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Old 09-22-2011, 01:11 PM   #21646
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Got home late last night. Went out for a short 40 minute ride. Rode to the park and back half way up my hill. Non-stop again. I got the bottom managed. Now, just more trips over the top, then there are many more hills between me and water.

So Cal ain't flat.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:51 PM   #21647
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He'd need a mid-cage RD to swing that 28T. Otherwise, a 27T is as large as he can go with a short-cage, which is what Specialized have used up through 2011 (except the one Apex model). I've noticed that a few of the 2012 Roubaix models are coming with a mid-cage RD. That's a good move.
Definitely true. I've got a new shorty on there now. So far, the stock cassette (11-25, I think) has been okay for most of the riding I do.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:49 PM   #21648
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I'm currently sitting at 48/36/26 trekking crank with a 12-34 rear casette. I'm basically just a MTB crankset and 12-36 away from just getting in my car.
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Old 09-22-2011, 05:08 PM   #21649
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Hint: Don't ask anybody here for advice. We'll all just try and defend our own dumb equipment choices.

Reality: Your own personal motor has different speeds at which it operates most efficiently, generates the most power, etc. Who you ride with and where you ride makes gearing choices even more personal. Furthermore, if you're just getting back into bicycling- all these variables will change to surprisingly large degrees as you progress in the sport.

The only right choice is whatever gets you out and riding.

If you're a macho roadie- traditional double and the smallest fucking cassette you can find on the back. The rest is just a long downhill slide into loserville. I'm currently sitting at 48/36/26 trekking crank with a 12-34 rear casette. I'm basically just a MTB crankset and 12-36 away from just getting in my car.
+1 on that

I happen to own a LHT and I love it. mine is a factory build,it's great except for the brakes. It's heavy ,but you get used to that. The Triple on mine is 48/36/26 which is pretty much a compact on outer two chainrings. With an 11-34 9 speed. Trust me you go to the moutains you're gonna need a triple
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Old 09-22-2011, 05:53 PM   #21650
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........... Just have to justify the $2k for something without a motor! I would love to find a ride group around here too-having a tough time motivating buddies to ride mtb. They are all Jeep/Moto/Golf/Beer.
Once you ride that $2k bike - it will be justified. I bought the Giant Anthem 29er......and it rocks. I just got back from riding tonight - trails all to myself .....and I always wear knee guards. They do not hinder or bother me at all. When it's 95 degrees and humid they get warm when standing still. But I still wear them. They are the Kali Aazis Soft knee guards....they do have a plastic protector knee cup though.

http://www.xsportsprotective.com/kal...knee-pads.html

I did my first race a few Sundays ago. Only guy with knee guards....and baggy mtn bike shorts for that matter....oh yeah and with flat pedals too... but I was midpack for the Beginner 30 - 49 age group. I was oldest at 48 so I don't think I did too bad. The other guy in the 40 group (he was 40) used to race and he only beat me by 3 1/2 minutes. But I sure was sucking air towards the end but what a blast.

I was getting lots of questions about the knee guards but then a few folks were telling me that they should really get some of those. Especially the few showing me their knee scars. I just told them it's a carry over from riding mc's which is also why I don't like my feet clipped in.
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Old 09-23-2011, 05:27 AM   #21651
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I was getting lots of questions about the knee guards but then a few folks were telling me that they should really get some of those. Especially the few showing me their knee scars. I just told them it's a carry over from riding mc's which is also why I don't like my feet clipped in.
If you want to get faster and more efficient, you're gonna have to get over that last part. Clipless lets you be one with the bike. ...and once you get used to getting in and out, they're pretty well transparent. Heck! I was wondering how to put em on the ATK!

AFA falling on the mtn bike: I don't remember the last time I hit my knee specifically. Its always my side(s).

Last nite's ride: Went to meet at Pearson Ele down in Calverton. I didn't want to go all the way down to Culpeper and Sandy didn't want to drive the whole way up to me. Calverton is in the middle...

So I get there and no Sandy.



Wander over to a couple of teachers and asked if they'd seen anyone on a bike wearing yellow and green. 'oh yeah. I think he left and went that way. (pointing north where I just came from)

Hmmmm I AM a few minutes late. I can understand him taking off. So I hopped back on the bike and went back north. Had a great little spin back towards home. On the way, I caught up to this guy and his obviously n00b buddy. Said 'howdy' and sucked in behind em.

New guy was struggling to stay on the more experienced guy's wheel. Course, we WERE doing 38kph so I can understand that. I stayed on n00b's wheel 'cause I knew if I was on the guy's wheel, we'd both walk away from the n00b (and I didn't want to put forth the effort to go that fast)

So I sucked wheel for the next few miles. Yay for sucking wheel.

Peeled off when they stopped at Mayhugh's store and wandered back home. All told, I was out 2:33 or so. After the hammering of the last couple of days, I actually feel pretty darn good. I don't think I have a whole lot of juice left in my legs if I were to need to go fast. Good thing I'm not going to need to go fast till Sun. I *think* I'm going to be able to go racing Sun. Yay cross! I'll report back whatever happens. I just hope I don't pull a Joey...

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Old 09-23-2011, 05:55 AM   #21652
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If you want to get faster and more efficient, you're gonna have to get over that last part. Clipless lets you be one with the bike. ...and once you get used to getting in and out, they're pretty well transparent. Heck! I was wondering how to put em on the ATK!

AFA falling on the mtn bike: I don't remember the last time I hit my knee specifically. Its always my side(s).

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I do have the clipless setup and tried it......it made me apprehensive when hitting the big obstacles so I would pick the safe line....I really like going for it so it was back to flats. I also would get knee pain from my legs being locked in but had the cheaper Shimano pedals which probably minimized float. Running the Shimano AM40's with Forte Convert pedals. Stick like glue. And no knee pain.

