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Old 03-14-2013, 01:57 PM   #27721
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Here's an easy one for you riders with disc brakes. Are they a quantum leap forward in terms of effectiveness when compared to conventional caliper brakes. So good, in fact, that stoppies can be achieved??

Or not....
I made the switch from tektro v brakes... My decision to switch came from necessity...if you ride the same rims too long, they wear out, and on a steep decent all of a sudden i completely lost my front brakes because there wasnt enough material to disperse the heat created...melted the pads, sh** my pants, and thankfully didnt hit anything hard...

And i am very happy with my new brakes, went with avid BB5 cable brakes, easily 2x the stopping power over the v brakes, and better modulation...

As for stoppies, hehehe i can pedal to 15mph, get my weight as far over the rear wheel as i possibly can (whole body behind the seat) grab a handful and pick the rear end up as far as i dare....i found out if you arent careful you can take it too far....LOL thats what i get for abusively trying to bed the pads when they were new....LOL
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Old 03-14-2013, 01:59 PM   #27722
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Yes, and yes. Although, on the trail my front will lock and slide before I do a stoppie. Gummee! is right, they stop the same all the time wet or dry. They tend to not get as muddy either, and when they do get some mud on them they self clean much better than the old v-style brakes. The bike I have now is the first I have had with disks, and I will not be going back.

Note: I only ride MTB bikes. No good cross trails here (well, one trail a cross bike would probably work fairly well), and I am terrified of riding on the roads.
You need better tires suited for the terrain if ya cant stoppie.....LOL
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:11 PM   #27723
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Here's an easy one for you riders with disc brakes. Are they a quantum leap forward in terms of effectiveness when compared to conventional caliper brakes. So good, in fact, that stoppies can be achieved??

Or not....
Brakes are as good as what they are tuned for. For trials (not trails), we use disk, magura hydraulics, and V. They all work well enough to stand you on one end or the other, the disks however, you have modulation. Canti's work great when set up properly for touring..... Maybe others. My bb7's work great on my wife's ogre and my Fargo. My disks are AWESOME on my MTB bike. I am not fond of v-brakes due to the skinny pads, they wear out to fast in mud.


I think that about covers it. If it works for what it is intended, it is still around.
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Old 03-14-2013, 02:47 PM   #27724
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Most people riding motorcycles ride them like they drive SUV's, i.e. with their heads planted in their butts.
And they think of bicycles and motorcycles as toys. Since they don't ever ride a motorcycle when it is anything other than convenient for them and their activities.
These are also the guys most likely to tell you they would ride, if their wife would allow them...
I gave up attempting to educate either the cages or the motorcyclists or for that matter the asshat cyclists who piss me off.
Given a choice I'd ride my bicycles and never drive or ride a motorcycle again.

But, my wife won't let me.

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The 'bicycles on the road' thread got bumped a few days back up in 'the perfect line.'

Not a few days later comes a post from someone about losing his temper after getting harassed by a car on his MC. I don't get why there's this big disconnect between the 2 forms of transportation that rely on 2 wheels. 'Y'all' get all aggro when someone does that shit to you on a MC, but yet, you turn around and do it to bicyclists?!



People are either hypocritical or just plain stupid. I haven't figured out which yet.

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Old 03-14-2013, 02:49 PM   #27725
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Very nice. I have a brother in Berkeley and a sister who just moved from Emeryville to Concord. I had a chance to do part of that route with my brother a few years ago.
Thanks! Out to the peninsula this Saturday for 60/6500. Oh, the joys.
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Old 03-14-2013, 03:39 PM   #27726
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Me too. S'why I'm going to wait for a Chinese knockoff.

@Moodfart: that -1 is perfect. Rival is a good group. 2 of my 3 bikes have a mix of that and everything else SRAM makes.

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The 'bicycles on the road' thread got bumped a few days back up in 'the perfect line.'

Not a few days later comes a post from someone about losing his temper after getting harassed by a car on his MC. I don't get why there's this big disconnect between the 2 forms of transportation that rely on 2 wheels. 'Y'all' get all aggro when someone does that shit to you on a MC, but yet, you turn around and do it to bicyclists?!



People are either hypocritical or just plain stupid. I haven't figured out which yet.

