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Old 10-02-2010, 07:56 PM   #17296
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You need the special pin. Look for a black pin in the chain now. Break opposite that.

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I found the pin. It was the only one that had a solid look to it. All of the other pins have slots on top. As I understand it, you break the slotted pins and replace with the special pins till you run out of slotted pins?
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Old 10-02-2010, 08:11 PM   #17297
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I found the pin. It was the only one that had a solid look to it. All of the other pins have slots on top. As I understand it, you break the slotted pins and replace with the special pins till you run out of slotted pins?
Pretty much. Go diametrically opposite the last pin you put in. ie: 12 and 6 o'clock then 3 and 9 o'clock, etc.

Out of curiosity, why are you planning on pulling yer chain apart? (or did I miss that too?)

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Old 10-02-2010, 08:12 PM   #17298
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Any touring is a one day at time, sometimes one hour at a time. Just put one pedal in front of the other mental state. address problems as they happen. Almost any body can do it with enough time and desire. Bike the World.
Tell me about your touring experiences.
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Old 10-02-2010, 08:35 PM   #17299
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I say hey, or hello. If they just grunt at you, ya probably don't want to ride with them any way.
Had my right one replaced 5-6 yrs ago. I was back at work (fitness trainer ) in 4 weeks. Back riding a 1150GS in 8. Really work you hamstrings and your VMO. Those are you main knee stablizers.

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Old 10-02-2010, 08:56 PM   #17300
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Pretty much. Go diametrically opposite the last pin you put in. ie: 12 and 6 o'clock then 3 and 9 o'clock, etc.

Out of curiosity, why are you planning on pulling yer chain apart? (or did I miss that too?)

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There is the idea of going SS at a later date.
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Old 10-02-2010, 08:57 PM   #17301
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There the idea of going SS at a later date.
Aaah gotcha.

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Old 10-02-2010, 08:59 PM   #17302
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Aaah gotcha.

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I suggested he could SS his existing gears to try it out, usually something in the middle like 34:16 will have close enough slack, before buying a SS crank and wheelset (or converting his existing wheel to SS)


edit: with a shimano chain that requires new pins each time you break it, this is not so convenient....
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Old 10-03-2010, 12:53 AM   #17303
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Tell me about your touring experiences.
I did some when I was 17 -18 around Coloardo, mostly 4-5 day trips in the mountains. I went in the military. I was stationed in Germany for 5 yrs. I did a bunch of trips around Garmich, little bit in Austria,and Switerland. The good thing about Europe is you hop on a train with bike (no boxing it up like here) just put it in the bagage car . The Bike is ready at your destination.

My big goal is in about 5 years do a Trip on the transam dipping down to the southern tier, then up the Pacific coast and return on part of the Northern tier dipping down to the great rivers route and then working my way back to NC. Until then 2-3 week trips in this area will have to do.
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Old 10-03-2010, 09:29 AM   #17304
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I did some when I was 17 -18 around Coloardo, mostly 4-5 day trips in the mountains. I went in the military. I was stationed in Germany for 5 yrs. I did a bunch of trips around Garmich, little bit in Austria,and Switerland. The good thing about Europe is you hop on a train with bike (no boxing it up like here) just put it in the bagage car . The Bike is ready at your destination.

My big goal is in about 5 years do a Trip on the transam dipping down to the southern tier, then up the Pacific coast and return on part of the Northern tier dipping down to the great rivers route and then working my way back to NC. Until then 2-3 week trips in this area will have to do.
When I cycled from Glacier to Yellowstone, there were times on the second continental divide crossing where I had to pedal as hard as possible in my granny gear just to move forward uphill due to the winds.

Later on, in the foothills, the wind was so bad that I wanted to throw my bike off the road and give up. But I didn't because I knew that there was relative comfort waiting within 50 miles down the road in the form of a good, warm meal, a comfortable camping area with showers, etc. I wasn't even 25 then and in excellent shape.

