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Old 12-23-2011, 08:38 AM   #22486
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If you end up with a bike with cantilever brakes, it's worth learning how to adjust them yourself. Set up properly, they're more than adequate for stopping that kind of bike, albeit maybe not as good as discs or caliper brakes.

Setup improperly, they're scary worthless death levers that will make you swear the things off forever and ever.
I think we've strayed from the mission here. The basic requirement for the brakes is the ability to stop me - and a case of beer - from roughly 15mph, in the length of a city block.
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:58 AM   #22487
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Bottles or cans?
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Old 12-23-2011, 08:58 AM   #22488
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I think we've strayed from the mission here. The basic requirement for the brakes is the ability to stop me - and a case of beer - from roughly 15mph, in the length of a city block.
Hell, your feet sliding along the ground will do that. No brakes needed.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:01 AM   #22489
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Bottles or cans?
can your average rear rack support 24 bottles?
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:16 AM   #22490
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can your average rear rack support 24 bottles?
That's why you get a rear *and* a front rack.

Better beer carrying capacity.

But yeah. Even the worlds most crap no name cantilever brakes should get the job done. If, for some reason, they're horribly misadjusted- read this: http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-...-brake-service
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:45 AM   #22491
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While we're considering practicality, lets touch briefly on pant legs tucked into socks or held at bay by velcro straps and rubber bands.

When did chain guards cease to exist? Are they too fucking practical to warrant consideration? Or do they simply not fit around modern 56-speed front gearset-thingies?

I just want to hop on and go. I'm not going to buy something I can't put a chain guard on. Seriously.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:03 AM   #22492
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Or do they simply not fit around modern 56-speed front gearset-thingies?
This. They don't work well with the constantly changing chainline of a derailleur drive train. You can still find them on single speed bikes and bikes with an internally geared rear hub.

I never have much problem with chain goop though. I just dorkify my pants enough to keep them out of the front chain ring (roll them up midcalf or something).
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:17 AM   #22493
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I never have much problem with chain goop though. I just dorkify my pants enough to keep them out of the front chain ring (roll them up midcalf or something).
That's what I do. It's either a fashion signal to fellow wheelmen, or a dork alerter. Never sure which.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:50 AM   #22494
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Most any bike shop will have those Velcro straps that you can put around your pant leg to keep it out of the chainring (or the bottle cage on the seat tube ). Rip it off and stick it in your pocket when you get to the brewery.

Cans may be lighter, but if you put the bottles on the rack just right they're, like, more aero 'n stuff.
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:12 AM   #22495
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:31 AM   #22496
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Most any bike shop will have those Velcro straps that you can put around your pant leg to keep it out of the chainring (or the bottle cage on the seat tube ). Rip it off and stick it in your pocket when you get to the brewery.
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That's what I do. It's either a fashion signal to fellow wheelmen, or a dork alerter. Never sure which.
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This. They don't work well with the constantly changing chainline of a derailleur drive train. You can still find them on single speed bikes and bikes with an internally geared rear hub.



The whole point of a bicycle is that it is easy. Hop on and go. No gas, no parking, no dicking around. I don't want to stand there with my ass in the air rearranging my pant leg every time I make a run for hummus.
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:52 AM   #22497
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I'm gonna cordially disagree with you. Driving a car is WAY easier than riding a bike. I ride a bike because I like having my face in the wind, I like a little workout with my transport, all that stuff.
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:54 AM   #22498
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The whole point of a bicycle is that it is easy. Hop on and go. No gas, no parking, no dicking around. I don't want to stand there with my ass in the air rearranging my pant leg every time I make a run for hummus.
Lots of good bikes for this, they usually get sold under the name of "commuters".

Civia makes some cool ones: http://civiacycles.com/bikes/

Jamis also does: http://jamisbikes.com/usa/thebikes/s...commuter4.html

I kind of like the Scotts: http://www.scott-sports.com/us_en/pr...0/55874/218048

If you don't have to deal with whole hills thing much, single speeds get even simpler for bombing around.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:04 PM   #22499
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I'm gonna cordially disagree with you. Driving a car is WAY easier than riding a bike. I ride a bike because I like having my face in the wind, I like a little workout with my transport, all that stuff.
I live in a world of metered parking and traffic clusterfucks, about as close to downtown as you can be without being in it. I'm single and can carry a week's groceries in a big messenger bag. I travel distances that could realistically be walked.

It is either a bicycle or a scooter. I figure my lazy ass could use some exercise.
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:09 PM   #22500
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Lots of good bikes for this, they usually get sold under the name of "commuters".
I had a hybridish commutery thing and hated it. The seat tube angle and low bars mean you lean forward but your feet are forward, so your knees bang you in the chest with every stroke. Well, not really, but it sucks.

I just want a goddamned road bike with fenders and racks and a chain guard to go a couple miles to my brother's place or run to the store. Why is this so hard?

Maybe an old steel road frame with a single speed and a freewheel hub and a chain guard is the way to go. I'll just build one. Yeah. I can do that. I have all winter. What could go wrong?
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