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Old 02-28-2011, 06:54 PM   #19036
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I goof off on my road bike all the time and I worry about the forks the most. The C-dale 6/13 has a carbon steerer and I always worry it will snap off at the stem. Since I'm not a fist pumper if I win a race, I do dumb things by roadie standards such as wheelies, crossed up bunny hops and stoppies. Before you get excited, I've never won a group sprint, only solo break aways, so no one was ever in danger except me and finish line officials! One stoppie resulted in myself being launched over the bars and luckily I not only landed on my feet, it wasn't captured on film!
In the old days people use to stick "plugs" of wood on the steer tube to at least give them the chance to stop before the fork totally fall apart Needless to say Carbon steer tube scare the shit out of many including me, well the new "oversize" systems are a lot stronger but still is in your mind..

I never been a road bike rider, Track Yes many years ago on a 3-Rencho, so I never really learn how to deal with the weak brakes and minimal traction, yes the brakes of today are way more powerful but the skinny tires still equally weak, I do jump my Trek Madone (that I got for FREE, Long story) if I have to, actually the 700C wheels are pretty strong this days, specially if they are build with "Conventional Multi Spoke" parts (Not the crazy 12spoke, 200pound of tension spokes of some of the Racing wheels) so I can see how doing "CrAzY" stunts with out destroying the bike in seconds

Actually a good alternative are the Cyclocross bikes, Yes they are not as fast and/or nimble as a real road bike But then they can take way more pounding with only a pound of two of extra weight.

For example this Empella is about 18pounds (heavy build for a chubby dude) and goes like hell


Plus you can ride them pretty much anywhere and they will not break
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:18 PM   #19037
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Back in my BMX heyday they had issues with forks breaking at the bearing race (one put me in the hospital) so we made "Stiffies" out of old quil stems the same as you did with wood.

I love CX bikes. I have a Lemond Poprad Disc and a cracked and at the welder Trek XO as shown covered in frozen mud above. I always worried about the XO's aluminum legs bonded to a steel steering tub forks breaking but both chainstays cracked 1st. I'm looking to build or get a Single Speed CX in the near future.

I rode my XO on race team rides with 25c tires and it wasn't too bad, that is until my 42/12 gear became an issue on the long fast flats! Up here (or over) we have team rides every Wednesday that is above 25 and no snow on the pavement. Almost everyone rides a CX bike with either bald CX tires or 25-28c tires and full lights (start in the dark at 6pm) and head out into the Amish back roads
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:20 PM   #19038
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HEY GUMMEE

Where in NoVA are you? I may be moving to Bawlmer sometime this summer.
I answer this? I live SW of Manassas and work out in Warrenton

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Old 02-28-2011, 07:43 PM   #19039
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What's your favorite commuter tire? Road bike, 26"
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Old 02-28-2011, 07:46 PM   #19040
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I answer this? I live SW of Manassas and work out in Warrenton

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Sweet. When I get into that area I'll have to pedal down to your joint.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:44 AM   #19041
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Back in my BMX heyday they had issues with forks breaking at the bearing race (one put me in the hospital) so we made "Stiffies" out of old quil stems the same as you did with wood.
Oh man I bet the "Stiffies" made the fork bulletproof, but what else did you bend...??

Ps: I wish I did BMX, My skill level will be so much better.

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I love CX bikes. I have a Lemond Poprad Disc and a cracked and at the welder Trek XO as shown covered in frozen mud above. I always worried about the XO's aluminum legs bonded to a steel steering tub forks breaking but both chainstays cracked 1st. I'm looking to build or get a Single Speed CX in the near future.
Yeah the Steel Lemond's are actually really nice bikes, specially for what you pay for them.

So why did you take the frame to the welder, I was under the impression that Trek was pretty good about this kinds of failures.

