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Old 04-29-2013, 08:21 AM   #28306
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:32 AM   #28307
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one of these things is not like the others...

IOW that Tarmac is going to be 'racier' geometry-wise than the others. I'm a fan of Roubaix-es. Magic carpet ride that's still stiff enough to race on.

Ride em. See which one YOU like. Best way to tell.

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What he said. The Roubaix is super comfortable. I actually really liked the Cannondale Super Six I rode as well, if you can find one of those in your budget.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:07 AM   #28308
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I think someone needs to find another hobby instead of motorcycling...


I did my first century today. I'm pretty happy with it, 15mph moving average. The weather's been so crappy this spring I only had less than 200 road miles altogether, so I increased my mileage by over 50%. I was pretty careful about eating and drinking and we made five supported rest stops with snacks and bevereages. I didn't have any problems with cramps , but there was a 15mph wind out of the south that KICKED my ass, I felt really good on the hills early on, but the wind just beat me down . The last 29 mile loop sucked, and on paper it should have been the easiest, but my ass was dragging. Anyway, I've finally got a century under my belt.

Nice job!
Looks like they took you guys on a nice route.
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Old 04-29-2013, 09:52 AM   #28309
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one of these things is not like the others...

IOW that Tarmac is going to be 'racier' geometry-wise than the others. I'm a fan of Roubaix-es. Magic carpet ride that's still stiff enough to race on.

Ride em. See which one YOU like. Best way to tell.

M

I put the tarmac in for consideration because it is close and relatively cheap and only a year old.

Thanks for the responses all. I will continue my search and attempt to ride numerous models prior to plunking down $$.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:04 AM   #28310
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Itching to get myself a carbon framed bicycle. Not wanting to spend over $1000 so it will be used. I have found the following in or near my price range locally.

2010 Cannondale Synapse 4
2007 Specialized Roubaix comp
2008 Specialized Roubaix
2012 Specialized Tarmac mid compact Apex


Not in a huge hurry. Anyone have experience with the above? Or know of a reason to run away from them ?
thanks in advance
I bought a left over Synapse carbon rival this year and it's the bike I rode my century on yesterday. I can't really complain about it at all. I wanted a more upright position and I got it. I don't think the ride quality was significantly different than the r1000 I was riding previously, but I think Cannondale has their stuff together when talking aluminum. I prefer the SRAM group over Shimano, though.

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Nice job!
Looks like they took you guys on a nice route.
Thanks! (and to everyone else too)

The route was nice. The Scandia and Afton loops were really scenic, but I didn't care for the loops. Or, more specifically, I didn't care for the fact that to do the whole route I needed to loop back past the starting point and then finish on a stretch (slightly hilly) that I'd already ridden once. It was the first time I've ridden it, but I've heard the previous routes weren't as nice, with a lot of city streets, etc...
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:06 AM   #28311
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2x1 drivetrain?

Just started with the singlespeeding last fall and really like it, but I got to wondering. . . . lots of 1x8 drivetrains, etc around. anyone ever seen 2 or 3 rings in front with a single cog and a chain tensioner?
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:44 AM   #28312
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I'm training toward a long ride in May, and have come to feel cramped on my moustache bars after 40 miles. After tossing around going to more upright bars (like Albatross), even flipped my M-bars up (impossible to get good brake positions), it hit me: I had a pair of 46 cm drop bars (Nitto Noodles) that came on my fixed-gear.

The wide flats on top give me the hand rest position I wanted, and the braking positions are better, especially on descents. My bar-end shifters fit perfectly, and are still an easy reach.

Funny... I have been happy with the M-bars for over a decade, but the change to drop bars feels good, feels right.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:48 AM   #28313
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I'm training toward a long ride in May, and have come to feel cramped on my moustache bars after 40 miles. After tossing around going to more upright bars (like Albatross), even flipped my M-bars up (impossible to get good brake positions), it hit me: I had a pair of 46 cm drop bars (Nitto Noodles) that came on my fixed-gear.

The wide flats on top give me the hand rest position I wanted, and the braking positions are better, especially on descents. My bar-end shifters fit perfectly, and are still an easy reach.

Funny... I have been happy with the M-bars for over a decade, but the change to drop bars feels good, feels right.
If it feels right, keep doing it. Not my quote but wholly applicable in this case.
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Old 04-29-2013, 11:53 AM   #28314
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Just started with the singlespeeding last fall and really like it, but I got to wondering. . . . lots of 1x8 drivetrains, etc around. anyone ever seen 2 or 3 rings in front with a single cog and a chain tensioner?
I think that would take more chain takeup ability than the typical tensioner meant for single speeds will provide.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:01 PM   #28315
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Just started with the singlespeeding last fall and really like it, but I got to wondering. . . . lots of 1x8 drivetrains, etc around. anyone ever seen 2 or 3 rings in front with a single cog and a chain tensioner?
Ever hear of a DingleSpeed? Double-Single:



http://www.psyclestore.com/pages.php?pageid=14

The trick is to have the same number of teeth total for each combo. If you run a tensioner you could move away from that a bit.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:16 PM   #28316
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Waking up Saturday morning to thunder rolling in the distance was not exactly great motivation to get out of bed for a bike race. In an attempt to stay positive for a good day, we stuffed our faces with oatmeal, pineapple, bananas and almond butter. Loading the bikes in a downpour along with other racers at least gave some solace that we would not be alone in our struggle. All the racers filing out of the hotel tried to maintain a good attitude by making jokes about needing sunscreen later and casting off the layers of arm and leg warmers throughout the day. The rain paused briefly as we entered the event parking and prepped for the race. The parking lot was abuzz with riders desperately trying to choose the correct apparel and warm-up.

