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Old 05-28-2013, 08:01 AM   #29026
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I think your fitter dood is on the right track, but off some. Pressure on the taint can be the result of a long, low position on the bike. Seat scans from the major manufacturers show just what you're saying in that first bit: more upright = more pressure on the sit bones. Lower and longer = more pressure on your taint.

OR

Taint pressure is a sign of ' your seat's too high.' Pain and numbness are a classic sign that you need to lower your seat.

Putting pressure on the taint ain't good. Yeah, it happens, but its not the best bet for comfort, etc.
What is this 'taint' you're referring to?

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The lower you are, the more you're going to use the muscles in your butt to take up part of the load of pedaling. The more upright, the more you're going to use your thighs and the butt muscles stay quiet.
Absolutely. A book on kinesiology I used during my weight lifting days contains a graph showing how the bulk of the work done by the hip and thigh muscles shifts gradually from the quads to the glutes and hamstrings, the deeper you go in the squat. Oddly enough, sitting on a road bike with your hands in the drops places your legs at their worst possible angle for leverage. It also means that the powerful quadriceps muscles are contributing very little to each pedal stroke. The frame geometry of a conventional bicycle dictates that, but I wonder how much more efficiently the legs could operate on a recumbent whose design maximized the leverage of the rider's legs.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:29 AM   #29027
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Have you tried a womens saddle?
For me, they're too short front-to-rear.

And, that Adamo is a plank. I tried one. My GF rides one on her tri bike, but, has a normal Specialized saddle on her mileage bike.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:40 AM   #29028
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Have you tried a womens saddle?
Yes, but only for a short while. The tech who put together my road bike mistakenly put on a women's saddle. Nobody noticed it until I came back complaining of extreme discomfort. It was horrible. Probably the worst of all the saddles I've tried.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:48 AM   #29029
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For me, they're too short front-to-rear.

And, that Adamo is a plank. I tried one.
I'm not convinced the tiny difference in padding between one seat and another has much to do with comfort, at least for me. The first time I sat on a Corbin saddle, it felt as hard as a rock. I couldn't understand how anyone could claim they were more comfortable than the stock seats -- until I rode a long distance on one. The manager of a local Trek shop has a seat made entirely out of carbon fiber. No padding on it at all. I'd like to try one, just to see whether seat hardness is really a factor in my comfort level. I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't.
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Old 05-28-2013, 08:54 AM   #29030
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What is this 'taint' you're referring to?
'taint this (scrotum) and 'taint that (anus). It would be the perineum.

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I'm not convinced the tiny difference in padding between one seat and another has much to do with comfort, at least for me. The first time I sat on a Corbin saddle, it felt as hard as a rock. I couldn't understand how anyone could claim they were more comfortable than the stock seats -- until I rode a long distance on one. The manager of a local Trek shop has a seat made entirely out of carbon fiber. No padding on it at all. I'd like to try one, just to see whether seat hardness is really a factor in my comfort level. I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't.
The Adamo, for me, is about the shape. It's like a hewn 2X4.
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Old 05-28-2013, 09:01 AM   #29031
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'taint this (scrotum) and 'taint that (anus). It would be the perineum.
That's a relief. For a moment there I was concerned that a part of my anatomy might be missing.

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The Adamo, for me, is about the shape. It's like a hewn 2X4.
The fitter did mention that the only complaints he'd ever had about the Adamo were that it was too wide in front. Probably not enough thigh clearance for some people.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:06 AM   #29032
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'taint this (scrotum) and 'taint that (anus). It would be the perineum.
Or, if you happen to be a devotee of BikesnobNYC, the scranus.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:17 AM   #29033
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Some pics from the USA Cycling mens pro road race yesterday. The course length was 100 miles with several downtown circuits and 3 Lookout Mountain circuits. I drove the cage down to my favorite LBS, unracked the bike, and rode around to different sections of the course for different vantage points.



First lap of the pack cresting the Market Street bridge over the TN River.

The entourage of team vehicles and a ref on a KTM LC4 paint shaker.

Back of the pack heading toward the north shore.



Then my bike shop buddys took pity upon us and forced SRAM VIP wristbands on us and off we went to the SRAM tent for free beer and BBQ. Yum. After filling my Polar water bottle with Pilsener (and swilling a couple more), it was time to return to the course.

Corner of Market street and 12th street.

Scrape, graunch, potato, potato...

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Old 05-28-2013, 11:18 AM   #29034
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'taint this (scrotum) and 'taint that (anus). It would be the perineum.



The Adamo, for me, is about the shape. It's like a hewn 2X4.
Once I had the right width, my Adamo worked perfectly and continues to. 107/11K of elevation gain on Saturday with not much more than the usual discomfort issues from just being in riding position for that long.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:22 AM   #29035
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Depending on whether I have my saddles in the right spot or not determines whether I can sit there and spin comfortably or whether I'm all over the saddle trying to find 'that spot.'



I've come to the conclusion I just have a 'princess and the pea' ass.

...yes, I'll stop mid-ride and move my saddle and/or seatpost a mm or so to fix an issue.

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Old 05-28-2013, 11:33 AM   #29036
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...yes, I'll stop mid-ride and move my saddle and/or seatpost a mm or so to fix an issue.
That's usually on my first ride, after a break, to lower the post a bit.
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:34 AM   #29037
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That's usually on my first ride, after a break, to lower the post a bit.
Trying to get 3* bikes with different geometries to fit the same is a tough thing to do.

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* I won't talk about the 2 frames I have waiting for parts that'll just add to the issue
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Old 05-28-2013, 11:47 AM   #29038
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Here is the base of Lookout Mountain as the riders come screaming down Cummings Highway, just before the left hand corner under the railroad bridge.


Going under the bridge. This corner is very hard to shoot with a P&S camera as the riders are going so fast that most pics turn out trashed.

This photog is one brave pillion. I noticed a couple of the escort bikes had ADV stickers, including one proclaiming our official slogan, FYYFF.


Corner of Market and 7th street as the riders go through downtown.

Team car hauling ass through the corner. The mechanics must be doped up on Dramamine to make it through an event like this without hurling in the back of the cars. The team cars were carrying some serious corner speed and squealing the tires through most of the turns.




Last corner of the course before the start/finish line.






It was great to be able to watch the race on the TV in a bar (with frosty mug in hand), then step out front and see them come by just a few feet away, sprinting to the finish. What a great day of racing.
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:08 PM   #29039
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Yes, but only for a short while. The tech who put together my road bike mistakenly put on a women's saddle. Nobody noticed it until I came back complaining of extreme discomfort. It was horrible. Probably the worst of all the saddles I've tried.
It was worth a shot....
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Old 05-28-2013, 12:20 PM   #29040
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thanks for the photos fullmonte mush appreciated !

Must've been a cool scene the entire weekend.


way to go Fast Freddy !
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