ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Fluff > Sports
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 518 votes, 4.94 average. Display Modes
Old 08-31-2010, 11:41 AM   #16561
Bimble
In giro in moto
 
Bimble's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Location: Apple Valley, MN
Oddometer: 8,350
Quote:
Originally Posted by Askel
That custom epic/carousel stuff is neat, but you don't need to spend near that much. Here's a thread over on bikepacking.net on doing it on the cheap: http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/ind...c,982.msg12962

Details on my setup are there...
Are you still looking for a tent? I'm veeeery tempted by this one: http://www.rei.com/product/798685
__________________
Siamo tra qui e lė.
Bimble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 11:53 AM   #16562
Askel
Perma-n00b
 
Askel's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Location: Da UP, eh.
Oddometer: 10,481
I'm still kind of undecided- lots of great one man tents like that for under $100, but that particular model is not freestanding.

A freestanding design usually adds about a pound and more difficult-to-pack poles.

I like the advantages of a freestanding design, but I'm not sure how bad I *need* it.

Doesn't matter though. One more summer bikepacking trip left for this season and I'm sticking with what I got.
Askel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 02:19 PM   #16563
pierce
Aven'Tourer
 
pierce's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Location: S'Cruz
Oddometer: 10,116
re: small light tents for 1, i've been quite happy with my Kelty Teton 2. you only need to stake out the vestibule of the fly, the tent otherwise supports itself entirely. I've used a rock to anchor the vestibule's tie line when the ground hasn't held stakes. packs really small, and its quite light. came with a stuffsack big enough that when I cut a custom footprint for it from PVC, it fit in the stuffsack too, so I can roll it all up together. has aluminum poles that use clips rather than annoying sleeves.



stays quite dry in heavy extended downpours, too.

re: panniers, I'm curious why you said they don't work. I used them extensively in the 70s/80s when I bikepacked, balancing weight on front and rear racks, they kept the weight low on the frame. yeah, those little one wheel aluminum trailers look neat, too.
__________________
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.
pierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 03:04 PM   #16564
Mr Head
PowerPoint ADV
 
Mr Head's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Location: Orange County, CA
Oddometer: 7,838
I have a Hammerhead 2, but it is pretty big. It works for motorcycle camping but seems heavy for backpacking though if I were going with my wife we'd just split up the load. I don't think I'd bother with it on a bicycle though. That off in the back of beyond photo sure is appealing though. Maybe a bivy sack, with a rainfly just in case.
My preference has always been for a 3-season tent for waterproofness and keeping the wind out.
__________________
...Dick
"You don't go to Mongolia for the food." - Sebastian & Kim
2010 KTM 990 Adventure R
My Life With The 990R
Smugmug
Mr Head is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 05:30 PM   #16565
Askel
Perma-n00b
 
Askel's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Location: Da UP, eh.
Oddometer: 10,481
Quote:
Originally Posted by pierce
re: panniers, I'm curious why you said they don't work. I used them extensively in the 70s/80s when I bikepacked, balancing weight on front and rear racks, they kept the weight low on the frame. yeah, those little one wheel aluminum trailers look neat, too.

I used them in "Version 1.0" of my bikepacking setup.



They flop around too much.

They stick out too much.

They encourage me to take way too much shit.

Sure, I probably could find a pannier setup that addresses all these shortcomings, but a $5 stuff sack cinched down to the rack does the same for very little money.

I still use panniers extensively for "regular" touring though.

Askel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 05:34 PM   #16566
Askel
Perma-n00b
 
Askel's Avatar
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Location: Da UP, eh.
Oddometer: 10,481
Quote:
Originally Posted by k7
Thanks! I check that thread and consider your advice. Much appreciated.
Looking back though, I noticed this was for a Fargo. Unless you do anything really wacky, I don't think you'll have a problem selling off custom bags for that frame if you decide they don't work.

Probably not a huge market for custom framebags for a Kona Hoss though.
Askel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 05:54 PM   #16567
k7
Ancien cyclist
 
k7's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Location: SOP - south of Phoenix, hotter n hell
Oddometer: 19,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Askel
That custom epic/carousel stuff is neat, but you don't need to spend near that much. Here's a thread over on bikepacking.net on doing it on the cheap: http://www.bikepacking.net/forum/ind...c,982.msg12962

Details on my setup are there.

You'll find you constantly want to adjust and tune what you carry, how much of it, and where on the bike you carry it.