I had neglected to grab my cycling rain jacket in my haste to get on the road, so I donned my very well worn-in everyday rain jacket and cinched it down as best I could to mitigate its wind-braking properties. Luckily, wearing the Camelbak kept everything snug to my core for warmth. Ive always been a strong believer in the properties of wool apparel and todays choice was no exception. Smartwool arm warmers, socks and knee covers were the perfect choice as a base under my bibs and jersey. Thats just one less thing my mind has to deal with for the rest of the day. I chose to install my Revelate Tangle frame bag for easy access to my food and chamois cream. My tires are setup as tubeless with Stans sealant so I opted to carry only a single spare tube and one canister of air. Sunglasses with a persimmon lens heightened the contrast of the overcast sky and protected me from the spray of other riders as well as my own front tire. As an afterthought, I believe I will invest in one of those down-tube mud boards for future races that will replicate these conditions. The mud spray was relentless and overwhelmed my glasses on long bombing runs down the gravel and mud mixed descents.

The race organizer thanked everyone for braving the elements and, without any standing on ceremony a shot was fired. We were set free and thrown immediately into a two mile climb along highway 64 that would shatter the entire field. As we crested the climb, the packs were directed into a right turn and given our first taste of single track. My teammate and I had ridden this section the day before and knew what to expect but that was in the dry and everything was now completely saturated. A whole new challenge emerged of not only maintaining my own pace but also keeping a safe distance from the rider directly in front of me. An error in speed or sudden course alteration would quickly send me hurling down an intensely steep mountain side strewn with trees just waiting for their next victim. The single track sections were narrow, off-camber and slick with mud. This was no time to lose focus or take in the scenery. I was steadily taking pulls from my bite valve in hopes that my timing would be sufficient for the contents to last me 36 more miles. Everything seemed to progressing as well as it could, given the circumstances. My body and bike were responding exactly as Id hoped and I was in good position to keep pace with my goal of 10 hours.

As we exited the single track, the pack began splintering rapidly. I would pedal alone for a few miles and swap positions with the same rotation of about five other riders. We five would jockey from front to middle to back and never see all five at once. Wishing each other well and jokingly calling out that wed cross paths again a few miles down the road was just our way of dealing with the elements. The rain would come and go in small bursts. Sometimes falling steadily and completely obscuring the trail while low-lying clouds and fog banks filtered through the trees and valleys of the course. By mile 20 or so I bailed on my glasses as they just would not stay clear enough for me to accurately see and process all the obstacles passing close by. This would bring about a new challenge of trying to see with all the mud spray relentlessly streaming from my front tire. I believe my frame bag caught the biggest brunt of it but my eyes remained squinted and head cocked to one side or the other on every descent. The forestry roads were so badly rutted in many places that led to some alarmingly butt-puckering moments at full boogie down a slick hill of mud and gravel.

My core stayed relatively dry and warm-ish throughout the first half of the day. The bike was steadily accumulating mud and grit along every mile. By mile 30 I desperately wanted to wipe the mud from my eyes and face but my gloves and hands were covered in the same and only made matters worse. As I entered aid station #3 my butt was sorely relieved to pry from the saddle and take a break. I shoved half of a PB&J sandwich in my mouth, refilled the Camelbak with my Tailwind powder and re-mounted for the next leg. My pace and timing were still on track according to my goal but mother nature was playing dirty (literally) and would partner with the infamous Murphy later on
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:26 PM   #28317
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Damn Ridge, that's a badass way to spend a Saturday!
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:34 PM   #28318
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I had staged drop bags for stations #3 at mile 36, #5 at mile 60 and #7 at mile 85. In hindsight, I should have skipped station 5 and doubled up at #3/#6 since they were at the same point on the course. This would have timed my hydration refill much better and prevented me carrying extra weight (powder and food) from station 5 back to 6.

Leaving station 3, I jumbled in with a new set of riders and we exchanged positions as I had with the other five in the first leg of the race. With so many racers on the same course, I was rather surprised at how long I would ride without seeing anyone at all. Occasionally a rider would pass me and I would then pass a few riders myself. Sometimes I would go five or ten miles without seeing another soul, house or sign of civilization. Very eerie at times and humbling to be that alone in the wilderness.

At mile 51, the course turned downhill… and stayed that way for a 12 mile descent. Now, normally I love a good bombing run down steep, fast descents but when you factor in rain, mud, graveled ruts and baby head rocks to that scenario; it makes for a seriously nervous experience. The course dropped from 3500’ in elevation to around 1900’ in just about 12 miles. The entire time I’m descending this, all I can think about is having to climb it on the turn back to start/finish. My arms, legs, core and neck ached and screamed in pain as I finally bottomed out at aid station #4 and entered the outer loop. Just prior to finishing the descent, I started meeting the leaders on their return leg. This was about 4 and a half hours in to the race so I figured I was sitting in a pretty good position by counting the riders coming out of the loop.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:51 PM   #28319
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:28 PM   #28320
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Congrats to 2whl-hoop and Ridge.
Way to go.
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