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Old 08-23-2010, 01:44 PM   #16471
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Serious question.

My dad is 58, slim at 180lbs and 5'11". He's an avid cyclist and, up until recently, has had no problems with riding a road bike on long distance rides(ie; 80+ miles).

Over the last month, he's changed his diet to a vegetarian one and he has begun having trouble with stamina towards the end of his longer rides, (ie:60+ miles). He's wondering if a specific diet the day before and/or right before the ride is the answer? He's never had to do that before, other than the regular high carb and hydration stuff.... power gels and whatnot while riding, too.

He feels that he may not be getting enough protein, and is trying to make up for that but wanted to post the question here to see if there are any other 'vegetarians' or similar eaters that have experienced this and what they have done about it. He has an appointment with his doctor for a physical, but that's not for a while and in the meantime, he still wants to ride.

Any suggestions?
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Old 08-23-2010, 01:49 PM   #16472
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My dad is 58, slim at 180lbs and 5'11". He's an avid cyclist and, up until recently, has had no problems with riding a road bike on long distance rides(ie; 80+ miles).

Over the last month, he's changed his diet to a vegetarian one and he has begun having trouble with stamina towards the end of his longer rides, ie:60+ miles). He's wondering if a specific diet the day before and/or right before the ride is the answer? He's never had to do that before, other than the regular high carb and hydration stuff.... power gels and whatnot while riding, too.

He feels that he may not be getting enough protein, and is trying to make up for that but wanted to post the question here to see if there are any other 'vegetarians' or similar eaters that have experienced this and what they have done about it. He has an appointment with his doctor for a physical, but that's not for a while and in the meantime, he still wants to ride.

Any suggestions?
indeed, sounds to me like insufficient proteins, and its hard to find a proper source of complete protein in a vegetarian diet, most vegetable proteins are low density and/or incomplete. things like soy and whey based protein powders tend to be shy on a number of amino acids. Also, iron is important, needed to maintain red blood cells, and those are what carry oxygen to your muscles.
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Old 08-23-2010, 02:35 PM   #16473
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My dad is 58, slim at 180lbs and 5'11". He's an avid cyclist and, up until recently, has had no problems with riding a road bike on long distance rides(ie; 80+ miles).

Over the last month, he's changed his diet to a vegetarian one and he has begun having trouble with stamina towards the end of his longer rides, ie:60+ miles). He's wondering if a specific diet the day before and/or right before the ride is the answer? He's never had to do that before, other than the regular high carb and hydration stuff.... power gels and whatnot while riding, too.

He feels that he may not be getting enough protein, and is trying to make up for that but wanted to post the question here to see if there are any other 'vegetarians' or similar eaters that have experienced this and what they have done about it. He has an appointment with his doctor for a physical, but that's not for a while and in the meantime, he still wants to ride.

Any suggestions?
I don't have the answer but I do have a question.

Why would he change a diet that seems to have worked very well for him for 58 years?
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:04 PM   #16474
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I don't have the answer but I do have a question.

Why would he change a diet that seems to have worked very well for him for 58 years?
It wasn't his 'diet' that worked for 58 yrs.... it was what he was eating worked for his bicycling needs. However, he doesn't wish to eat that way anymore, but still wants to continue cycling.

I read something on the 'net that showed how to calculate how much protein an individual needed by dividing his weight by 2.2 and then multiplying 0.8 - 1.8 (depending how active you are) and whatever number came up was what you were supposed to have in protein. I'm not sure this is correct as I seem to read more varying explanations on the same subject.

Anyone know of a reputable site that they KNOW has the correct info to go by?
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Old 08-23-2010, 03:05 PM   #16475
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11 miles and it's 108* outside.


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Old 08-23-2010, 03:12 PM   #16476
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11 miles and it's 108* outside.


Never again.
I did that, too.


Once.


I feel your pain.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:07 PM   #16477
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Edamame

My wife loves them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edamame

We eat meat too, but this seems to be a pretty good amount of protein for a veggie. Probably need more than one thing to get the right balance, but I hope this helps.

I did 10 miles today.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:13 PM   #16478
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my vegetarian fanatic teenage boy who's fairly athletic eats a lot of Quinoa, which he boils (something like rice or barley), then sautes with olive oil, herbs, garlic, a little chili pepper and manages to make something fairly tasty. apparently this stuff is much higher in protein than most other grains and is also quite well balanced in all the essential amino acids.

it powers his backpacking marathons.
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:39 PM   #16479
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my vegetarian fanatic teenage boy who's fairly athletic eats a lot of Quinoa, which he boils (something like rice or barley), then sautes with olive oil, herbs, garlic, a little chili pepper and manages to make something fairly tasty. apparently this stuff is much higher in protein than most other grains and is also quite well balanced in all the essential amino acids.

it powers his backpacking marathons.
Does he eat this the day before or the day of?
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:47 PM   #16480
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Does he eat this the day before or the day of?
he lives on it :)

he takes a pound or three of it backpacking, and cooks it on the trails. I bet I left out that he spikes it up with grated cheese on top.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:32 PM   #16481
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Anyone know of a reputable site that they KNOW has the correct info to go by?
Fitday's food log is a good tool to figure out how much carbohydrate, fat, and protein you are getting in a day.

As for a source to tell your dad how to get all the protein he needs, I don't know. I know I had a hard time eating enough last year to get the protein I needed and ultimately I didn't get enough, so I am interested in this as well.

Frankly, I just went back to lean meats and fish.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:44 PM   #16482
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he lives on it :)

he takes a pound or three of it backpacking, and cooks it on the trails. I bet I left out that he spikes it up with grated cheese on top.
Thanks!
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Old 08-23-2010, 06:09 PM   #16483
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Fitday's food log is a good tool to figure out how much carbohydrate, fat, and protein you are getting in a day.

As for a source to tell your dad how to get all the protein he needs, I don't know. I know I had a hard time eating enough last year to get the protein I needed and ultimately I didn't get enough, so I am interested in this as well.

Frankly, I just went back to lean meats and fish.
Thanks to you, too! Sorry you went back to meat/fish - when my dad gets it figured out, I'll make sure to post up.
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Old 08-23-2010, 06:18 PM   #16484
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There are all kinds of protein supplements he can take. Trust me I have tried many over the past year. From shakes like Isopure or unjury to candy bar and cookie like supplements that have boatloads of protein. Most are whey based so he may not want to take them since they are made from milk. But they are not meat.

Most vitamin stores can help and will have a great selection.

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Old 08-23-2010, 06:29 PM   #16485
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There are all kinds of protein supplements he can take. Trust me I have tried many over the past year. From shakes like Isopure or unjury to candy bar and cookie like supplements that have boatloads of protein. Most are whey based so he may not want to take them since they are made from milk. But they are not meat.

Most vitamin stores can help and will have a great selection.

Steve
I'll pass that along - thanks, Stevers!
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