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Old 08-12-2012, 09:21 PM   #24766
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does anyone have a favorite brand of BMX pin pedals for my new hybrid? I like pedals that spin freely, and aren't too heavy, and of course, aren't too expensive (say, under $50 for a pair online...)
At the risk of sounding like a jerk, did you ever think that maybe you know so much about pedal internals and common pedal problems because you limit you budget to $50 yet also expect light and high performance? It's like the old racing adage...performance, lightweight, cheap. Pick two. To bastardize the original a bit, anyway.

Every since a buddy turned me onto the DMR Vault pedals, well, that's about all I'll consider (for platforms, I mean). I have a size 14 foot and weigh just over 200. They're light, they spin nice, and they're really well made. They're also 2.5 times your budget, however. Again, two out of three. But to me the pedal is one of the most critical bike components. If it fails at the wrong time, you hurt a lot.


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Old 08-12-2012, 09:40 PM   #24767
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I'm putting these platforms on a $350* hybrid. I'm not spending $150 for killer pedals, I'm not doing massive downhill, or big air jumps, I'll be riding bike paths, around town, and occasional gravel roads.

The Sun Ringle Zuzu's are just fine for my use, I was just curious what experiences other folks had out there with alternatives, as most of my bikes in the past have used SPD or old school KKT style platform pedals, or toe clips. this is a city bike hybrid, I don't want to wear clipless shoes, and I realized I am way past wanting to use toeclips, and remembered someone suggesting bmx style pin platforms awhile back, so I had bought a pair of those Suns at a LBS for too much on a whim, and had just put them on my old hybrid a few weeks before it got totalled while on the front hitch rack of our van...




*ok, its a $500-ish hybrid I picked up for $350 as a dealer demo
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:46 PM   #24768
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Decent day on the bike. Came in mid pack and our plan worked out fairly well. Stayed with the fast pack to about 130k when the hills started up again in ernest. At the end the first place finisher was about 4:30 ahead of me and the guy I ride with. Pretty spent.


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Old 08-13-2012, 05:00 AM   #24769
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I'm putting these platforms on a $350* hybrid. I'm not spending $150 for killer pedals, I'm not doing massive downhill, or big air jumps, I'll be riding bike paths, around town, and occasional gravel roads.

The Sun Ringle Zuzu's are just fine for my use, I was just curious what experiences other folks had out there with alternatives
My one complaint about the Sun Ringle's is that they don't do a very good job of preventing my feet from sliding around on bumpy terrain. I have a set of Specialized pedals on my 29er that does a much better job. Not only are there more pins on them, but they're spread out more evenly, not just around the edge of the pedal like they are on the Ringles. Thing is, the Specialized pedals cost me over $100, but if you can find a less expensive pedal with the same features, buy them.
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Old 08-13-2012, 05:18 AM   #24770
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@Pierce: its still clipless FTW

Pearl Izumi makes some 'running shoe' looking shoes so you're not even dealing with the stiffer soles of even entry level mtn bike shoes.

Rest week for me this week. Hour easy today. I'ma gonna ride with the slow folks Wed. Another hour's toodle Thurs and 2hrs on Sat.

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Old 08-13-2012, 06:24 AM   #24771
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I both fully agree and fully disagree with Gummee on the clipless thing.

First, there's nothing wrong with riding on flats. Heck, I saw more than a couple guys riding them in the Leadville 100 two days ago. And more and more riders from the west coast are doing XC on them again because of the DH stuff they like to do, too. They're coming back thanks to good platforms and good shoes for them being available (used to be everyone wore skateboard shoes because of the soles). You'll build MUCH better bike handling skills on flats if you start trying to get even *some* air without killing yourself, too.

But like Gummee said, there are now some better shoes for people who want to be clipped in but DON'T want to deal with the bullshit of most cycling shoes. In fact, I rode Pearl Izumi Fuel shoes for Leadville. They feel like a normal walking/running shoe when on your feet with the exception of occasionally hearing/feeling that cleat if you're on uneven surfaces. I've only recently started riding platforms on my pump track bike and for years have worn fully rigid Sidi Dominators on the mountain bike. But fully rigid shoes hurt my feet and back if I have to walk much, and I knew I'd have to do some walking at Leadville (okay, a lot of walking). So I tried some more flexible shoes and have really found no good reason to be mountain biking in rigid shoes. I don't believe there's any significant performance advantage. I do think there are advantages to being clipped in, but like I said, platforms have their place, too.

