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Old 04-24-2013, 01:55 AM   #28321
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Just wanted to point out that as regards visibility, a recent study stated that it was the narrow width of bikes/ cyclists/ motorcyclists that caused the cage drivers to "not see" them, not the height. This would render the whole "i'm lower so they can't see me" argument moot. They can't see you period.

The study noted that if, however, there was something unusual (a recumbent (not your everyday sight,) or a motorcyclist standing on the pegs, etc) then the motorists were "forced" to see them as their eyes would literally look directly at the subject and focus, versus just sweep over.
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:46 AM   #28322
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There are far too many random variables in racing which contaminate the results: bad weather, equipment failures, accidents, getting stuck behind slower riders, etc. Strava eliminates all these, making it a much better indicator of performance.
How does Strava eliminate bad weather , equipment failures and accidents ?


Mighty powerful software if it indeed does ...
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:53 AM   #28323
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Just wanted to point out that as regards visibility, a recent study stated that it was the narrow width of bikes/ cyclists/ motorcyclists that caused the cage drivers to "not see" them, not the height. This would render the whole "i'm lower so they can't see me" argument moot. They can't see you period.

The study noted that if, however, there was something unusual (a recumbent (not your everyday sight,) or a motorcyclist standing on the pegs, etc) then the motorists were "forced" to see them as their eyes would literally look directly at the subject and focus, versus just sweep over.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:04 AM   #28324
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How does Strava eliminate bad weather , equipment failures and accidents ?

Mighty powerful software if it indeed does ...
Lemme see if I can explain it to you. When you participate in a race, you are leaving it up to chance what the result will be: all sorts of variables outside your control will determine when (or if) you cross the finish line. Not so with Strava. With Strava, there are no racers in front of you to either slow you down or take you out in a crash. If you suffer an equipment failure, you repair it and start over. If it's raining or extremely windy out, or if you're not feeling well, you pick another day. Only by eliminating all these random variables can you get an accurate picture of your ability and that of your bike. Strava makes that possible; racing doesn't.
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:09 AM   #28325
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Old 04-24-2013, 08:25 AM   #28326
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:21 AM   #28327
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Lemme see if I can explain it to you. When you participate in a race, you are leaving it up to chance what the result will be: all sorts of variables outside your control will determine when (or if) you cross the finish line. Not so with Strava. With Strava, there are no racers in front of you to either slow you down or take you out in a crash. If you suffer an equipment failure, you repair it and start over. If it's raining or extremely windy out, or if you're not feeling well, you pick another day. Only by eliminating all these random variables can you get an accurate picture of your ability and that of your bike. Strava makes that possible; racing doesn't.
and no other racers to beat your ass.
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:39 AM   #28328
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Lemme see if I can explain it to you. When you participate in a race, you are leaving it up to chance what the result will be: all sorts of variables outside your control will determine when (or if) you cross the finish line. Not so with Strava. With Strava, there are no racers in front of you to either slow you down or take you out in a crash. If you suffer an equipment failure, you repair it and start over. If it's raining or extremely windy out, or if you're not feeling well, you pick another day. Only by eliminating all these random variables can you get an accurate picture of your ability and that of your bike. Strava makes that possible; racing doesn't.
Yer killin' me here

Post up your best times, I'm sure I'm not the only one who can't wait to see them
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Old 04-24-2013, 09:50 AM   #28329
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and no other racers to beat your ass.
On the contrary. Any racer has the opportunity to beat my Strava records at any time, just like I have the opportunity to beat theirs at any time.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:05 AM   #28330
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Yer killin' me here

Post up your best times, I'm sure I'm not the only one who can't wait to see them
Best times in what? Mountain biking? Road? Long distance? Sprints? Got any particular segments in mind?

Here's my most recent one: http://app.strava.com/activities/49937868#883983773

Brad Whidden, who I'm tied for 4th place with is a road racer. So are Kyle and Christy Markel. The other three names I don't recognize.
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:07 AM   #28331
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Best times in what? Mountain biking? Road? Long distance? Sprints? Got any particular segments in mind?

Here's my most recent one: http://app.strava.com/activities/49937868#883983773

Brad Whidden, who I'm tied for 4th place with is a road racer. So are Kyle and Christy Markel. The other three names I don't recognize.
In what, dick-swinging
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Old 04-24-2013, 10:38 AM   #28332
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In what, dick-swinging
I see. You challenged me to:

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Post up your best times, I'm sure I'm not the only one who can't wait to see them
And when I did, you accuse me of 'dick-swinging'. Rest assured, you won't be wasting any more of my time in future.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:25 AM   #28333
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I see. You challenged me to:



And when I did, you accuse me of 'dick-swinging'. Rest assured, you won't be wasting any more of my time in future.
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Old 04-24-2013, 12:12 PM   #28334
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I see. You challenged me to:



And when I did, you accuse me of 'dick-swinging'. Rest assured, you won't be wasting any more of my time in future.
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Quoted - just in case someone's on ignore.
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