M
+1 on the SRAM stuff. I've a mix of Apex/Rival on the 'cross bike and X0/X9 on the MTB. Shifts nice, durable and doesn't require a lot of adjustment.

Re: hypocrisy and stupidity. Both, usually simultaneously.
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Old 03-14-2013, 04:40 PM   #27727
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Most people riding motorcycles ride them like they drive SUV's, i.e. with their heads planted in their butts.
And they think of bicycles and motorcycles as toys. Since they don't ever ride a motorcycle when it is anything other than convenient for them and their activities.
These are also the guys most likely to tell you they would ride, if their wife would allow them...
I gave up attempting to educate either the cages or the motorcyclists or for that matter the asshat cyclists who piss me off.
Given a choice I'd ride my bicycles and never drive or ride a motorcycle again.

But, my wife won't let me.
yabbutt... I'm talking about posters HERE! Up in the Perfect Line. You'd think they'd know better.

The ones in JM too when that thread surfaces for breath every now and again.

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Old 03-14-2013, 05:39 PM   #27728
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So...got my clipless setup on my bikes today, never ridden clipless before, and was told get used to falling while learning...LOL everyone was right...i was fine till i tried to get technical, went 5 miles of mounting and dismounting no issue...decided to hop over a railroad tie that was used to block off a parking lot...and landed on my side with a bike stuck to me....LOL only injury is a bit of a bruise from landing on my keys in my pocket.

I can say however, you can build a good bit more speed with the clipless than the old school toe clips...both on my mtb and my roadie...hopefully i will be able to learn panic dismounts rather quickly....it sucks trying to clip out while on your back...LOL
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Old 03-14-2013, 06:50 PM   #27729
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I'm lucky enough not to have fallen over with my clipless pedals yet but I've only ridden with them a couple times for short distances. I bet my time will come soon enough!
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:09 PM   #27730
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I'm lucky enough not to have fallen over with my clipless pedals yet but I've only ridden with them a couple times for short distances. I bet my time will come soon enough!
Oh yes, it will... even after 20 years of clipping in. Rolled up to the car after finishing a nice ride on my 39th birthday and fell over in the parking lot. Couldn't unclip due to losing a screw in the cleat, which meant the other screw held it firmly in the pedal.
That day I learned another of yet another application for blue Loctite.
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Old 03-14-2013, 07:23 PM   #27731
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So...got my clipless setup on my bikes today, never ridden clipless before, and was told get used to falling while learning...LOL everyone was right...i was fine till i tried to get technical, went 5 miles of mounting and dismounting no issue...decided to hop over a railroad tie that was used to block off a parking lot...and landed on my side with a bike stuck to me....LOL only injury is a bit of a bruise from landing on my keys in my pocket.

I can say however, you can build a good bit more speed with the clipless than the old school toe clips...both on my mtb and my roadie...hopefully i will be able to learn panic dismounts rather quickly....it sucks trying to clip out while on your back...LOL

It'll come naturally before you know it. That's not to say you won't have a brain fart now and then. Blue Loctite good stuff on cleats
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Old 03-14-2013, 08:16 PM   #27732
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It'll come naturally before you know it. That's not to say you won't have a brain fart now and then. Blue Loctite good stuff on cleats
Haha im sure it will, just a bit different than i am used ti with the toe clips...gitta work on the twist out instead of straight back like my toe clips...but i can already tell theres a lot more power to be had with clipless...LOL
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Old 03-14-2013, 08:25 PM   #27733
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Thanks! Out to the peninsula this Saturday for 60/6500. Oh, the joys.
Be safe bud....
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Old 03-15-2013, 05:24 AM   #27734
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Saw this pic and it reinforced 'where MCs come from.'

Lots of in this pic.

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Old 03-15-2013, 06:32 AM   #27735
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I can say however, you can build a good bit more speed with the clipless than the old school toe clips...both on my mtb and my roadie...hopefully i will be able to learn panic dismounts rather quickly....it sucks trying to clip out while on your back...LOL
Some dismounts happen so quickly that no amount of training will allow you to unclip in time. I've seen very experienced racers being flung down the road with their bikes still attached to them, and I've also seen it happen on the trails.
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