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Old 03-06-2011, 11:45 AM   #19216
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i have a question and it seems like it belongs on this thread.
well, i have been mountain biking over the last couple years two, three times a week on my old f/s GT. since i like riding and spending time in the woods- and i kept breaking my old bike down, i figured it was time to invest in something newer, better. so, i bought a nice, used but in like new condition EX8. the bike looks and handles just great.
but, and here it goes now, but i have realized contrary to what i held before that a 19.5 frame (which is 18.5 actual) could be just too small
for me. i'm 6'2 and weigh over 200lbs.
i could probably get away with more seat post, but is it worth it?
right now, i'm leaning towards selling it (which just sucks) and going with a 21. my old bike was an xl (which was more like 21.5).
what's to do here? I could (but not necessarily will) break even.
i have sold my woods 250 to get this mtb, because i had to be realistic and understand that i can ride a mtb 7 days/wk on awesome trail or pull my dirt bike once a month for two hours for rutted up c trail somewhere. and i like the exercise! now i can really ride my big thumper off road all day!
I am sure someone else will chime in, BUT.

I prefer a bigger frame with a shorter stem than a smaller frame with a longer one. I am 6'3" and usually ride with around a 24-24.5" TT......

I know the smaller frame will be "stiffer" but I ride some burly frames, so I don't see it being an issue.

I hear to and totally agree about the trail access issue. My dirtbike sits more and more these days with my MTB getting out a couple of times a week to ride actual trails.
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:47 AM   #19217
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What do you guys charge for your BG fit? I'm building a new road bike (starting with a Franco frame) and I have always done the fit myself. Now I worked in bike shops all through college and am somewhat informed on the process, but it's hard to do some of the measurements yourself. I'd like to get this new bike setup properly.
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Old 03-06-2011, 11:51 AM   #19218
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i have a question and it seems like it belongs on this thread.
well, i have been mountain biking over the last couple years two, three times a week on my old f/s GT. since i like riding and spending time in the woods- and i kept breaking my old bike down, i figured it was time to invest in something newer, better. so, i bought a nice, used but in like new condition EX8. the bike looks and handles just great.
but, and here it goes now, but i have realized contrary to what i held before that a 19.5 frame (which is 18.5 actual) could be just too small
for me. i'm 6'2 and weigh over 200lbs.
i could probably get away with more seat post, but is it worth it?
right now, i'm leaning towards selling it (which just sucks) and going with a 21. my old bike was an xl (which was more like 21.5).
what's to do here? I could (but not necessarily will) break even.
i have sold my woods 250 to get this mtb, because i had to be realistic and understand that i can ride a mtb 7 days/wk on awesome trail or pull my dirt bike once a month for two hours for rutted up c trail somewhere. and i like the exercise! now i can really ride my big thumper off road all day!
This an 'it depends' kinda question. IF you're off-roading on serious stuff smaller, stiffer and lighter is better. If that's the case, run the seat post up and the stem longer and call it good.

If you're on the road with some off-roading a bigger frame and less seatpost and stem is OK.

HTH

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Old 03-06-2011, 12:27 PM   #19219
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I'm 6' and 200-ish. i have relatively short legs for my height (32" inseam jeans) so a somewhat long torso. I have a "M" Stumpjumper boingy-bike, and its definitely a size too small for me... the "L" Stumpie isn't any taller, its longer front to back. the biggest problem is on steep hill climbs in the dirt, its hard to keep the front wheel tracking. also going down steep hills, I'd prefer my weight a little farther back than is practical on this frame. A longer wheelbase is the cure for both these things.
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Old 03-06-2011, 12:39 PM   #19220
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I forgot to add:
My buddy and I are the same size, with the same inseam. He likes longer stems on an already long TT bike. I like a more all-mountain type setup with riser bars and a shorter stem. When we ride he tends to just go for laps (he races XC) and I go look for obstacles and jumps and stuff.