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I rode my XO on race team rides with 25c tires and it wasn't too bad, that is until my 42/12 gear became an issue on the long fast flats! Up here (or over) we have team rides every Wednesday that is above 25 and no snow on the pavement. Almost everyone rides a CX bike with either bald CX tires or 25-28c tires and full lights (start in the dark at 6pm) and head out into the Amish back roads
I also did a few "Crits" at the golden gate park with a bunch of pretty fast riders, a few of them on cross bikes too and besides been drop do to lack of stamina the cross bike work really well riding on a peloton and taking really tight turns at speed
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Old 03-01-2011, 07:50 AM   #19042
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I've seen steel bikes come apart at the brazes when crashed. Steerer tube snapped. Lots of carnage. I used to be a USCF road official, working mostly from a motorcycle. hundreds of crashes. Lots of broken frames and bones.

A friend and I went to the Worlds Downhill championships in Vail one year. After watching several hotshot frames fail at speed I decided I liked steel for a mountain bike frame just fine.

When you break the front off a bike frame at speed on a mountain bike downhill it is not pretty.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:13 AM   #19043
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Sweet. When I get into that area I'll have to pedal down to your joint.
Ummm yeah. Its a good 90+ min from me to Baltimore in a cage. Bring the bike out and ride with me out in the cow fields.

Did 3 6min intervals this AM. Ugh.

The Turbomatic 4 Team Edition saddle I put on the Roubaix is a butt-breaker* when yer just JRA. IDK if the regular Turbomatic 4 is as firmly padded since I haven't ridden one. ...but when yer hustling, it feels great. Great shape.

*could also have something to do with the padding on the PI bib knickers I was wearing Sun not havin padding that hits my sit bones too. Pad's rotated too far back and the really nice, thickly padded sections are past where I actually sit. I think those bib knickers have seen their last season 'under' my arse.

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Old 03-01-2011, 09:13 AM   #19044
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So did I tell y'all that I screwed up my buddy's Alpha Q fork? If I didn't, I did. Effed it up real good. As in not 'rideable or fixable.' So I'm perusing CL in the DC area and run across this Airborne Ti bike with...

...and Alpha Q fork on it!

Guess who's gonna go to DC tomorrow and grab a frame and fork?

Plan is to sell off the frame and recoup some of the $$. Then I catch myself thinking 'hmmmm I haven't had a Ti bike in a while now...' and 'I can pull the 105 off the Allez...' As well as 'I'll have one of each: steel, AL, Ti, and carbon if I keep the Airborne...'

So I'll prolly be up to 7 bikes/frames here shortly.

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Old 03-01-2011, 09:54 AM   #19045
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I've got an AlphaQ fork in my basement.. straight blade legs, 45mm rake, 1 1/8 x 255mm carbon steertube. $50 plus ship.
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:05 AM   #19046
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I may take ya up on that later. Right now I need a 1" t-less Alpha Q

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Old 03-01-2011, 10:42 AM   #19047
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What's your favorite commuter tire? Road bike, 26"
Mtb? I used to use Tioga city slickers. I found them to be pretty good.
Continental makes some nice tour/commute tires that have a bit more tread
if you ride gravel or a bit of dirt on your commute.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:19 PM   #19048
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What's your favorite commuter tire? Road bike, 26"
In the past I've used Serfas Drifters with good results. They're cheap and seemed to wear pretty well, also puncture-resistant and have decent grip on dirt and gravel. The inverted tread design makes a weird suction cup sound in the wet, like a octopus trying to climb a glass wall.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:39 PM   #19049
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What's your favorite commuter tire? Road bike, 26"
road bike's aren't usually 26". I assume you mean a hybrid bike of some sort?

my favorite 26" fast street tire for a light bike is the Ritchie Tom Slick, but I dunno if those are still available. I know the 38x700c ones aren't

for a more cruiser-like ride, I rather like the Geax Evolution 26x1.9" I have on my cruiserish bike. fast, low rolling resistance, quiet ride.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:46 PM   #19050
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Any interest here in an 89 Merlin mtn bike?

Suntour Rollercam on the back. Mix of older XT and XTR



I'm gonna take pics an stick it on ebay here soon.

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