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Old 09-25-2012, 06:11 AM   #25231
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Thanks for the kind words and encouragement.
You need to get hooked up with Mr Head. He'll learn ya the right way to ride.

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Old 09-25-2012, 07:13 AM   #25232
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I may not be riding the moto much but the spirt of ADVrider is strong in me. Between brevets, riding the Great Divide and soon to be Alaska, the feeling I get on the bike is the same I get riding with you guys. Thanks for everything.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:19 AM   #25233
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ahhh, that makes perfect sense.

ok, I'll get me a nice skinny black 5mm when i'm done with trying out fits. 10mm sticking up is kinda fugly. also rescued the (almost) straight bars off my old bentup bike, and plan to measure to verify they will fit the brifters and grips....

the new bike has these "ergo" grips that are like flat on top, something like these...



haven't decided yet if I like them or not. if not, its back to Ourys
I've been using those for months. It's the only way I can ride my bike for over an hour without the discomfort caused by conventional round grips. I frankly don't understand how anyone can stand round grips.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:36 AM   #25234
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I've been using those for months. It's the only way I can ride my bike for over an hour without the discomfort caused by conventional round grips. I frankly don't understand how anyone can stand round grips.
I have found that my discomfort come from the bar bend, not the grips....
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:57 PM   #25235
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I liked this quote I came across today.

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"To be a cyclist is to be a student of pain....at cycling's core lies pain, hard and bitter as the pit inside a juicy peach. It doesn't matter if you're sprinting for an Olympic medal, a town sign, a trailhead, or the rest stop with the homemade brownies. If you never confront pain, you're missing the essence of the sport. Without pain, there's no adversity. Without adversity, no challenge. Without challenge, no improvement. No improvement, no sense of accomplishment and no deep-down joy. Might as well be playing Tiddly-Winks." -- Scott Martin
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:16 PM   #25236
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I liked this quote I came across today.
I think it captures why so many of my 'group of friends' rides turn into solo rides with us all strung out between turns or stops until we regroup.

We're all at wildly different levels of fitness so we all ride until we board our own private pain-train and then watch the remaining group walk away.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:28 PM   #25237
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Thanks for the kind words and encouragement.

So, in a fit of semi boredom, I decided to do my 30 mile route again (it's been weekly so far, but it's only been five days since the coyotes.) I see quite a few of you guys ride a lot more than once a week. Even decided to do it backwards, and while i'd try to achieve my target 15mph/ avg, it'd be more of an easy spin. We mashers don't really know what that is but there's no harm in trying. And variety would alleviate boredom.

As I said before, my normal route has a pretty long gradual uphill about a quarter of the way in, and the last bit is a slight downhill. Well, turns out the first quarter is also downhill, as I was to discover to my chagrin. Going backwards meant I started with a long gradual uphill, with one steep incline that had me in the second lowest gear ratio and unable to capitalise on the decline after that (this is 3 miles into my ride mind you) and I had to keep shifting around in the seat coz my boys were not comfortable no matter what I did.

Going backwards opened my eyes to the fact that there's two uphill quarters, and one downhill half. Feast or famine then. I wasn't as proficient at changing gears to maintain a spin and found myself mashing several times. Time was a respectable 2:19 for 30.5 miles. 13.1 mph average, a regression from my previous time, but considering I nearly burnt myself out in the first 5 miles and was fighting gravity the entire last quarter i'm happy with it.

No coyotes. But ghetto bird was overhead when I left, and the next block over was cordoned off when I got back.

I think i'll stick to my normal route, which allows me to bump up the average right at the beginning before the long uphill slog. But at least it rewards me with a downhill last section to make up time.
Nice work. If you start by heading uphill, go easy until you're warmed up. Trying to push the pace right off the start is a great way to burn out long before the end of the ride.

Regarding the discomfort, do you have decent shorts? Do you use anything like Chamois Butt'r?

You're in the SFV, right? I ride from Sherman Oaks to Griffith Park and back a couple weekends each month. Usually depart around 7:30-8am. Slow and easy 25mi bike path cruises to hilly 45mi routes via Mulholland, depending on my mood. Occasionally I join up with some friends in Tarzana and loop around Chatsworth Lake as well. That group tends to be more about rest stops at Starbucks than hauling ass, though.