Yep - I think I've only hit my knee once where the guards really paid off. But they still give me a sense of comfort. We ride a lot of rocky areas so I have to do what helps me enjoy the ride. If I was 20 years younger I would probably nix the guards and hit 4' drops.....but I'm not. I think!
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:32 AM   #21653
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I went back to flats last week after a ride on the single track. I could get out of the clips easy enough, it was getting back in that was the problem. My pedals are the cheapies, so that may be my problem. Is there a pedal that is easier to get into?
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:35 AM   #21654
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ATACs or Quartz pedals are probably some of the easiest I've tried to get in to. I had a couple of bikes with Crank Bros pedals on em in the garage last week. They've got bushings and not bearings in the inboard spot. I'd recommend staying away.

AFA the most float: by far Speedplay Frogs. If you want even more float than that, shave the bump stop off and make em like the first gen pedals aka Magnums

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Old 09-23-2011, 06:54 AM   #21655
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hydraulics brakes. particular ones that i have, don't know if all are like this, have no reservoir like you would find on the handlebars of a motorcycle. what is the procedure for filling and bleeding?
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:56 AM   #21656
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hydraulics brakes. particular ones that i have, don't know if all are like this, have no reservoir like you would find on the handlebars of a motorcycle. what is the procedure for filling and bleeding?
Google is your friend since we don't know which brakes you're running.



Oh, and they do have a reservoir, its just way small.

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Old 09-23-2011, 08:02 AM   #21657
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Got home about 15 minutes earlier than the day before. Still late, but went for a ride anyway. Big wind going oout. I could only manage 13 mph for the first 15 minutes or so, then after the hill down to the park where the path is protected by all the trees, I could finally get to 18 mph. Across the bridge and down the far side I slowed again.

A side note here: the bridge is wooden planks running cross-wise to travel. Bumpy of course. Every time I cross this thing my wheels feel lumpy for the next 50 yards or so.
Then everything is smooth again.

Anyway on the far side still battling the head wind, a guy on a mtb frame with skinny wheels, mtb crank and small block out back middle ring and outside cog out back, comes by like I'm painted on the fence. I was just beginning to warm and loosen up. As he got out ahead by a good hundred meters or so I spun things up and caught pretty quickly. I sat in and rested at about 22 mph. He's running tri-bar horns on mtb flat bars. I rest up and his speed drops to a much more manageable 20, then just under. Along the straight I spin up and pass. I keep my speed to 22 mph or above for the next five minutes. I never hear him of course since he'd have to be on a blewie-piped Harley for me to hear him. So I'm closing in on my 5:30 turn around time at about 5:27 and he finally pulls around.
I'm pretty much done at this point. Steam is beginning to come out my ears, and the legs need a nice spin to recover for the climb home.
The next underpass after he passes I sit up and let him go. I'm satisfied I could chase and catch, pull through and hold the speed. I did only hold that speed to see how long I could.
Can't get faster or stronger by coasting.
So, I'm getting there, but I see this as a long road probably getting to real fun come next May or so.
I climbed the face to the house again, the wind was brutal though. Man, that just about stopped me once or twice. I was able to turn the middle ring over for longer and really get a light feeling pedal going for a good bit on the start of the hill. And I'm not dropping into the bottom of the gearbox anymore so progress. About 21 miles and nearly 16 mph average. On the way back, on my own I was able to stay at about 20 mph for around 4 miles.
Getting to an average of 20 mph really requires some horsepower. Once you get past 15 mph drag begins to take over and most of the energy we put into the pedals goes into overcoming aerodynamic drag. I think the exact number is closer to 18 mph and 80% or something. Getting form 12 to 15 is not much more than just regular time on the bike. 15 to 18 is more time and developing power and stamina. Making the jump to 20 or more is huge. I'm even more impressed with how I used to be able to ride when I was young.
I looked down at the speedometer last night on the climb, where I was really just surviving turning over the crank, and it showed 5 and a bit mph.
That needs to read 10 to be fast.
That is a good long ways off. My knees may not let me ever get to that, but nothing says I can't give it a go.

I worked hard enough to get my lungs huffing and puffing by the time I made the turn onto flatter ground. More of that will get me closer to pushing over the top of the hill more times during a month too.
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:16 AM   #21658
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I went back to flats last week after a ride on the single track. I could get out of the clips easy enough, it was getting back in that was the problem. My pedals are the cheapies, so that may be my problem. Is there a pedal that is easier to get into?
Crank Brothers Candy or Speedplay Frogs, though the Frogs don't clear away mud as easily.

I have the Eggbeaters, too. But, they're much more difficult to get into and don't have the support of the Candy. Also, the platform of the Candy protects the retention wings, which is important in rocky areas.

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ATACs or Quartz pedals are probably some of the easiest I've tried to get in to. I had a couple of bikes with Crank Bros pedals on em in the garage last week. They've got bushings and not bearings in the inboard spot. I'd recommend staying away.
Those are the cheapest model they have. You gotta' get the level "3" or "11", as they're needle bearing inners with cartridge bearing outers.
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:33 AM   #21659
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For those of you interested in clipless (not that there is anything wrong with that) for MTB. You may want to check out these. Don't know if they are officially out yet though.

Speedplay Syzr

I am more into these.

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Old 09-23-2011, 10:25 AM   #21660
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I went back to flats last week after a ride on the single track. I could get out of the clips easy enough, it was getting back in that was the problem. My pedals are the cheapies, so that may be my problem. Is there a pedal that is easier to get into?


I've got these on all my bikes,I like them because it has the flats side,if you can't get in them you can still pedal. set them loose and they'll give some float.




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