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Old 11-27-2008, 09:07 PM   #991
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Fit of inner spacer between the wheel bearings...

Hi Woody:

On my Husky TE610, the inner spacer is just slightly longer than the space between the rear wheel bearings when both bearings are seated on the shoulder of the hubs. The result is that when I am replacing wheel bearings, they usually end up applying some preload to the spacer. Should I be reducing the length of the spacer slightly so that it fits with no preload?

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Old 11-27-2008, 09:17 PM   #992
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Is there any wheels that can be used on a KLR to run tubeless
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Old 11-28-2008, 04:46 AM   #993
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we compiled a list of tire sets for you,,,and forgot it at the shop,,,will pick it up manana

OBTW,,,how did you like the Road Attacks and the 19/17 set-up over the oem 21/18????
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Old 11-28-2008, 07:53 AM   #994
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11GS rusty spokes

Recently picked up an 11GS.. its got several rusty spokes... rust has eaten away top layer (i assume chrome???) on many spokes...

is there any way of saving these spokes and preventing it from becoming any worse ???

is it possible for a backyard mechanic to replace spokes on these wheels or is this a job for a spcialist ???

does the cost of repairing/replacing make more sense to just buy new or new/used ???

I know its near blasphemy to ask.. but are there any non-spoke wheels (maybe RT) that are a direct fit ???

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Old 11-28-2008, 09:22 AM   #995
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21/17 or 21/18

Hi Woody,
What can you tell me or advise me about putting a 21" wheel on the front of my "07 R1200 GSA I have heard the 21" wheel will improve handling in sand and gravel. Do you think it is worth it? Or would a 21"/18" combination be better.

I love the look of the wheels I've seen posted : ) So you should consider me a new customer trying to figure out what i should order. Thanks so much for all your help.
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Old 11-28-2008, 01:45 PM   #996
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whoa!!!! there IS a reason why inner bearing spacers are longer!!!

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Hi Woody:

On my Husky TE610, the inner spacer is just slightly longer than the space between the rear wheel bearings when both bearings are seated on the shoulder of the hubs. The result is that when I am replacing wheel bearings, they usually end up applying some preload to the spacer. Should I be reducing the length of the spacer slightly so that it fits with no preload?

Thanks.
folks,,,your inner spacer between the ball bearings on th emajority of bikes should be minimally circa .010"" for a steel spacer and .020'' if you have an aluminum spacer...longer than the edges in tha hub that the outer races of you bearings rest against!!!

this way you allow the crush on all the components that you are squeezing together when you tighten your axle NOT to put unwanted side loads on your bearings between the inner and outer races

the only bearings that operate ok with pre-tested sideloads are on tapered bearings,,,ala BMW using 9inch lbs of drag when tightened to a pre-scribed torque value circa 28 ft/lbs on front axles and 32 ft/lbs on their back axles.
Harley on the other hand had the loosest end play norms resulting in you always feeling like you were riding on a bunch of little marbles,,,circa .003-.018''end play,,,we always made a trick machine steel custom spacers and set the endplay to.001'' +/-.0005'',,eventually after many years and many talks to hog owners groups they came out with their 'new ' shim pack and identical bearing spacer material and a new norm of .003-.006''..

OBTW on all BMWs i set them up to .000'' endplay,,ie the axle turns freely with no endplay at the desired bmw torque spec...NEVER ever had a bearing set-up spin or fry and no adverse handling issuesremember spun/burned up bmw bearings are the bane of that marque if you do not have them
properly set-up and follow through with replicating the exact torque settings specified...

'nuff said on that

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ps,,,someday i'll regale you with the story of how i personally learned about endplay and preload,,on my first BMWR75/5,,,highlights include freezing the front bearings up while toodling along @85mph in the fast lane and needing a sledge hammer to knock out my front axle!!!!
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:05 PM   #997
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the benefits/negafits of going to 21'' front wheels on your GS series BMWs

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Hi Woody,
What can you tell me or advise me about putting a 21" wheel on the front of my "07 R1200 GSA I have heard the 21" wheel will improve handling in sand and gravel. Do you think it is worth it? Or would a 21"/18" combination be better.