Shoot me a PM if you'd like to join up sometime.
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:50 PM   #25238
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To be a cyclist is to be a student of pain....at cycling's core lies pain, hard and bitter as the pit inside a juicy peach. It doesn't matter if you're sprinting for an Olympic medal, a town sign, a trailhead, or the rest stop with the homemade brownies. If you never confront pain, you're missing the essence of the sport. Without pain, there's no adversity. Without adversity, no challenge. Without challenge, no improvement. No improvement, no sense of accomplishment and no deep-down joy. Might as well be playing Tiddly-Winks." -- Scott Martin
At first I wanted to disagree with this, but as i thought a little more i came to realize how true it is. My favorite rides have been where you feel like leaving the bike on the side of the road and walking home. Thinking about how asinine it is to be hitting max heart rate going up a gravel hill with a temp of 103 out, and you have been out of water for 30 min..... only to do it again 3 days later. Is cycling some sort of mental condition?
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:32 PM   #25239
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Yep! We did it Gerry! I say we because there is no way, NO WAY, I could've done this alone. In the end every single vote counted and I really appreciate everyone that took the time to vote. There was only a difference of 5 votes! That's insane!

I may not be riding the moto much but the spirt of ADVrider is strong in me. Between brevets, riding the Great Divide and soon to be Alaska, the feeling I get on the bike is the same I get riding with you guys. Thanks for everything.

Errin
Outstanding my friend! That's just great news for you. I hope you enjoy your rides and....tailwinds to you!
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:40 PM   #25240
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I liked this quote I came across today.

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"To be a cyclist is to be a student of pain....at cycling's core lies pain, hard and bitter as the pit inside a juicy peach. It doesn't matter if you're sprinting for an Olympic medal, a town sign, a trailhead, or the rest stop with the homemade brownies. If you never confront pain, you're missing the essence of the sport. Without pain, there's no adversity. Without adversity, no challenge. Without challenge, no improvement. No improvement, no sense of accomplishment and no deep-down joy. Might as well be playing Tiddly-Winks." -- Scott Martin
On my last event, there were so many times I wanted to quit. The first day was trying to say the least and the second day wasn't a whole lot more enjoyable.

The third day, something changed. I walked outside to meet my buddies and despite 4.5 hours in the previous 28 or so hours, I was pumped. I literally yelled at my buddy, "You ready to get this done?" When he responded, "I guess so", I knew he was done and wouldn't finish the day.

When we hit that first hill out of Atwood, I quickly dropped him. Not out of meanness but out of necessity. I knew that if I didn't get to Anton by 6 pm that evening, I wouldn't make it.

As it turns out, I missed the store being open by about half an hour but there was support for other riders who provided lots of food for folks like me.

My buddy arrived some six hour later in Anton and DNF'd.

I know the feeling of exhilaration and exhaustion. It's now a friend that I hope to visit again soon.
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:36 PM   #25241
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Nice work. If you start by heading uphill, go easy until you're warmed up. Trying to push the pace right off the start is a great way to burn out long before the end of the ride.

Regarding the discomfort, do you have decent shorts? Do you use anything like Chamois Butt'r?

You're in the SFV, right? I ride from Sherman Oaks to Griffith Park and back a couple weekends each month. Usually depart around 7:30-8am. Slow and easy 25mi bike path cruises to hilly 45mi routes via Mulholland, depending on my mood. Occasionally I join up with some friends in Tarzana and loop around Chatsworth Lake as well. That group tends to be more about rest stops at Starbucks than hauling ass, though.

Shoot me a PM if you'd like to join up sometime.
I reckon I have good shorts. Bike store brand 8 panel. About $60 each I think. No butt'r, although I guess that's something I should look into.

This was just a weird ride coz normally I am comfortable.

Yeah, i'm in the middle of the valley pretty much. I don't know that i'm at the point where I can go on group rides. I went on one or two with the SFV bike club and got an initiation in hell. Kinda soured me on group rides. Apparently, the beginner ride I went on (from CSUN south into the hills of Tarzana/ Encino) was "mis labelled." It sucked dirty sweaty donkey balls. That's a coffee shop group as well.

I ride at night right now because it's so hot during the day. I'm only off work for the next two weeks (actually, we'll see what the doc says tomorrow) but there are rugby games on Saturday mornings that I can't miss.

I'll def hit you up when I get fitter and have a Sat off.

Good looking mate...

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Old 09-25-2012, 10:34 PM   #25242
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I reckon I have good shorts. Bike store brand 8 panel. About $60 each I think. No butt'r, although I guess that's something I should look into.

This was just a weird ride coz normally I am comfortable.

Yeah, i'm in the middle of the valley pretty much. I don't know that i'm at the point where I can go on group rides. I went on one or two with the SFV bike club and got an initiation in hell. Kinda soured me on group rides. Apparently, the beginner ride I went on (from CSUN south into the hills of Tarzana/ Encino) was "mis labelled." It sucked dirty sweaty donkey balls. That's a coffee shop group as well.

