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Old 02-07-2011, 12:22 PM   #18796
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Wife got me a FlipHD for Christmas and finally got out to film a bit with my local club. This is my first video attempt on one of Tucson's more technical trails, Brown Mountain. Lots of steep climbing and tight, rocky switchbacks. I wish my model Flip had image stabilization but it doesn't. That's the next model up.

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Old 02-07-2011, 01:46 PM   #18797
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Ya know... In the 18mos I lived in Tucson, I didn't make it out there.

I know.

Did a buncha running on trails very similar around the house tho. Dog loved it. I suspect if I'da had a BC in Tucson, I'da been out riding with it insteada the Great White Pyrenees mix I have now. He got tired out at about 8mi

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Old 02-07-2011, 06:22 PM   #18798
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I'm looking for ideas about what to do with an old mountain bike. It's a 10 year Cannondale f600. The two biggest problems with it are a blown headshock and some frame damage. I hauled the bike to Moab tied to the inside of an aluminum trailer rail, I wrapped the frame tubes in towels but they moved during the trip and now the frame is scored a bit on the seat stay and on the head tube. I've also used it as a winter bike so there's some corrosion on the components. I don't really like riding it now because there's zero damping in the fork, and if I lock it out, there's still just enough travel to make it annoying/painful as the tiny bit of movement crashes into the stop.

Should I either
1) convert it to a conventional suspension fork
2) have the headshock rebuilt, or
3) write it off due to the frame damage and keep the usable parts?

I've been thinking of getting a hardtail 29er, would 26 inch disc wheels work in a 29 inch frame if I kept the wheels off the f600 and ran street tires on them?

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Old 02-07-2011, 08:55 PM   #18799
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I'll go with 3 and no.
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Old 02-07-2011, 09:51 PM   #18800
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I'll go with 3 and no.
What this guy says. Start looking for a new bike, sell the old one on craigslist for $100. Cheaper and better in the long run.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:30 PM   #18801
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yeah. 3. and CL. cannondales are full of nonstandard bits that are incompatible with anything else. starting with those forks you got.
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Old 02-07-2011, 11:34 PM   #18802
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I'm looking for ideas about what to do with an old mountain bike. It's a 10 year Cannondale f600.

Should I either
1) convert it to a conventional suspension fork
2) have the headshock rebuilt, or
3) write it off due to the frame damage and keep the usable parts?

I've been thinking of getting a hardtail 29er, would 26 inch disc wheels work in a 29 inch frame if I kept the wheels off the f600 and ran street tires on them?

I too have a 15 year old Cannodale with a headshock that is blown. I looked into rebuilding the fork last summer as I have an emotional attachment to the bike, but it was going to be like $700 to get the fork running again. That is just too close to a decent bike these days, and the advancement in brakes, shifters, etc is just to great to make it worthwhile. So mine is hanging from the ceiling in the garage. So much potential.

You'll be happy with a new 29er...
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Old 02-08-2011, 04:50 AM   #18803
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I too have a 15 year old Cannodale with a headshock that is blown. I looked into rebuilding the fork last summer as I have an emotional attachment to the bike, but it was going to be like $700 to get the fork running again. That is just too close to a decent bike these days, and the advancement in brakes, shifters, etc is just to great to make it worthwhile. So mine is hanging from the ceiling in the garage. So much potential.

You'll be happy with a new 29er...
Ok, thanks. $700 is a lot more than I'm willing to pay, too.
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:22 AM   #18804
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Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't you be able to run 26 inch wheels in a 29 inch frame if both sets of wheels ran disc brakes? It'd be nice to have spare set of wheels, without knobs on them, to throw on when I want to ride bike paths with the wife and kids.
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:52 AM   #18805
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I too have a 15 year old Cannodale with a headshock that is blown. I looked into rebuilding the fork last summer as I have an emotional attachment to the bike, but it was going to be like $700 to get the fork running again. That is just too close to a decent bike these days, and the advancement in brakes, shifters, etc is just to great to make it worthwhile. So mine is hanging from the ceiling in the garage. So much potential.

