprocket set, use stock front rotor, add some Woody work and superlace to Excel rims
+ trick RAD hubs
+ yields good strong wheelset
- requires using KTM rear rotor and sprocket
- slightly more money since can't re-use BMW rear rotor/sprocket

3. wait until RAD or someone else is willing to make BMW XCh specific billet hubs...Woody is currently tied up with the HP2/R12GS custom hubs

I chose option #1 for my purposes...I don't care about bling. That said, Woody is great to work with and will build almost anything you come up with.

Woody or Chris: please correct me if I didn't capture the currently available options correctly
Woody, a couple questions:
1) Are these still the options for X-challenge wheels or have you made your superlite hubs for the X-Challenge?

2) Do the RAD KTM hubs use larger bearings than the stock X-Challenge hubs?

3) When I've decided on a desired configuration and want a quote, should I call you, send you a PM on here, or email you?

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Old 04-22-2008, 11:15 AM   #775
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From another Woody thread:

Woody, a couple questions:
1) Are these still the options for X-challenge wheels or have you made your superlite hubs for the X-Challenge?

still in hibernation

2) Do the RAD KTM hubs use larger bearings than the stock X-Challenge hubs?

can't pull that answer off the top of my head,,,,i believe they were bigger and i basicallu swapped bearings and spacers

3) When I've decided on a desired configuration and want a quote, should I call you, send you a PM on here, or email you?

any of the above works

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thank u 2,,,waiting to hear from you
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Old 04-22-2008, 11:23 AM   #776
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Hey Woody and crew,

I have a bungled rear wheel on my 2000 1150GS. I need 7 spokes and seven nipples and no dealers have them and they're months out from the factory in Germany. Do you have any spokes/nipples you'd be willing to sell? Or do you only build wheels and such?

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Old 04-22-2008, 11:40 AM   #777
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we've got the parts,,,but do you have what it takes to fix it????

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Hey Woody and crew,

I have a bungled rear wheel on my 2000 1150GS. I need 7 spokes and seven nipples and no dealers have them and they're months out from the factory in Germany. Do you have any spokes/nipples you'd be willing to sell? Or do you only build wheels and such?

Thanks,
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hi brian,,,send me an address and the parts will be on their way,,,,there are enough previous posts on installing a few spokes,,,,

just be forewarned that dealing with x-laced rims is a major brain exercise,,,, put em all in gently and tighten evenly,,,til they sound like their neigbors...and make sure the rest are at least snug,,,

again,,,a wobbly wheel with tight spokes will at least get you further than one with loose and missing spokes,,,chill on the speeds you carry,,,,because the remaining 33 spokes have been doing the work of 40,,,,expect some of these to snap too !!!!!

good news is we can help ya down the road and rebuild it for far less money than anew one,,,besides it'll end up truer and stay true longer to boot

holler if we can be of assistance,,,

woody

OBTW,,,,don't forget the lil grub screws hiding way down in the nipples,,,they've snookered more than one wheelsmith,,,myself included
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Old 04-22-2008, 03:54 PM   #778
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Woody, you have a set of wheels for sale on you site for the KTM 125 to 525, black Excel rims with orange Talon hubs. Will this set up fit the 2008 530 XCRW's?
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Old 04-22-2008, 05:34 PM   #779
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Hi Woody,

How much to replace the front Behr Rim (hoop only, reusing my spokes and hub) with Excel (double label or A60, whatever you recommend) and what is your turn around time?

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Old 04-23-2008, 04:56 PM   #780
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G650 X-Challenge options

These are still the options on the X-Challenge. We can do the front billet RAD hubs without much difference, but the rear billet hubs are a ways out. The stock hubs are the only matching hubs available at this time.

The bearings are 52mm OD on the Rad's and 42mm OD on the G650's.

If you're intersted in getting a quote, please e-mail me at: woodyswheelworks@gmail.com or call us at the number below.

Thanks,
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From another Woody thread:

Woody, a couple questions:
1) Are these still the options for X-challenge wheels or have you made your superlite hubs for the X-Challenge?

2) Do the RAD KTM hubs use larger bearings than the stock X-Challenge hubs?

3) When I've decided on a desired configuration and want a quote, should I call you, send you a PM on here, or email you?

Thanks
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