The thing about the trip in the link is the length, the temps and the sheer remoteness of the trip as it crosses northern Brazil. Spend some time on his site and you'll understand the difficulty. It's not like in the US where you'll find a gas station, a hotel or a restaurant every 30 miles of paved road - it's a matter of finding something edible to eat, water to drink and someway to cool down.

It's more than putting one pedal in front of the other and if I get to attempt it, I'll be "old". Not nearly as in shape as I was when I toured and rode all of the US but more savvy and mentally tougher.

I've probably traveled more in Brazil than the average Brazilian, speak a little Portuguese...and I expect to retire there. Given that and my age, it'll be a tough trip.

I think I'll send him a note and ask about his health after the fact. Parasites can be horrible but the treatments can be even worse.
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Old 10-03-2010, 11:04 AM   #17305
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I suggested he could SS his existing gears to try it out, usually something in the middle like 34:16 will have close enough slack, before buying a SS crank and wheelset (or converting his existing wheel to SS)


edit: with a shimano chain that requires new pins each time you break it, this is not so convenient....
Speaking of which. From what I've read, it would be easier to use the existing wheel and use spacers then to go with a BMX style hub on a new wheels? I'm not sure what other advantage there is other then that though. Oh and will I have to change my front gear as well? I'm using the Biospace which are oval.
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Old 10-03-2010, 11:42 AM   #17306
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Speaking of which. From what I've read, it would be easier to use the existing wheel and use spacers then to go with a BMX style hub on a new wheels? I'm not sure what other advantage there is other then that though. Oh and will I have to change my front gear as well? I'm using the Biospace which are oval.
well, you'd be replacing your triple ring front with a single ring anyways if this was a permanent SS conversion. good single speed setups use chain-wheels with symmetrical longer teeth than the ones used for a derailleur double or triple. If your crank has 5 bolts for the chainring, there's a good chance you can simple bolt up a new chain ring to your existing crank. if its a 4 bolt, there's not as many choices in rings.

apparently you -can- use biospace chain wheels with SS gearing as the same number of teeth engage the chain all the way around.
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Old 10-03-2010, 12:55 PM   #17307
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well, you'd be replacing your triple ring front with a single ring anyways if this was a permanent SS conversion. good single speed setups use chain-wheels with symmetrical longer teeth than the ones used for a derailleur double or triple. If your crank has 5 bolts for the chainring, there's a good chance you can simple bolt up a new chain ring to your existing crank. if its a 4 bolt, there's not as many choices in rings.

apparently you -can- use biospace chain wheels with SS gearing as the same number of teeth engage the chain all the way around.
For the rear, I'd be swapping out the cassette for a SS gear and shims, I think. As I was reading the cassette gears are cut to allow for easier shifting. Like you said shorter teeth as well as a slightly different shape.

The Crank is a standard 5-bolt. Not sure if I'd want to keep the Bio-space stuff really. If it's cheap to buy a new gear then I'll probably end up doing that.

I've been looking at wheels. Should I consider discs or go with V's? I've read that the heaviest V's are still lighter then any disc. Also, what are some good wheels that are under $200 a set? (Closeouts are OK) I've seen some custom ones but the numbering scheme has be lost a bit on the rims. It looks like if I want the most flexibility I'd need to get V rims with caliper spindles. Any thoughts?
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Old 10-03-2010, 01:11 PM   #17308
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I'm still curious how you plan on riding the steep oakland hills with 1 gear.

go ahead and put your bike in one single gear, say 34:16, and try a few loops without shifting....
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Old 10-03-2010, 02:30 PM   #17309
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I'm still curious how you plan on riding the steep oakland hills with 1 gear.

go ahead and put your bike in one single gear, say 34:16, and try a few loops without shifting....
There are a lot of 'Jeep' trails inland. Brionies, Las Trampas, Little Hills, etc... I'll have to see how it goes with gears then try using one gear then maybe go to SS.
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Old 10-03-2010, 02:34 PM   #17310
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There are a lot of 'Jeep' trails inland. Brionies, Las Trampas, Little Hills, etc... I'll have to see how it goes with gears then try using one gear then maybe go to SS.
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