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Old 07-05-2011, 09:55 AM   #20941
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Got that call no one wants yesterday. Mom & Dad were up doing their annual bike club ride 4th of July wknd in Vermont.

Their 2nd day; Dad was riding ahead of his club on a descent 10 deg. No one was with him- but when they came upon him he was lying on the side of the road unconscious bleeding profusely from the head, he was wearing his helmet. He had done this ride 20 times.

Accidental deaths are freaky.

Crap. Sorry to hear this. Our hearts go out to you and your family.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:19 AM   #20942
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Heck, if I resell them, I would only be into the bike for $50!
Unless you need a hybrid, don't bother. Cross and hybrids is like oil and water.

If you don't have barends on your mtn bike, you can get away with one for the first try. I know I did. Locked the fork out on my F2000 and went at it. No one batted an eye. I DID get lapped 3x and was on the way to getting lapped a 4th time when the winner crossed the line right behind me.

So what I'm saying is that cross bikes are cross bikes for a reason.

IME tubulars are the way to go, so break out them old D/A wheels and go at it! Tufo T-series (I've run T28s and T34s) are bulletproof tires that last for a very long time. Not the lightest. Not the best rolling. Just effing tough. I've mtn biked on a pair for a few years, racing em in the middle. GL and GEL rims aren't quite strong enough, but Mach2CD2s are OK. IDK about GP4s.

For the first cross bike, don't go expensive. After all, its not for everyone. Seeing crosseyed from pain and still getting lapped sucks.

If you do decide to race cross, see if you can't find a mid-week practice session. Getting on and off the bike quickly and smoothly is one of the best ways to avoid some of the pain and crosseyedness.

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Old 07-05-2011, 12:49 PM   #20943
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Speaking of cyclocross, I'm looking at building up a Soma Double Cross. I like the multifunctional nature (can't afford dedicated road and cross bikes). It appears well-suited to the kind of riding I do; dirt paths, fire roads, some singletrack, then swap out the wheels and make like a roadie. The reviews are positive, just wondering if anyone on the Esteemed Panel has any experience with it. It looks like I'll be doing the build in super slo-mo, buying components as I can afford them, upgrading my existing cross bike, then swapping them all over to the new frame once I have all the fixins.
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:51 PM   #20944
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Unless you need a hybrid, don't bother. Cross and hybrids is like oil and water.

If you don't have barends on your mtn bike, you can get away with one for the first try. I know I did. Locked the fork out on my F2000 and went at it. No one batted an eye. I DID get lapped 3x and was on the way to getting lapped a 4th time when the winner crossed the line right behind me.

So what I'm saying is that cross bikes are cross bikes for a reason.

IME tubulars are the way to go, so break out them old D/A wheels and go at it! Tufo T-series (I've run T28s and T34s) are bulletproof tires that last for a very long time. Not the lightest. Not the best rolling. Just effing tough. I've mtn biked on a pair for a few years, racing em in the middle. GL and GEL rims aren't quite strong enough, but Mach2CD2s are OK. IDK about GP4s.

For the first cross bike, don't go expensive. After all, its not for everyone. Seeing crosseyed from pain and still getting lapped sucks.

If you do decide to race cross, see if you can't find a mid-week practice session. Getting on and off the bike quickly and smoothly is one of the best ways to avoid some of the pain and crosseyedness.

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I plan on attempting it somehow... just sitting here toodling around in square one trying to decide which direction I want to start. The only MTB I have is my Soma Juice SS 29'er and it has the bent/sloped top tube so that's out for hucking up on my shoulder, or trying to clear obstacles in a hurry.

Bonktown had the Kona Major One for $550 earlier today... but of course they only had two sizes of XL and behemoth.

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Speaking of cyclocross, I'm looking at building up a Soma Double Cross. I like the multifunctional nature (can't afford dedicated road and cross bikes). It appears well-suited to the kind of riding I do; dirt paths, fire roads, some singletrack, then swap out the wheels and make like a roadie. The reviews are positive, just wondering if anyone on the Esteemed Panel has any experience with it. It looks like I'll be doing the build in super slo-mo, buying components as I can afford them, upgrading my existing cross bike, then swapping them all over to the new frame once I have all the fixins.
Love Soma's frames and my Juice is one of my prized possessions. If I were to spend the coin on a cross bike, it would be built with the Double cross DC as the foundation. The disc mounts would be well worth it IMHO, as you can get road wheels with disc hubs now as well.
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:54 PM   #20945
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Speaking of cyclocross, I'm looking at building up a Soma Double Cross. I like the multifunctional nature (can't afford dedicated road and cross bikes). It appears well-suited to the kind of riding I do; dirt paths, fire roads, some singletrack, then swap out the TIRES and make like a roadie. The reviews are positive, just wondering if anyone on the Esteemed Panel has any experience with it. It looks like I'll be doing the build in super slo-mo, buying components as I can afford them, upgrading my existing cross bike, then swapping them all over to the new frame once I have all the fixins.
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I know my Crosshairs falls into the 'do almost everything OK' category. Its certainly not a race bike, tho its been raced. I've taken it mtn biking, dirt road riding, as well as fast road rides. (slow ones too!)

