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Old 03-05-2013, 06:09 AM   #27541
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:11 AM   #27542
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How many of you are using a wheel speed sensor with the GPS? If those aren't calibrated properly, you're going to get faulty readings.
Not me, but a riding buddy does and we're pretty well spot on.

The only difference seems to be that his speed doesn't lag quite as much as mine.

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Old 03-05-2013, 06:38 AM   #27543
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I'm pondering the ubiquitous cyclocross-ish dirt bike combined with some touring features. I know there's a pretty significant hybridization of those two styles, so I'm wondering what y'all would think. I'm thinking along the lines of a Cross Check or a Vaya.
Both GREAT bikes, but, also very different. Be sure too ride them before you decide.

The Vaya is my choice, it is more laid back compared to the CC. Especially when loaded.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:48 AM   #27544
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I'm pondering the ubiquitous cyclocross-ish dirt bike combined with some touring features. I know there's a pretty significant hybridization of those two styles, so I'm wondering what y'all would think. I'm thinking along the lines of a Cross Check or a Vaya.
That's why I ride a '09 Specialized Tricross Comp. It can run 29er MTB tires, has eyelets for touring racks and fenders, and three bottle mounts. There are quite a few people who've toured on them, while still having a great bike, unladen. Pure touring bikes aren't quite as light and sporty.

Others to consider: Jamis Bosanova, Kona Rove, Raleigh Roper, Soma Double Cross.

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Because speed calculations based solely on satellite transmissions are notoriously inaccurate. Even under the most ideal circumstances in which the GPS picks up a minimum of eight satellites, it's still only accurate to within 10 meters (32 feet). If you're riding a trail comprised of tight turns that fall within that margin of error, you're going to get false readings because the GPS will at times interpret those turns as straight segments. A wheel speed sensor can't be fooled that way: it will always measure the actual distance traveled.
That's what I've found, too.
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Old 03-05-2013, 06:51 AM   #27545
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Both GREAT bikes, but, also very different. Be sure too ride them before you decide.

The Vaya is my choice, it is more laid back compared to the CC. Especially when loaded.
Thanks for that!

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That's why I ride a '09 Specialized Tricross Comp. It can run 29er MTB tires, has eyelets for touring racks and fenders, and three bottle mounts. There are quite a few people who've toured on them, while still having a great bike, unladen. Pure touring bikes aren't quite as light and sporty.

Others to consider: Jamis Bosanova, Kona Rove, Raleigh Roper, Soma Double Cross.
The Soma had made it onto my list, but the others are ones I will look up. And I had just picked up a 2013 Specialized catalog from an LBS the other day - I saw all the tricross ones on there but hadn't considered that one carefully. I didn't know you could slap 29ers on it. And I love my Sirrus, so I'm gonna give the Tricross a hard look.

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Old 03-05-2013, 07:08 AM   #27546
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Both GREAT bikes, but, also very different. Be sure too ride them before you decide.

The Vaya is my choice, it is more laid back compared to the CC. Especially when loaded.
This. The CC is a little more road bikey, the Vaya a little more mountain bikey. Both are solid, pick the one that feels best.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:10 AM   #27547
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:18 AM   #27548
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This. The CC is a little more road bikey, the Vaya a little more mountain bikey. Both are solid, pick the one that feels best.
Wanting something a little more road bikey (and therefore, familiar) is why I was leaning towards the CC. Was thinking of getting a frame & building it up myself, since the frame gets great reviews but people say the components are crap.
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:20 AM   #27549
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http://www.seattlebikeblog.com/2013/...ould-be-taxed/

State lawmaker defends bike tax, says bicycling is not good for the environment

“You would be giving off more CO2 if you are riding a bike than driving in a car,” he said. However, he said he had not “done any analysis” of the difference in CO2 from a person on a bike compared to the engine of a car (others have).

