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Old 04-07-2009, 07:10 AM   #1141
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Any GNCC or SCORE teams by chance?
sorry rabbit,,,i've built wheels for so many,,,,and honestly can't keep up for whom they race,,, i do know that several of my clients race in the SCORE events...

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Old 04-07-2009, 09:03 AM   #1142
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the complete set-up runs circa $2-2.5k + S&H,,,depending on hubs used ,,,clear or black anodized rims

will check shipping

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Hi woody , thanks for the reply. i can lay my hands on a brand new set of super enduro hubs 06 for a smaller amount than new, can these work with my 990S adventure and be fitted to the new rims. ?
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Old 04-07-2009, 09:55 AM   #1143
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swapping KTM 950 se and 950/990S hubs...???

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Hi woody , thanks for the reply. i can lay my hands on a brand new set of super enduro hubs 06 for a smaller amount than new, can these work with my 990S adventure and be fitted to the new rims. ?
well the rear would be no problem,,,,the front SE was a single disc hub and all the Adventures used a double disc set-up....you could use it as trade in perhaps...

Aren't you the fellow who wants the caponord tubeless X-laced set-up in England???...and i was talking about sending a kit your way to cut down on costs...???

FYI,,we just did a deal like that and the whole thing came back with a rim so so scratched up i wanted to cry,,so did the owner and his wheel builder who gave -up...these are very complicated wheels to build with the trick lacing and all,,,we barely break even charging $200 for lacing and truing,,

so caveat emptor..

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Old 04-08-2009, 01:17 AM   #1144
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Yes your right on the front hub, i did not think at the time about a single disc only . I would rather you build them up and send them over than someone have a go over here. I only met one guy who had them on his 640 adventure and he said the wheel builder would never do them again as they were a pain in the .

My hat comes off for you for building these type of wheels woody and yes they are alot of money with the exchange rate and all but i think they are well worth it for the looks and handling i would get plus the excellent build quality i would have from you.

You did say on the first reply, "depending on hubs you use". are the ktm hubs the best way to go for this build up.?
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Old 04-08-2009, 08:29 AM   #1145
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which hubs to use for the X-laced tubeless Caponord to KTM conversion

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Yes your right on the front hub, i did not think at the time about a single disc only . I would rather you build them up and send them over than someone have a go over here. I only met one guy who had them on his 640 adventure and he said the wheel builder would never do them again as they were a pain in the .

My hat comes off for you for building these type of wheels woody and yes they are alot of money with the exchange rate and all but i think they are well worth it for the looks and handling i would get plus the excellent build quality i would have from you.

You did say on the first reply, "depending on hubs you use". are the ktm hubs the best way to go for this build up.?
i specifically redesigned the oem rear hub in the areas that i felt needed more strength ,,,ie the amount of metal on the sprocket drive side spoke bosses. ...the oem hub is a casting and there isn't much meat where the spokes go thru..i have never seen an oem hub fail,,,,what you have to remember is that i am asking the oem hub to do something not part of the original gameplan,,ie angle the spokes considerably more sideways ie to get the far side of the rim instead of just the center,,,

soo the upshot of all this is that the RAD hub with it's stronger alloy and beefed up bosses gets my nod for your application,,,,

the front oem hub is fine as is..as well as the oem sprocket carrier..you can interchange the rear hubs and sprocket carriers. hope that enlightens you,,

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Old 04-15-2009, 04:42 AM   #1146
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I've got a buddy looking for spoke wheels for his 06 1200GS What years will fit that bike? Do you have any?
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:39 AM   #1147
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R100GS wheels question

Hi Woody -

I've got a 1990 R100GS with rusty spokes - nearly all are corroded, none have snapped yet. My rims are straight, stock Akront's, tubeless. I've got a couple questions about what can be done, how to get wheels to you, etc.

1. What are my rim options? Are there newer rims (like an excel rim) that can be laced to my hubs? If I want to stay tubeless, do I have to keep my akronts?