IMO get the thing built and then fix what you don't like. IOW ride it and see where the shortcomings are. I figured out that compact is fine on the road, but that 50t is too big for racing with my cassette so I switch to a 44/46t big ring to race. I've also figured out I need a new fork. The Ouzo Pro I have on there has always been flexy. Fork shudder sucks. I may limp it along with some mini-vs till I get the $$ raised to get a new Edge fork.

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Old 07-05-2011, 12:57 PM   #20946
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I plan on attempting it somehow... just sitting here toodling around in square one trying to decide which direction I want to start. The only MTB I have is my Soma Juice SS 29'er and it has the bent/sloped top tube so that's out for hucking up on my shoulder, or trying to clear obstacles in a hurry.
I've carried on the underside of the saddle before. My frames are 16/17" mtn frames and they get REAL small inside the triangle.

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Bonktown had the Kona Major One for $550 earlier today... but of course they only had two sizes of XL and behemoth.
for 'ease of use' get something you can run gears on.

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Love Soma's frames and my Juice is one of my prized possessions. If I were to spend the coin on a cross bike, it would be built with the Double cross DC as the foundation. The disc mounts would be well worth it IMHO, as you can get road wheels with disc hubs now as well.
I'm not sold on discs for racing. For everything else, they're probably fantastic things. I know on the mtn bike they were the shiznit, but that's in the mud, nasties, wet, etc. and not on the nice, clean, smooth road. Gravel roads like Askel is riding may be a different story.

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Old 07-05-2011, 01:04 PM   #20947
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I've carried on the underside of the saddle before. My frames are 16/17" mtn frames and they get REAL small inside the triangle.
Had not really considered that. May have to try it out on my local trails. It's about 23 pounds though, so I may need to start doing some push-ups...

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for 'ease of use' get something you can run gears on.
Gears are over-rated. Especially for the CX courses around here.

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I'm not sold on discs for racing. For everything else, they're probably fantastic things. I know on the mtn bike they were the shiznit, but that's in the mud, nasties, wet, etc. and not on the nice, clean, smooth road. Gravel roads like Askel is riding may be a different story.

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Discs, imho, are well worth it for CX from the few races I have watched. Getting in the slush/snow/mud around here in December and January is a nasty mix of red clay that's slicker-n-snot and renders many a rim-brake nearly useless. That's my experiences from the MTB side of things anyway. I just see the discs as staying much cleaner and drier to allow for better braking. Out-braking your opponents can be just as handy as outrunning them.
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Old 07-05-2011, 01:51 PM   #20948
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Bicycle newbie here.

Over the 6months I have been riding what I thought was a mountain bike through local parks and enjoying it (picked it up used from a flea market). Then I rode my friends hard tail Specialized Stumpjumer 29in. That thing ROCKED!

So I went to trade in my mountain bike only to be informed it wasn't a small mountain bike but rather a dirt jumper (its the Kona Shred)... Oooops... Regardless it served is purpose. Then I looked around the store and realized that these mountain bikes cost more than my dirt bike!

Any reccomendations on a budget friendly mountain bike? I dont need the fastest, greatest or lightest (anything will be lighter than what I have been riding). Just something reliable and am able to have fun with.

Also anybody want a Kona Shred to mess around on?
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:45 PM   #20949
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Bicycle newbie here.

Over the 6months I have been riding what I thought was a mountain bike through local parks and enjoying it (picked it up used from a flea market). Then I rode my friends hard tail Specialized Stumpjumer 29in. That thing ROCKED!

So I went to trade in my mountain bike only to be informed it wasn't a small mountain bike but rather a dirt jumper (its the Kona Shred)... Oooops... Regardless it served is purpose. Then I looked around the store and realized that these mountain bikes cost more than my dirt bike!

Any reccomendations on a budget friendly mountain bike? I dont need the fastest, greatest or lightest (anything will be lighter than what I have been riding). Just something reliable and am able to have fun with.

Also anybody want a Kona Shred to mess around on?
You're lucky. DC's craigslist is a gold mine.

If you're in no hurry, you'll find something to ride for cheap.

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Old 07-05-2011, 02:47 PM   #20950
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Out-braking your opponents can be just as handy as outrunning them.
Done right, you don't need to outbrake em. Hop off and back on at a faster speed does the same thing.

Trouble is... getting to the point where you can hop off at speed takes some cojones. DAMHIK

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Old 07-05-2011, 02:48 PM   #20951
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Trouble is... getting to the point where you can hop off at speed takes some cojones. DAMHIK

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Or the loss of said cojones in the process...
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Old 07-05-2011, 02:50 PM   #20952
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Or the loss of said cojones in the process...
Nah. You're already half off the bike anyway!

Getting whacked in the back of the head by your bike is no fun. Nor is tangling up in the frame. or...



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Old 07-05-2011, 02:55 PM   #20953
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or barreling up to the first barracade at warp speed and forgetting to grab some brake prior to dismount
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or barreling up to the first barracade at warp speed and forgetting to grab some brake prior to dismount
I see you've had the same fun I have



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This weekend made it official. I turned in my 5 year-old beat up mtb shoes and SPDs for white Sidis and SPD-SL pedals on the roadie.

I've gone full Fred.

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