“You can’t just say that there’s no pollution as a result of riding a bicycle.”
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Old 03-05-2013, 07:47 AM   #27550
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http://www.seattlebikeblog.com/2013/...ould-be-taxed/

State lawmaker defends bike tax, says bicycling is not good for the environment

“You would be giving off more CO2 if you are riding a bike than driving in a car,” he said. However, he said he had not “done any analysis” of the difference in CO2 from a person on a bike compared to the engine of a car (others have).

“You can’t just say that there’s no pollution as a result of riding a bicycle.”
Quick!! Act now!! Ban all heart rates over 95 and respiratory rates over 8!! Our planet can not tolerate the abuse our bodies are causing!! Subsections to the law include banning prey from running from predators and all animals weighing in excess of 5 tons are to be banned.










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Old 03-05-2013, 07:56 AM   #27551
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And I had just picked up a 2013 Specialized catalog from an LBS the other day - I saw all the tricross ones on there but hadn't considered that one carefully. I didn't know you could slap 29ers on it. And I love my Sirrus, so I'm gonna give the Tricross a hard look.
I'm not totally sure if all the new models will take a 29er. I know the 2010, and earlier, will. I have a Comp and my GF has the Expert. They, both, have swoopy stays and forks that'll clear them, as does the S-Works. Below is a pic of a Sport (straight seatstays) who is running just a 29er front.



I'd do some digging around eBay and Craigslist, if you choose to go with a Tricross. I gave $1280 ($2400 MSRP) and $1250 ($2800 MSRP) for each of ours, on eBay. Mine was new and hers had ~5 rides on it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 08:03 AM   #27552
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:07 AM   #27553
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Wanting something a little more road bikey (and therefore, familiar) is why I was leaning towards the CC. Was thinking of getting a frame & building it up myself, since the frame gets great reviews but people say the components are crap.
One of the coolest things about the CC is how versatile it is. I have seen them built up as flat bar city bikes all the way to full on touring and everything in between. They are really fun bikes.
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Old 03-05-2013, 09:54 AM   #27554
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My guess is you don't have a cadence sensor on the car or the motorcycle.

I use a 705 and 305 and have wheel speed sensors on most of my bikes.
I haven't been able to figure out how to make it work on the Moonlander.

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HA! I specifically got a Garmin bike'puter for my Moonlander because the wheel size changes so much based on pressure, and the soft surfaces I tend to take it on. I wouldn't mind having cadence - and the sensor would work for that, just not for both cadence and wheel magnet due to the geometry of the offset wheel/wide BB and how the sensor is built. Mount it on the left side chainstay, there are no spokes anywhere nearby. I did see a picture of one mounted under the right chainstay - that might work.

As a note, when comparing distances/average speeds within a group of mtb'rs with normal 'puters, there was always a spread among the readings. Kinda like the "man with two watches".
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Well, not entirely what he said, but weirdness abounds in the house of cards.
I would agree that taxing cyclist to ride would be similar to taxing drivers to drive to partially support roads and bike lanes. But, and this I think is a big one, if that were to be attempted, the very first thing to pop up would be bike lanes/paths. Cars fuel tax goes partially to fund roads that cars use. Bikes could maybe argue that the tax on them should go specifically to bike lanes and paths. Tough to get that to work. I recall back in the 809's that there was a statistic that there are something like 4 times as many bikes as cars so this could be a real tax boon for some communities, and burden for some bike-hoarding cyclists.

Not sure how you would figure out how much a specific bike is ridden, something that is pretty elemental with fuel taxation.
I know Mandate State defined GPS/cyclometers and HR monitors and power meters..

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http://www.seattlebikeblog.com/2013/...ould-be-taxed/

State lawmaker defends bike tax, says bicycling is not good for the environment

“You would be giving off more CO2 if you are riding a bike than driving in a car,” he said. However, he said he had not “done any analysis” of the difference in CO2 from a person on a bike compared to the engine of a car (others have).

“You can’t just say that there’s no pollution as a result of riding a bicycle.”
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