I wouldn't spend any big bucks on a custom bag until you know what you want.

I know I probably won't ever buy a seatpost bag or any custom frame bag based on my experiences.

While panniers and bikepacking don't usually work out all that well, racks make for awesome places to strap stuff and don't interfere with pedaling.
Thanks! I check that thread and consider your advice. Much appreciated.

Edit: posted a reply in your thread.
k7 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 05:55 PM   #16568
k7
Ancien cyclist
 
k7's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Location: SOP - south of Phoenix, hotter n hell
Oddometer: 19,862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Askel
Looking back though, I noticed this was for a Fargo. Unless you do anything really wacky, I don't think you'll have a problem selling off custom bags for that frame if you decide they don't work.

Probably not a huge market for custom framebags for a Kona Hoss though.
True. I'll probably go with a framebag and a handlebar bag that wraps around a dry bag. Combine that with the rack and topcase that I already have. Cheap/cheap.
k7 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 06:21 PM   #16569
pierce
Aven'Tourer
 
pierce's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Location: S'Cruz
Oddometer: 10,116
i still have an eclipse pannier. has the aluminum rod that fits in the channel on the eclipse rack system from circa 1980, not made in a long time. I also have an eclipse 'basket' (folding frame with nylon mesh). don;t have the other panneir or basket of the original sets

I'm thinking of installing Jandd hooks on them, and rigging a bungi for the bottom.


$7 worth of hardware per pack. plus $7 shipping,
__________________
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.
pierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 07:21 PM   #16570
JohnBryer
Adventure Poser
 
JohnBryer's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Midway, UT
Oddometer: 934
I did the Little Cottonwood Canyon hill climb this weekend. 10 miles, 8-10% grade the whole way. I think it's time for a better set of wheels for climbing.

Any suggestions for a great set of climbing wheels?
__________________
2005 R1200 GS
2004 R1150 RT
JohnBryer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 07:36 PM   #16571
pierce
Aven'Tourer
 
pierce's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Location: S'Cruz
Oddometer: 10,116
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnBryer
I did the Little Cottonwood Canyon hill climb this weekend. 10 miles, 8-10% grade the whole way. I think it's time for a better set of wheels for climbing.

Any suggestions for a great set of climbing wheels?
it ain't the wheels, its the legs and lungs :)
__________________
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.
pierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 07:54 PM   #16572
ducnut
Beastly Adventurer
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: central IL
Oddometer: 3,321
Quote:
Originally Posted by pierce
it ain't the wheels, its the legs and lungs :)
^^^ +1

And, your weight, the bike's weight, reality, etc.
__________________
'09 Triumph Tiger1050
'96 Ducati 900SS
'02 Suzuki SV650S (hers)
ducnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 07:57 PM   #16573
JohnBryer
Adventure Poser
 
JohnBryer's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Location: Midway, UT
Oddometer: 934
Lot of smart asses here. How about if you don't have any advice you just

I don't ride a KLR. I'd like to help stimulate the economy a bit.
__________________
2005 R1200 GS
2004 R1150 RT
JohnBryer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 08:00 PM   #16574
pierce
Aven'Tourer
 
pierce's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Location: S'Cruz
Oddometer: 10,116
can't forget the gears. lower gear takes longer but you can save your strength.

right now, I'm running a 34:28 lowest gear w/ 170mm cranks and a 700x38 wheel. I need it to get my out of shape 220 lbs up the 1 mile hill I live on. I'm way out of shape for any more climbing than that after a 15-25 mile run around the flats below me.

my old road bike has a 42:24 low. I'll get there again.... some day.
__________________
Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.
pierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2010, 08:01 PM   #16575
Gummee!
That's MR. Toothless
 
Gummee!'s Avatar
 
Joined: May 2004
Location: NoVA for now...
Oddometer: 28,833
Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnBryer
Lot of smart asses here. How about if you don't have any advice you just

I don't ride a KLR. I'd like to help stimulate the economy a bit.
Ahhh the smell of an iminent head explosion. Smells like....

Ahh hell. This isn't JM anymore.

If you want my personal recomendation for pre-builts: Mavic Heliums (tubular)

Otherwise a GL330 in the back and a GEL280 in the front laced to D/A hubs is hard to beat.

Course, what goes up must come down, so why not some Zipp 404s?

M
__________________
I'm a cyclist that rides motos, not a moto rider that rides bicycles.
Gummee! is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 08:02 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2015