I ride at night right now because it's so hot during the day. I'm only off work for the next two weeks (actually, we'll see what the doc says tomorrow) but there are rugby games on Saturday mornings that I can't miss.

I'll def hit you up when I get fitter and have a Sat off.

Good looking mate...

Cheers.
Good onya with the shorts and definitely check out a chamois lube. Lots of brands and even a few recipes to make it on the Internet. (I think it's basically hand lotion, mineral oil and some plant oils.) Find one that keeps the kibbles'n'bits happy and you'll ride happier. I've noticed that if I wear my cheaper 'commuter' gear, I need to use lube even for shorter rides, but if I wear decent 'long ride' gear, it's not necessary until I plan on fairly serious miles.

Just so we're clear, I'm not talking 'coffee shop/club ride" that leaves from a bike shop. This really is a group of 3-8 (35+ year-old) friends who show up at a buddy's house and ride. Very casual, no crazy pacelines or anything. And if my wife comes along, she whips us into a proper 14-15mph pace so she can talk to her friends without breathing too heavily.

On the other side of that coin, if you're a dick, you're not invited again. We stop at stopsigns/red lights (unless there's absolutely NO ONE around), we pick up stragglers before the next turn and we stuff our faces with burgers and beer after the ride.

My 63 y.o. father-in-law rides with us. How bad can it be?
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:19 AM   #25243
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Good onya with the shorts and definitely check out a chamois lube. Lots of brands and even a few recipes to make it on the Internet. (I think it's basically hand lotion, mineral oil and some plant oils.) Find one that keeps the kibbles'n'bits happy and you'll ride happier. I've noticed that if I wear my cheaper 'commuter' gear, I need to use lube even for shorter rides, but if I wear decent 'long ride' gear, it's not necessary until I plan on fairly serious miles.

Just so we're clear, I'm not talking 'coffee shop/club ride" that leaves from a bike shop. This really is a group of 3-8 (35+ year-old) friends who show up at a buddy's house and ride. Very casual, no crazy pacelines or anything. And if my wife comes along, she whips us into a proper 14-15mph pace so she can talk to her friends without breathing too heavily.

On the other side of that coin, if you're a dick, you're not invited again. We stop at stopsigns/red lights (unless there's absolutely NO ONE around), we pick up stragglers before the next turn and we stuff our faces with burgers and beer after the ride.

My 63 y.o. father-in-law rides with us. How bad can it be?
Sounds like good people. My kinda people.

I definitely observe street signs. It's part of the responsibility of being a cyclist. And if you want to be accorded the same respect and rights as a car, you should follow the rules they observe.

Or course I ride at 1am though. Very little traffic in the middle of the week at that time. Check for safety, and go. Thank God for the bike path and the new extension on Roscoe. That's half my route.

Only caveat; I don't adhere to The Rules. Mountain bike helmet. Mountain bike shoes. I never ride without a camelbak. And I need to harden the fuk up.

If the doc gives me more time off i'll hit you up. Otherwise this is my 2nd last Sat of free(read= bore)dom. And i'll be watching the footy in the morning.
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Old 09-26-2012, 05:17 AM   #25244
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Yep! We did it Gerry! I say we because there is no way, NO WAY, I could've done this alone. In the end every single vote counted and I really appreciate everyone that took the time to vote. There was only a difference of 5 votes! That's insane!

I may not be riding the moto much but the spirt of ADVrider is strong in me. Between brevets, riding the Great Divide and soon to be Alaska, the feeling I get on the bike is the same I get riding with you guys. Thanks for everything.

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Excellent news. Glad we could help you out.
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Old 09-26-2012, 06:12 AM   #25245
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Went mtn biking on Quantico Marine Base yesterday. Buddy of mine's a Marine (duh) and works right next to their trail system. Bout an hour's ride. The two I was with wanted to go quickly but my legs didn't wanna.

...till about 2/3 of the way thru the ride when they woke up.

Marine buddy tipped over 2x on different hills. Stopped and flopped on his side (1) and then stopped and flopped on his back in an uphill hairpin (2)

I certainly wasn't stopping in the middle of a hairpin to help him up! He got into the mess, he can get out of it. I did ask him if he was OK on the way by. You just never know... He woulda scored higher on the 'crash scale' if he'da come up with something witty to say on the way down. As it was he didn't say anything so his scores were low.

I'm racing Sunday. Applecross. Cross practice tonite with the Haymarket shop, then a couple of VERY easy days. We'll see how the weekend goes.

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