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Old 12-09-2010, 03:46 PM   #18256
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Old 12-09-2010, 07:35 PM   #18257
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Why do people use the rollers instead of exercise bicycles? I was pricing both today.
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:06 PM   #18258
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Why do people use the rollers instead of exercise bicycles? I was pricing both today.
Because it's more akin to riding on the road and teaches you good road skills. Don't believe me ? Try a set of rollers, just make sure you have somewhere to fall

It really teaches you to be super smooth - if you aren't, you're toast.
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Old 12-09-2010, 08:08 PM   #18259
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Why do people use the rollers instead of exercise bicycles? I was pricing both today.
Rollers help a lot w/ technique. Trainers help more w/ strength but allow You to develop bad habits.

Good to have both if you can.

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Old 12-09-2010, 08:13 PM   #18260
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Because it's more akin to riding on the road and teaches you good road skills. Don't believe me ? Try a set of rollers, just make sure you have somewhere to fall

It really teaches you to be super smooth - if you aren't, you're toast.
I learned - years ago - by setting mine up in the hallway, fairly close to the wall but quite aways from the end of the hall. To me, it's like walking a ledge. Don't look down. Now they have parabolic rollers which I assume makes it a bit easier but not 100% without risk.
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Old 12-10-2010, 06:53 AM   #18261
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Exactly.

Trainers make it easy to slip into the plodding, big gear style, real rough spin letting the stand balance you.

Rollers make you ride the bike in a very narrow place to stay on, and not wobble. Your spin smooths out or you wobble. Pretty soon you can pull off that extra layer that seemed required when you went to the basement to train with out stopping. Reaching for a water bottle doesn't cause the bike to move. You can watch TV, and look around.

Trainers are better for the strength thing, but I always used indoor cycles for spinning. I'd ride the trainer no load because my knee has always been so bad.

My old cheap rollers were good for both. To a point.

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Rollers help a lot w/ technique. Trainers help more w/ strength but allow You to develop bad habits.

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Old 12-10-2010, 07:31 AM   #18262
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29er MTB, but I am partial and just want to justify my purchase.

Greatest flexibility with regard to tires and where and what you can ride.

Love ya bro, glad you are still here. Ya big dummyhead.
Thanks, Steve. You're one of my favorite guys of all time, you know that.


Sooo, the more I think about this, the more I think that, in fairly short order, I'm gonna wanna go ride the forest service roads that I used to ride on the 950/990. I don't really expect to have any real desire to do singletrack stuff - no more than I wanted to on the mc, and I really don't wanna deal with any more traffic than is absolutely necessary. Given that - graded, clear, dirt/gravel roads, am I right to think a 29" hardtail MTB would be a good choice?

If so, the biggest frames I'm seein' are 23". Is that gonna work for me (6'4" w/ 33" inseam)?

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Old 12-10-2010, 07:40 AM   #18263
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Thanks, Steve. You're one of my favorite guys of all time, you know that.


Sooo, the more I think about this, the more I think that, in fairly short order, I'm gonna wanna go ride the forest service roads that I used to ride on the 950/990. I don't really expect to have any real desire to do singletrack stuff - no more than I wanted to on the mc, and I really don't wanna deal with any more traffic than is absolutely necessary. Given that - graded, clear dirt/gravel roads, am I right to think a 29" hardtail MTB would be a good choice?

If so, the biggest frames I'm seein' are 23". Is that gonna work for me (6'4" w/ 33" inseam)?
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Old 12-10-2010, 07:47 AM   #18264
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Old 12-10-2010, 08:03 AM   #18265
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Sooo, the more I think about this, the more I think that, in fairly short order, I'm gonna wanna go ride the forest service roads that I used to ride on the 950/990. I don't really expect to have any real desire to do singletrack stuff - no more than I wanted to on the mc, and I really don't wanna deal with any more traffic than is absolutely necessary. Given that - graded, clear, dirt/gravel roads, am I right to think a 29" hardtail MTB would be a good choice?
I have, both, a full-suspension 29er and a cyclocross bike. If I were riding what you describe, and I do all the time, I'd go with a 'cross bike with 40-42mm tires or something like a Salsa Fargo/Vaya. But, one of your desires was a flat bar. What I listed earlier are still good options. Don't be swayed by the description "city bike", as they are built pretty rugged. BMC has a couple options, too.