2. What lacing do you recommend? I see that you can do BMW cross lacing, but if you can do superlacing on a stock Akront, would that be a better way to go?

3. To ship a wheel to you, should I take off the tire and brake rotor?

4. And finally, pricing guidance would be great - what am I looking price wise for - A) a relace with the most baddass spokes you have on my akronts B) new rims (excel or whoever you think is good) and superlacing?

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Old 04-15-2009, 07:58 AM   #1148
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what wheels will fit a '06 RBMW1200GS???

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I've got a buddy looking for spoke wheels for his 06 1200GS What years will fit that bike? Do you have any?
FYI...ALL R1200GS and GSA wheels will interchange from '05 til now

we have a variety of R1200 GS wheels in all kinds of configurations from mags to X-laced and everything in between...

have him call toll free

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Old 04-15-2009, 08:25 AM   #1149
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R100GS restoration and upgrade questions and answers...

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Hi Woody -

I've got a 1990 R100GS with rusty spokes - nearly all are corroded, none have snapped yet. My rims are straight, stock Akront's, tubeless. I've got a couple questions about what can be done, how to get wheels to you, etc.

1. What are my rim options? Are there newer rims (like an excel rim) that can be laced to my hubs? If I want to stay tubeless, do I have to keep my akronts?

2. What lacing do you recommend? I see that you can do BMW cross lacing, but if you can do superlacing on a stock Akront, would that be a better way to go?

3. To ship a wheel to you, should I take off the tire and brake rotor?

4. And finally, pricing guidance would be great - what am I looking price wise for - A) a relace with the most baddass spokes you have on my akronts B) new rims (excel or whoever you think is good) and superlacing?

Thanks!
Pal,,,you're asking me what you can do with your wheels....well damn near anything you can think of besides chroming,,,we don't do chrome because of it's propensity to corrode/blister/peel within years of spending all that money...unless it's for an ALL show and NO go application....

now that that's clear....

typical recondition /upgrade includes...dismantling the wheel $30-100[often the hardest part],,,,,polishing rim $50-100,,,beadblasting and sealing your hubs $35-75,,,,upgraded ss spokes /nipples/grub screws $190,,,relace n true $150,,bearing R&R $20 +parts [if necessary] per wheel...there's a fudge factor involved in how many of the above operations you want or need

alternative upgrades are going with trick rims $150-250 [size/color]and superlaced $99 with my Monzter spoke kits $180 plus add whatever other services to this from above

S&H,,well we can handle anything you send us,,,just make sure it's packed appropriately to protect what you are sending...BWOE,,,i just received the worst packed items and OVERPACKAGED CRATE within days of each other..imagine 2 complete wheels with tires mounted and disc brakes flopping loosely in a 3'x3' cardbooard box with a 12''x12'' piece of bubble wrap between them..they made it..so did the wooden crate that had more internal support x-bracing with every square inch jam packed with wadded newspapers,,,it took my girl half an hour to dismantle the 4 dozen 3'' deck screws.....what i'm trying to convey...there is a happy medium,,,aim for that please

i'm gonna ride my bike to work now...later

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Old 04-19-2009, 05:20 AM   #1150
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As posted Woody...

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Hey Woody... Will you be doing an 18" wheel plus Billet hubs for the new 800GS? BTW the hubs on the Adventure look trick... They tend to attract dirt though!!!
hi steve,,

i have transformed half dozen F800gs to better front 21's,,,,rear 18'' ,,supermoto front and rear...different colors,,,,whatever

have a set in right now that i'm measuring up...BMW is not selling seperate parts for this bike you have to buy complete wheel assemblies

so i'm seeing what we can x-pollinate

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Old 04-23-2009, 01:36 AM   #1151
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G'day from downunder , just a question on DNA hub and rims

are they a good product , i see they manufacture the hubs in the US , Rims i suspect are made in china ,
pair of wheels with stainless spokes $929 AUD
We get reamed on prices over here , and how the AUD is to the green back i can't afford a set of your wheels .

