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Old 10-08-2012, 03:03 PM   #25411
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He speaks the truth...

I race a Cannondale CAAD9. It is deceptively light, fast, responsive and regularly still receives compliments and praise from other racers with full hi-mod carbon rides that cost thousands more. In the end, the bike is only as good as the rider piloting it. Anyone with money can walk into a bike shop and plunk down egregious amounts for the latest technology in cycling. Despite that fact and their pompous belief... the purchase of aforementioned bicycle does NOT make them a better rider or carry weight with any genuine riders.
I have a tendency to dismiss many people on the truly high $ rides. They usually have less time to ride than the guys on the less expensive bikes that you can tell get ridden.

While its true you can buy speed (helmets, wheels, frames in that order) the bike doesn't pedal itself.

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Old 10-09-2012, 04:57 AM   #25412
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I have a tendency to dismiss many people on the truly high $ rides.
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:04 AM   #25413
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Unless that Venge with Red* on it was given to you, you've got more money than time to ride.

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Insert: Pinarello, Kuota, et al here.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:04 AM   #25414
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He speaks the truth...

I race a Cannondale CAAD9. It is deceptively light, fast, responsive and regularly still receives compliments and praise from other racers with full hi-mod carbon rides that cost thousands more. In the end, the bike is only as good as the rider piloting it. Anyone with money can walk into a bike shop and plunk down egregious amounts for the latest technology in cycling. Despite that fact and their pompous belief... the purchase of aforementioned bicycle does NOT make them a better rider or carry weight with any genuine riders.
The local, TT-course record-holder rides an older, somewhat aero, aluminum framed TT bike. It's got an old set of Zipp tubulars (his disc is way before the Sub-9 and aero profiles) on it. Aluminum basebar and aerobars. It's probably the most un-aero TT bike out there. Yet, even TJ Tollakson couldn't beat his speed, using the latest, in TT tech. It truly is the rider that makes the difference.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:13 AM   #25415
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The local, TT-course record-holder rides an older, somewhat aero, aluminum framed TT bike. It's got an old set of Zipp tubulars (his disc is way before the Sub-9 and aero profiles) on it. Aluminum basebar and aerobars. It's probably the most un-aero TT bike out there. Yet, even TJ Tollakson couldn't beat his speed, using the latest, in TT tech. It truly is the rider that makes the difference.
I'd like to see what this TT-course record holder can do using the latest TT tech. Then we'd have an apples to apples comparison.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:33 AM   #25416
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I'd like to see what this TT-course record holder can do using the latest TT tech. Then we'd have an apples to apples comparison.
The LBS loaned him a Giant Trinity with a Sub-9 and 1080. But, the wind was simply brutal, that night. He still got within 2mph of his record.
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Old 10-09-2012, 07:43 AM   #25417
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Ernge content: KTM bicycles

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Old 10-09-2012, 08:03 AM   #25418
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Does this mean Katoom is finally bringing their pushbikes Stateside? I was just talking about this with one of the guys I ride with. He has a KTM moto and wears one of their cycling jerseys quite often.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:09 AM   #25419
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Does this mean Katoom is finally bringing their pushbikes Stateside? I was just talking about this with one of the guys I ride with. He has a KTM moto and wears one of their cycling jerseys quite often.
I hope so, but somehow doubt it.

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Old 10-09-2012, 08:23 AM   #25420
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It seems with every sport you get those who want to look the part, and those who are the part.

I've spent a lot of time snowboarding; I usually average 40 days or so a year. It's easy to spot the people who buy new stuff every year to ride 3 days. My take is a lot less cynical than some of the 'locals' up there though; I figure they're spending big bucks supporting the industry which in turn can sponsor bigger riders and push the sport, meaning more people will ride. If you want to go spend $1500 every year on new shit because you can, good on ya.... at least it's not a TV. Same for bikes, motorycles, hang gliders, whatever.

Back to bikes; I'm currently riding my $800 Rockhopper after I blew out my rear hub on my Giant Reign for a second time this year.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:30 AM   #25421
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It seems with every sport you get those who want to look the part, and those who are the part.

I've spent a lot of time snowboarding; I usually average 40 days or so a year. It's easy to spot the people who buy new stuff every year to ride 3 days. My take is a lot less cynical than some of the 'locals' up there though; I figure they're spending big bucks supporting the industry which in turn can sponsor bigger riders and push the sport, meaning more people will ride. If you want to go spend $1500 every year on new shit because you can, good on ya.... at least it's not a TV. Same for bikes, motorycles, hang gliders, whatever.

Back to bikes; I'm currently riding my $800 Rockhopper after I blew out my rear hub on my Giant Reign for a second time this year.
Having said I dismiss the people on the fancy stuff doesn't mean I don't want em to buy it. After all, I'm a cheap/broke SOB and they're going to go chasing after the newest and bestest and I can buy their 'leftovers' for half or less of new.

It took YEARS for me to upgrade to 10sp for this reason. (and years to upgrade from 7 to 8 and then again from 8 to 9...)

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Old 10-09-2012, 08:43 AM   #25422
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:54 AM   #25423
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and people look at me crazy for jumping curbs, running single track, and going down 3 steps on a cross bike

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Old 10-09-2012, 10:53 AM   #25424
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and people look at me crazy for jumping curbs, running single track, and going down 3 steps on a cross bike

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Old 10-09-2012, 11:14 AM   #25425
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so I've got a flatbar road bike (hybrid) that has 3x8 trigger shifting, and I'm thinking of converting it to a 2x9 or 2x10... i've been doing Shimano stuff for awhile, but I'm thinking maybe I should give Sram a try... I see on their website a Via GT and Via Centro gruppo of nearly exactly what I want, targetting city and trekking bikes, but I don't see those available online anywheres.
http://www.sram.com/sram/urban/products/via-gt

Whats the budget Sram road group I should use? A mix of Apex and S-series? I'm gonna need cranks (50-34 or 48-32 or so), shifters, cassette and derailleurs for this... and probably new wheels too (I assume I can't put a 9 or 10 speed cassette on a 8 speed freehub, eh? anyways, I eventually want to get nicer rims). The mountain groups all seem to have tiny front sprockets...
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