You'll be happy with a new 29er...
$700 sounds like the price for a complete replacement/w labor! Give this guy a shout:

http://www.mendoncyclesmith.com/

He's a Lefty/Headshock specialist, does excellent work for realistic prices.
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:54 AM   #18806
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I too have a 15 year old Cannodale with a headshock that is blown. I looked into rebuilding the fork last summer as I have an emotional attachment to the bike, but it was going to be like $700 to get the fork running again. That is just too close to a decent bike these days, and the advancement in brakes, shifters, etc is just to great to make it worthwhile. So mine is hanging from the ceiling in the garage. So much potential.

You'll be happy with a new 29er...

I had a cannondale with a headshock and the thing went thru 3 seals the first year I had it, never even took it off road!!!! One seal blew just sitting in my apartment over winter time. I got rid of that bike...
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Old 02-08-2011, 05:59 AM   #18807
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Just out of curiosity, why wouldn't you be able to run 26 inch wheels in a 29 inch frame if both sets of wheels ran disc brakes? It'd be nice to have spare set of wheels, without knobs on them, to throw on when I want to ride bike paths with the wife and kids.
Yes, you could put 26er wheels into a 29er frame with disc brakes. They would fit and the brakes would work.

However. As their names imply, they are respectively 26" and 29" diameter (approx) with knobbies. This means that running 26er knobbies on a 29er frame will put your cranks 1 1/2" closer to the ground. Can you spare this distance?

And. You want to run 29er knobbies and 26er skinnies? Loose another 1/2" or so.
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:04 AM   #18808
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Yes, you could put 26er wheels into a 29er frame with disc brakes. They would fit and the brakes would work.

However. As their names imply, they are respectively 26" and 29" diameter (approx) with knobbies. This means that running 26er knobbies on a 29er frame will put your cranks 1 1/2" closer to the ground. Can you spare this distance?

And. You want to run 29er knobbies and 26er skinnies? Loose another 1/2" or so.
Basically what he is saying, you will smack your pedals off of everything, even if you are riding on the street. If you only rode in a straight line, it might work but you would have to be very careful, even on the slightest of turns.
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Old 02-08-2011, 06:12 AM   #18809
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Should I either
1) convert it to a conventional suspension fork
2) have the headshock rebuilt, or
3) write it off due to the frame damage and keep the usable parts?

I've been thinking of getting a hardtail 29er, would 26 inch disc wheels work in a 29 inch frame if I kept the wheels off the f600 and ran street tires on them?

If you want to keep the bike, you can buy headtube reducers for about $30 to convert it to a standard 1 1/8" headtube. Then you can run any fork you want. You will need a new stem and headset as well. This probaly would be the least expensive option. Do not get it rebuilt unless you can get it done for cheep because it will blow out again. Contrary to what Pierce said, the head tube is the only non-standard part on those bikes, so once you have that converted you are good to go.
With all that in mind, 29ers are sweet, I would suggest buying a complete bike rather than swapping all the usable parts. It would not be that much more expensive and everything would be new and designed to work together.
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Old 02-08-2011, 10:00 AM   #18810
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Yes, you could put 26er wheels into a 29er frame with disc brakes. They would fit and the brakes would work.

However. As their names imply, they are respectively 26" and 29" diameter (approx) with knobbies. This means that running 26er knobbies on a 29er frame will put your cranks 1 1/2" closer to the ground. Can you spare this distance?

And. You want to run 29er knobbies and 26er skinnies? Loose another 1/2" or so.

they aren't actually 26 or 29". "26 inch" wheels are 559 millimeters at the rim bead (about the inner diameter of the tires), while "29 inch" are 622mm. 559mm is about 22", while 622 is about 24.5". this is the rim diameter, so the radius is going to be half of that, 11 vs 12.25", but of course, tire sizes toss all kinda variables into the picture.
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