Any insite on this brand ?
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:23 AM   #1152
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Hello Woody,

(partly cross-posted from http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155827)

I've been reading up on KTM spoked wheels and the horror stories associated with them. In anticipation of spoke failure, I've been planning to zip-tie the spokes together and keep a close eye on them. I've also been considering carrying some spare spokes with me on longer trips.

I would like to inquire about the spoke dimensions for my 2003 KTM 640 LC4 Adventure.

According to my parts fiche, the rear wheel has two different types of spokes:

546.10.471.000 SPEICHE M5X223-10G 18 SPOKE M5X223-10G 18
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503.10.071.197 SPEICHE M5X197-10G 18 DDE SPOKE M5X197-10G 18 DDE

The spoke nipples are:

583.09.072.000 SPEICHENNIPPEL M5-TA (8X21MM) SPOKE NIPPLE M5-TA (8X21MM)

For the front:

503.09.071.230 SPEICHE M4,5X230-15G 21 DDE SPOKE M4,5X230-15G 21 DDE

And the nipples:

503.09.072.000 SPEICHENNIPPEL M4,5X0,75 8X21 SPOKE NIPPLE M4,5X0,75 8X21

The reason I am asking is because the cost for these parts is stupidly expensive from my local dealer. There is a local custom wheel manufacturer who could make me some spokes for much less, but he would need some more information about the spokes before making them. I don't trust my ability to measure the assembled spokes and I really don't wish to disassemble the wheel and send some some spokes as samples.

I've figured out so far that the part descriptions highlighted in orange have probably something to do with the diameter and the (total) length of the spoke. At least two additional dimensions, mainly the angle of the bend and the length of the bent section are required. My gut feeling says that the part highlighted in red could be something to do with that angle (as G could be short for Grad - angle in German...).

Your help on this matter is greatly appreciated, and if shipping over the pond was not such a large hassle, you would surely be receiving my rims for superlacing.

Thanks in advance,

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Old 04-23-2009, 01:07 PM   #1153
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Hi Woody, sorry to bother you with a topic that I am sure has been beaten to death but I am unclear on a few things that perhaps you could clear up. I bought a second hand 950 adv (2004) that had a few small dents in the rim. Well I put a big one in it (still ride able but bouncing now in the front).
The local KTM shop in town is asking a lot of money for a stock one and I am more inclined to move to a different brand (excel, etc). I see folks are going to a narrower rim (1.85, etc), this would be fine for me but ...I cannot seem to figure if the odd spoked hub this bike has will work with an excel rim and if so would you happen to know which rim?

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Old 04-23-2009, 07:45 PM   #1154
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the hot set-up fro your KTM 950 using it 50-50 is this

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Hi Woody, sorry to bother you with a topic that I am sure has been beaten to death but I am unclear on a few things that perhaps you could clear up. I bought a second hand 950 adv (2004) that had a few small dents in the rim. Well I put a big one in it (still ride able but bouncing now in the front).
The local KTM shop in town is asking a lot of money for a stock one and I am more inclined to move to a different brand (excel, etc). I see folks are going to a narrower rim (1.85, etc), this would be fine for me but ...I cannot seem to figure if the odd spoked hub this bike has will work with an excel rim and if so would you happen to know which rim?

Thanks in advance
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hi ted et al....

a great 50/50 combination would be 1.85x21 front rim and 3.50 x18 rear..rims are narrower and better protected...

all aftermarket rims are generically jap indexed as opposed to KTM's euro indexing on the adventure series... a simple way of being different and forcing you to buy KTM...

so we custom drill the 1.85 for either stock x2 patterns or our x3 superlace patterns...

FYI..if we can get a jap patterned X2,,we we would have to reangle one side to x3 and use the opposing side x2,,OBTW the x-3 side would need the holes redrilled and anled/countersunk for the nipple heads

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Old 04-24-2009, 12:24 PM   #1155
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Hey Woody,

Have you converted F800GS wheels to run without tubes? Is it a sure thing or carry a spare tube just in case there's a leak?
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