So it really is a preference thing.
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:02 PM   #19221
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I'm 6'2 and weigh over 200lbs.
i could probably get away with more seat post, but is it worth it?
right now, i'm leaning towards selling it (which just sucks) and going with a 21. my old bike was an xl (which was more like 21.5)
I am 6'2" 210 (34" inseam) and ride a 21" 29r

I personally feel safer on on a bike with a shorter stem since it keeps my weight further behind the front axle on descents. I had a 19" Trek Fuel 100 and it was ok. Then it had to be replaced and Trek accidentaly replaced i't with a 21" and it fit me better. I also feel better on a 21" dirt jumper over a 19.

Try www.wrenchscience.com bike fit menu and good luck on your decision, especially since this is going to be your main ride
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:20 PM   #19222
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Got back to the OC, Pinarello shipped just fine despite TSA unsealing it and leaving it that way.



Gregg's in Lynnwood did a nice job of packing.



So, I pulled some parts off as I was assembling it.





And re-assembled with the fixed gear, 39X18





Then I saddled up the Roubaix and went for a ride along the river.
About a mile and a half out a guy comes by. I catch on and sit there on his wheel at 22 mph for another two miles, then drop myself on the second little climb. Zero power in my legs. I can spin, but push a little and I'm toast.

My plan was a light spin for 20 miles. So at the ten mile mark I turn around, thinking about how nice this headwind is going to feel now that it's a tailwind.

It takes me a mile or so to get my spin going and I hammer pretty good at about 18mph, then this really big guy comes by like a bus. I'd sat up and was just resting a little so I let him go. Then when he is out about a 1/4 mile I think I can catch him, so I put my head down and spin back up to 22.

I catch him and sit in. He kicks it back up to 21 and we're off and running.
About the time we git into the twisty hilly bits and I'm fine. I'm really enjoying leaning hard into the turns. This is a hoot.

Then I ride through my inside pedal it lifts the rear off the ground I countersteer and catch it, but the tube explodes on touchdown. I sit it up and ride it out, as I realize I've blown the tire.

So, I coast into the shade and pull off my backpack and change the tube. Blew that baby up good. about a 10" tear down the inside of the tube. No evidence of a pinch so??

Rode on home, legs are done for sure. Came past the guy I'd caught earlier on my way out, he was on a 120 mile day riding from Temecula.
And he had just moved from Cat V to Cat IV! The fours are getting fast these days.
We rode along at a good clip for five miles talking. Then I was done.
Can't do that for long.

If the IV's are that tough now days I don't even want to see the 55+ guys.
Probably still the same ex-pro's I used to have to ride with back in the damn day.

Man, it is great to be back home! Warm dry weather.

On injury on the day though,
Tore the nail off my toe and broke the damned thing again.

So much for my Mexican safety shoes.


That poor little piggy has been broke so many times if it was a wall street banker it'd qualify for recovery funding.
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:35 PM   #19223
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lovely piggy picture. sorry to hear about that mishap.
thanks everyone for replies. i feel if the bike was a true 19.5, like a hard tail, no problem, but it's an 18 or so, and that's where it starts being small. i need a really long seat post. i have just sold my other mtb, and man, i just have to say that at least judging from CL postings and such, the economy is in a big shitter.
since i have listed the EX all i have got is trade emails- which are fine, but
it just tells me how little money seems to be going around.
if i can't get anything for it, i'll just have to deal with a shorty frame and up the seat post and the bar.
my next bike, be it #2 or a replacement, is very likely going to be a
hard tail 29er. it seems like the industry has really shifted in that direction, and being a bigger guy it just makes sense.
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:39 PM   #19224
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lovely piggy picture. sorry to hear about that mishap.
thanks everyone for replies. i feel if the bike was a true 19.5, like a hard tail, no problem, but it's an 18 or so, and that's where it starts being small. i need a really long seat post. i have just sold my other mtb, and man, i just have to say that at least judging from CL postings and such, the economy is in a big shitter.
since i have listed the EX all i have got is trade emails- which are fine, but
it just tells me how little money seems to be going around.
if i can't get anything for it, i'll just have to deal with a shorty frame and up the seat post and the bar.
my next bike, be it #2 or a replacement, is very likely going to be a
hard tail 29er. it seems like the industry has really shifted in that direction, and being a bigger guy it just makes sense.
29ers make more sense size-wise for you than they do me. I'm 5'8" and while I can ride em, there's frame considerations...