I love the look of the wheels I've seen posted : ) So you should consider me a new customer trying to figure out what i should order. Thanks so much for all your help.
for general true dual sport riding especially in more challenging dirt terrain you WILL APPRECIATE and note the improvement at the expense of no longer being able to smoke through the twisties on the pavement

search for yellow pig's great assesment report somewhere in this thread several years ago...i wouldn't worry about swiching to an 18'' rear,,,i've got this combo on my own R1200GS as i write...it' handle great but raise the ass end an extra inch for my vertically challenged inseam,,,true i have a greater selection of knobbies available,,,but the 150-70x17 oem rear size allows me to go alittle slower throught he tricky stuff the larger 18'' knobbies raises the gear ratio a bit.... and with the 21'' front and oem rear size you essentially raise th front 3/4'' inceasing trail and making the bike feel more stable in the dirt and everywhere

i have a variety of ways to put a 21'' up front including the bmw x-laced tubeless oem style rims ala HP-2 or R100 GS/PD
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:28 PM   #998
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some tips for rusty X-laced BMW wheel spokes

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Recently picked up an 11GS.. its got several rusty spokes... rust has eaten away top layer (i assume chrome???) on many spokes...

is there any way of saving these spokes and preventing it from becoming any worse ???

so sorry,,get rid of em sooner rather than later!!!!

is it possible for a backyard mechanic to replace spokes on these wheels or is this a job for a spcialist ???

you can replace one or two that have snapped,,,i've posted several times already on the steps involved ....the old chrome spokes are fairly brittle and usually snap/crack right under the head,,,most folks would agree that x-laced wheel repair is a specialist's domain,,,and yours truly has mastered the mystery of that art

does the cost of repairing/replacing make more sense to just buy new or new/used ???

FYI,,,since BMW sez they are unrepairable,,,they'll want you to buy another one circa $1100 these days,,,used ones are fetching circa $500

i can rebuild yours with the upgraded ss spokes and nicer nipples,,,the PER WHEEL costs are:
1,,,ss spoke and new powdercoated nipple kits are$190

2,, labor $200+/-30...realistically though in your case...with rusted spokes etc it is an enormous job dismantelling and prepping the rim so count on the upper limit for sure...

HOWEVER...IF you dismantle the wheel and provide me a perfectly prepped rim ie NO crud/dirt in spoke holes at all,,,i only charge $150 for a X-lace lace and true...the best part about it is you'll get a wheel that will be truer than a new OEM unit and will hold the true longer than an OEM wheel

I know its near blasphemy to ask.. but are there any non-spoke wheels (maybe RT) that are a direct fit ???

no problem,,,yes there are some mag front wheels that interchange

am asking the right questions in the right place
so there ya have it...several day turn around for your wheel...and if ya want to make them purty/bling/etc,,,you're at the right spot too. nows the time to upgrade,,,whatever lights your imagination 'cept chroming em or asking me for the oem gold HP-2 and Adventure blue/purple ...later woody
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:34 PM   #999
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tubeless wheels on KLR

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Is there any wheels that can be used on a KLR to run tubeless
we have buildt tubeless wheels for this bike but only with rims that sport a safety bead,,,i also don't do the 21'' any more...this also means there won't be a rim-lock on the rear