Anyway, the original question wasn't framed in the "$350 bike" category, but I'm not sure I'd change my answer. You asked for performance and lightweight. You'll reap those benefits even on a $350 bike. Still, I understand the budgetary needs, too...but this is biking where EVERYTHING is some kind of compromise.

Plus I guess the thing to remember is $125 pedals can move from bike to bike for a long time...


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Old 08-13-2012, 07:45 AM   #24772
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But like Gummee said, there are now some better shoes for people who want to be clipped in but DON'T want to deal with the bullshit of most cycling shoes. In fact, I rode Pearl Izumi Fuel shoes for Leadville. They feel like a normal walking/running shoe when on your feet with the exception of occasionally hearing/feeling that cleat if you're on uneven surfaces. I've only recently started riding platforms on my pump track bike and for years have worn fully rigid Sidi Dominators on the mountain bike. But fully rigid shoes hurt my feet and back if I have to walk much, and I knew I'd have to do some walking at Leadville (okay, a lot of walking). So I tried some more flexible shoes and have really found no good reason to be mountain biking in rigid shoes. I don't believe there's any significant performance advantage. I do think there are advantages to being clipped in, but like I said, platforms have their place, too.
Agreed. I ride an older pair of Specialized Tahoe, both road and MTB. My rigid stuff has gone into a storage tote.

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Plus I guess the thing to remember is $125 pedals can move from bike to bike for a long time...
Agreed.
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:15 AM   #24773
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i wear my casual cycling shoes all say at work. m520 cleat ....
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Old 08-13-2012, 08:22 AM   #24774
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If it's saddle pain that bugs you when it comes to going longer, I just wrote a piece on my blog about that today...

Now if it's the legs and/or lungs, you just gotta keep working at it.


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oh no is not saddle pain at all .... after two hours i gvot tgo do other things.

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Old 08-13-2012, 08:33 AM   #24775
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so the sun ringle zuzu BMX pin pedals I'd put on my last hybrid are in fact bent and damaged from the car crash that destroyed pretty much every other part of the bike.




does anyone have a favorite brand of BMX pin pedals for my new hybrid? I like pedals that spin freely, and aren't too heavy, and of course, aren't too expensive (say, under $50 for a pair online...)

I cracked these pedals riding rocky trails on my Reign. I would not recommend them... i'll try to get a picture.
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Old 08-13-2012, 09:45 AM   #24776
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hey tall folks

any of you gigantors have experience or know anybody with one of these ?

http://www.khsbicycles.com/05_flite_747_12.htm


have a friend 6'4" that is looking at them.
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:26 AM   #24777
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any of you gigantors have experience or know anybody with one of these ?

http://www.khsbicycles.com/05_flite_747_12.htm


have a friend 6'4" that is looking at them.
My MTB partner is same height and 250-265lbs (seasonal).

After a bunch of research, I got him onto this. He had a budget, wanted SRAM Apex, and wanted the ability to run larger tires for gravel roads. It's close in TT length, but, much shorter HT length than the KHS. I setup his bike with a 125 degree stem.

Personally, I think the KHS is a bit expensive. The absolute max tire size is going to be ~28mm (depending on brake caliper clearance, maybe 30mm), which means 120psi and a harsh ride (steel will take off some of the edge). Big guys need larger tire sizes (more volume), to support their weight. The component spec of that bike is nothing special to warrant the price [other than the 200mm crankset and unusual geometry (extra-tall HT)]. XL MTBs don't have extra-long cranksets, so IDK how important that really is for the average rider. My friend has never commented on the feeling of needing anything longer than 175mm. It appears Zinn's site no longer exists, but, it had quite a bit of commentary regarding large bikes.

For that kind of money, I'd look at a Surly Disc Trucker ($1375) or Long Haul Trucker ($1275). They're just a bit shorter in the HT length (Surly steerers come uncut for adding stem spacers), same TT length. They'll easily handle his weight and have the frame strength to resist twist in the larger size. They take tire sizes over 40mm and have complete eyelets. They're steel frame and curved fork, which will ride nice. The Surly Cross-Check would be another to look at.
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:35 AM   #24778
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http://www.rivbike.com/

Kinda pricey (or not depending) but they are great bikes, fit big tires, and the A. Homer Hilson comes in a 71cm frame
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:55 PM   #24779
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thanks all. Will forward info.

He also looked at Trek (madonne) and Specialized (Roubaix) .


zinncycles.com is still up and operational


yeah many many articles on crank arm length.

thanks again.
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:17 PM   #24780
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zinncycles.com is still up and operational
I double-checked and the link I was picking on wasn't to his homepage, but, a product page. Doh!
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