I never look at my MTB, unless it's going to be singletrack. My 'cross bike is a much better dirt road bike. But, if you decide to go with an MTB, make sure to get something with an air adjustable fork and preferrably one with compression and rebound adjustments and lockout.



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If so, the biggest frames I'm seein' are 23". Is that gonna work for me (6'4" w/ 33" inseam)?
Yep, that'll be plenty of frame.
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Old 12-10-2010, 10:44 AM   #18266
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Thanks, Steve. You're one of my favorite guys of all time, you know that.


Sooo, the more I think about this, the more I think that, in fairly short order, I'm gonna wanna go ride the forest service roads that I used to ride on the 950/990. I don't really expect to have any real desire to do singletrack stuff - no more than I wanted to on the mc, and I really don't wanna deal with any more traffic than is absolutely necessary. Given that - graded, clear, dirt/gravel roads, am I right to think a 29" hardtail MTB would be a good choice?

If so, the biggest frames I'm seein' are 23". Is that gonna work for me (6'4" w/ 33" inseam)?
Yes - you're on the right track IMHO.

Everyone likes the bike that "they" purchased and of course, I'm no exception. Given that, take a look at the Fargo Salsa - several of us here have one and it's a good piece of kit esp for your needs. In addition, they are available is sizes to fit us big/tall&ugly guys.

Link to their website

Here's mine - close to its 'bikepacking' form:

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Old 12-10-2010, 10:55 AM   #18267
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I am in dsc_0250, dcs_0249, dsc_0248 & dsc_0247 and dsc_0168 through dsc_0177


and I know no snow mud sleet slush but that grass was like pedaling with velcro wheels. Got to ride through a horse barn as well. Lots of deep sugar sand. The race took place at a ranch that has steeplechase races , the horse kind.

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Old 12-10-2010, 05:34 PM   #18268
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Thanks, Steve. You're one of my favorite guys of all time, you know that.


Sooo, the more I think about this, the more I think that, in fairly short order, I'm gonna wanna go ride the forest service roads that I used to ride on the 950/990. I don't really expect to have any real desire to do singletrack stuff - no more than I wanted to on the mc, and I really don't wanna deal with any more traffic than is absolutely necessary. Given that - graded, clear, dirt/gravel roads, am I right to think a 29" hardtail MTB would be a good choice?

If so, the biggest frames I'm seein' are 23". Is that gonna work for me (6'4" w/ 33" inseam)?
Great suggestions on the Fargo and the other one. If you don't need suspension, don't lug it around.

Plenty of bikes out there to fit you. Enjoy the ride mi amigo.
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Old 12-10-2010, 07:39 PM   #18269
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/1406643...7625570274214/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1406643...7625570274214/


I am in dsc_0250, dcs_0249, dsc_0248 & dsc_0247 and dsc_0168 through dsc_0177


and I know no snow mud sleet slush but that grass was like pedaling with velcro wheels. Got to ride through a horse barn as well. Lots of deep sugar sand. The race took place at a ranch that has steeplechase races , the horse kind.
So there was a chance of running through er.....future Top soil. would that count as mud like subtance. we'll have to go the judges on that one!
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Old 12-11-2010, 05:39 AM   #18270
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/1406643...7625570274214/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1406643...7625570274214/


I am in dsc_0250, dcs_0249, dsc_0248 & dsc_0247 and dsc_0168 through dsc_0177


and I know no snow mud sleet slush but that grass was like pedaling with velcro wheels. Got to ride through a horse barn as well. Lots of deep sugar sand. The race took place at a ranch that has steeplechase races , the horse kind.


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