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Old 03-06-2011, 01:47 PM   #19225
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Ski season's winding down. What did I miss?
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Old 03-06-2011, 01:50 PM   #19226
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Ski season's winding down. What did I miss?
New bikes. Lots of em. Not just me, but others.

Ricky's back.

There's more, but the Mully minute's over.

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Old 03-06-2011, 03:51 PM   #19227
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i feel if the bike was a true 19.5, like a hard tail, no problem, but it's an 18 or so, and that's where it starts being small. i need a really long seat post. i have just sold my other mtb, and man, i just have to say that at least judging from CL postings and such, the economy is in a big shitter.
since i have listed the EX all i have got is trade emails- which are fine, but
it just tells me how little money seems to be going around.
if i can't get anything for it, i'll just have to deal with a shorty frame and up the seat post and the bar.
my next bike, be it #2 or a replacement, is very likely going to be a
hard tail 29er. it seems like the industry has really shifted in that direction, and being a bigger guy it just makes sense.
Go for it. I was in the same situation. Never could get comfy on the 18" hardtail frame I got in trade for my old road bike. After building it up with Deore stuff I had laying around, I jacked the seat post way up there and still felt like a frog on a walnut. Last month I bought a lightly used XL frame Giant hard tail 29er off CL for a bargain. It fits my 6'0 220lb self like a glove. Never looked back. I'm 10 minutes a lap faster on it over a 10 mile single track loop than the old bike.The wagon wheeler positively hauls ass, even up the climbs. It handles like a dream. The only downside is I've gotten to the point (speed wise)where I feel like I should start wearing a pressure suit, which has never happened on a bicycle. The 26er will be going up for sale soon.
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Old 03-06-2011, 06:56 PM   #19228
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i have a question and it seems like it belongs on this thread.
well, i have been mountain biking over the last couple years two, three times a week on my old f/s GT. since i like riding and spending time in the woods- and i kept breaking my old bike down, i figured it was time to invest in something newer, better. so, i bought a nice, used but in like new condition EX8. the bike looks and handles just great.
but, and here it goes now, but i have realized contrary to what i held before that a 19.5 frame (which is 18.5 actual) could be just too small
for me. i'm 6'2 and weigh over 200lbs.
i could probably get away with more seat post, but is it worth it?
right now, i'm leaning towards selling it (which just sucks) and going with a 21. my old bike was an xl (which was more like 21.5).
what's to do here? I could (but not necessarily will) break even.
i have sold my woods 250 to get this mtb, because i had to be realistic and understand that i can ride a mtb 7 days/wk on awesome trail or pull my dirt bike once a month for two hours for rutted up c trail somewhere. and i like the exercise! now i can really ride my big thumper off road all day!
For my mountain bikes, I prefer to run a short stem on a larger frame. Keeps the handlebars higher, and quick handling of the bike.

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Old 03-06-2011, 08:04 PM   #19229
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One of the guys on yesterday's cross ride brought along his video camera and put it up on YouTube:



That's yours truly at the very beginning in the red/blue jersey. I would have been shown more, but the videographer didn't have a rearward facing camera. Or a telephoto lens.
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Old 03-07-2011, 04:21 AM   #19230
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thanks for the replies, i think im going to list the bike and see how it goes.
the hardest thing is going to be- i just like looking at it! it looks great in the house.
yeah, no need to feel like a 'frog on a walnut'

on a 29er only downside i can think of is, i dont know how much fun, 'all mountain' capability do they have. so far my riding has been
a fair mix of AM and XC, but the guys i have been riding lately are pushing more AM.
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