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Old 11-28-2008, 03:16 PM   #1000
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for general true dual sport riding especially in more challenging dirt terrain you WILL APPRECIATE and note the improvement at the expense of no longer being able to smoke through the twisties on the pavement

search for yellow pig's great assesment report somewhere in this thread several years ago...i wouldn't worry about swiching to an 18'' rear,,,i've got this combo on my own R1200GS as i write...it' handle great but raise the ass end an extra inch for my vertically challenged inseam,,,true i have a greater selection of knobbies available,,,but the 150-70x17 oem rear size allows me to go alittle slower throught he tricky stuff the larger 18'' knobbies raises the gear ratio a bit.... and with the 21'' front and oem rear size you essentially raise th front 3/4'' inceasing trail and making the bike feel more stable in the dirt and everywhere

i have a variety of ways to put a 21'' up front including the bmw x-laced tubeless oem style rims ala HP-2 or R100 GS/PD
woody
OK then that's a very direct answer and I thank you for it. I saw on one these many pages a custom lightweight hub with your superlace system. Would it be possible and advisable to get a Trio of those wheels two fronts 21" &19" as well as the 17" rear wheel? And while you are at it could you put some rubber on them as well? I did warn you that I really wanted to be a customer.
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OK then that's a very direct answer and I thank you for it. I saw on one these many pages a custom lightweight hub with your superlace system. Would it be possible and advisable to get a Trio of those wheels two fronts 21" &19" as well as the 17" rear wheel? And while you are at it could you put some rubber on them as well? I did warn you that I really wanted to be a customer.
sort of joking,,,,what ya need to know is that i traverse a very broad spectrum of needs and wants from my customer base,,,,

you will hear it from me time and again...'tell me where you are and what you hope to achieve and i'll help you get there ,,,as reasonable and directly as possible,,,

my Superlite wheels actually cost about the same as an oem wheel 'cept are stronger and 4-5lbs lighter,,,and waaaaayyyy better looking,,,,in a variety of colors to boot

inuff said,,,call me toll free at the number below,,,it's easier on me..woody
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Old 11-29-2008, 06:29 AM   #1002
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Woody, any news on that tyre list yet ?
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Old 11-29-2008, 10:45 AM   #1003
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amnesia and multitaskin gwoes...

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Woody, any news on that tyre list yet ?
well i went to work yesterday ,,,found it ,,set it out ,,and walked right past it on the way out the door

getting old and multitasking DO NOT mix

am walking out the door,,,heading to shop to try again

wish me luck,,,or remind me in half an hour...

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alternative street tires for 950/990 KTM ADV with 19/17 setup

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Hi Woody and Chris.
I purchased a set of 19" 17" wheels off youb earlier in the year for my 990 Adv. I have Conti Road Attacks on them and i was wondering with the exception of the Conti's what other road rubber are your customers using on this wheel set. It will only be used on the road.

Regards Steve
Metzler Roadtech Z6 100% 110/80x19 150/70x17

'' Tourance 95% street x 5%dirt

michelin Pilot...100% same size

BridgestoneBT020...100% same sizes

Pirelli Scorpion Sync 95%x5% dirt same sizes

Continental Road Attack...100% same sizes

Dunlop D607...95%x5%...same sizes

,,,and here's what 'gedjack' thinks of ths conversion: ''Total transformation, love every minute of it, worth every penny''
...ok,,,woody

OBTW...these will work for any wheel we build for any bike with our 19/17 set-up
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Old 12-02-2008, 12:26 AM   #1005
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Thumb KTM 990 adv wheelset request

Hi Woody,
Ive own my KTM990ADV for 2 years, Im satisfy with its sound, engine output and light weight, but due to most the weather in Taiwan is wet (and Im lazy to wash and dry my bike every time after riding ), the stock spoke has already rusted , and since most of my journey are on flexuosity mountain blacktop road, it is not very good handling in both small low speed and large high speed cornering (compare with 1200GS), as I check from internet it seems Woodys wheel work is the most recommended solution to resolve my KTM990ADV wheelset problem .
Please give me an advise of type and size of wheelset and please also advise front and rear sprocket size, please PM me for quotation with shipping fee to Taiwan and how to pay for this order, Thanks a lot!!!
BTW, due to KTM dealer mention change size of wheel might impact to ABS warranty, I don't really care about that, but in your experience, anybody has met ABS problem after he/she change wheel size?

Thanks and best regards
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